Do you want crown crates gone?

Carl-lan · July 2018

No

Maybe they should allow you to buy gems, at a more expensive price. Then crown crates will be cheaper and random, gems allow you to get exactly what you want but are more expensive.

They might lose money doing that though, but really - I dunno the stats or people’s purchase behaviours, so I dunno.

kargen27 · July 2018

No

Doesn't hurt me any and generates revenue for the game.

Hurbster · July 2018

Yes

I would need to see what's in them before I buy any.

Mureel · July 2018

No

I really cannot believe all these people trying to take things from everyone else because they don't like it/gambled and lost.

More options = good.

Let people have nice things.

DanteYoda · July 2018

No

I hate crown crates...

But bare with me here, what we get in 15 crown crates would never in a million years equate to 5k crowns in the crowns store as standard items..

So no i don't like crown crates at all but they are still a cheaper option than no crown crates even if you just get consumables.

Elsonso · July 2018

Yes

Mureel wrote: »

I really cannot believe all these people trying to take things from everyone else because they don't like it/gambled and lost.

More options = good.

Let people have nice things.

There are plenty of nice things and options in the world.

Besides, Crown Crates provide no tangible gameplay value to ESO. I question whether they even provide a financial benefit to ESO. They are parasitic, and the revenue they generate could be funding ZOS Game 2 more than ESO. People will buy more Crowns if they think the money goes to ESO than if they think the money goes to Game 2, and since it isn't our business what they spend the money on, we have no idea what they do with it.

Personally, I think that most of the money ZOS brings in these days is funding production of Game 2, not ESO.

Why should I want something in the game that provides no added value to the game?

Acrolas · July 2018

No

lordrichter wrote: »

Why should I want something in the game that provides no added value to the game?

Character customization is important to a lot of people. Sometimes even more than playable content. It may not be tangible value, but you can't play a character for days and days and not get a little bit emotionally attached to him or her. That connection lasts after the last dungeon is conquered and the last town is saved.

DanteYoda wrote: »

But bare with me here, what we get in 15 crown crates would never in a million years equate to 5k crowns in the crowns store as standard items..

And yet you won't pull out a piece of paper and a pencil and itemize it all to back that up with evidence.

There are certainly diminishing returns where the gem return isn't valued as competitively as getting a brand-new item. But by then you're making a conscious decision to either stop buying crates, or commit to going until you hit a radiant apex.

Also - bear with me. Bare means something quite different.

FelixTheCatt · July 2018

Yes

Rather have the choice to get what I wanted specifically rather than a gamble.

That said , there's never been anything offered I personally thought was worth it in the crown store. Crate or otherwise. Not being snarky, it's just that its all just skins. Either cosmetic or a mount. What's the big deal about any of the mounts?

Banana · July 2018

Yes

Unless there was a crate that gave me a 100 ping and no lag.

MLGProPlayer · July 2018

No

Banana wrote: »

Unless there was a crate that gave me a 100 ping and no lag.

100 ping is laggy as ***. But that's considered "good" ping in this game (I average ~120).

Wise_Will · July 2018

No

I enjoy doing the crown crates, even if i don't get what i want for them, i usually get enough gems to buy it outright anyway. I have 0 children and a lot of expendable income, i have to spend my money on other things and not just Pizza takeaways :P

kwisatz · July 2018

No opinion

I want flashy mounts gone...

HjorrMundGandr · July 2018

No

I really don't think that crown crates should just be gone,
but I can agree that they should at least give you a mount for the crowns you spend on the 15 bundle.
I bought the Dwarven and Wild Hunt crates 15 bundles and not 1 out of 30 crates did it produce a mount. I have had more luck and more gems from watching streams on special eso events now with the monthly log in rewards than purchasing the crates.
I actually got a Psijic Mount this past weekend from the free ones from the Free Eso plus Event.
I'm not complaining/I am complaining, I got something for free but technically I paid for it if we are counting the roughly $80 I spent on crowns.

Don't get rid of them they are as much part of the game as the crown purchased Houses. If someone wants them they will buy them. But I do think that the drop rate should be at least a 1 in 15 for the 15 bundle.

KeiruNicrom · July 2018

Yes

Please get rid of crown crates. At bare minimum get rid of the consumables in said crown crates. No one wants crown pots. No one needs crown drinks. Just get rid of em. Or be the nice developers and let us direct buy all the stuff without having to RNG roll for another unnessisary currency

Korprok · July 2018

Yes

I will never ever buy a crown crate.

it's RNG loot boxes, you are not able to trade items and you are not able to extract every items into crowns, it's a really bad business practice.

personally I would spend more cash on the crown store if certain items was featured there and not in the crates.

Mr_Walker · July 2018

So don't buy them.

I still have and use my original horse, Eats. His original Argonian owner was glad to get rid of Eats Grass and Farts a Lot, and it goes just as fast as any other mount in the game.

Vaerth · July 2018

Yes

As free crates I am down to keep them but when I want to buy digital goods, well, I want what I am paying for now to gamble for it. I do not gamble in real like nor will I in a game. I do not like to "Play Games" with my money (pun intended) I like to get what I am paying for and I will determine if the received item is worthy of my earned cash lol.

That said, if they kept the Crown Store stocked up I would have blown some money on costumes and mounts already. Thankfully for my wallet, ZoS has a really bad online store. The worst I have seen actually, and I am thinking I wont be spending a dime there because the costumes I want are not there.

I look at it like a store with ONE shelf. They clear the shelf every 2 weeks and put a couple items on it. You might like one of 2 items, but the stuff you saved up for 3 months ago is now long gone. Because, every 2 weeks they clear the shelf and make more room for more (digitial) goods. lol. If they kept every crown store item they made, your know, IN the Crown store year round my wife and I would have spent some good money lol.

ktoutlaw80 · July 2018

No

I just wish the radiant apex mounts could be bought we gems. i wanted the plague horse last year and put out like 100k crowns and didn't get it.so OP i feel your pain.i don't buy much from the crates anymore this season i used some gems for a few things and paid for zero crates and last seasons was the same as it put a bad taste in my mouth.but i understand that ZOS has to make money just wish it was less shady way of doing so.

OverDream · July 2018

No

The thing is when anything rare in the game will be available through one money transaction you conduct in order to instantly obtain such rare item, then all gambling moment of the entire process of purchasing crowns and the related enthusiasm are gone and lost. What will you prefer more: to spend a considerable amount of money for gambling so that other players know you are capable of investing in the game and are goal-oriented person or just be an another player with apex or radiant mount, with all related consequences of being the SAME as all? I'm not talking right now about investing 5k crowns into somewhat item.

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If you like to be prominent, distinctive from others, there should be the way in the game to do this. Therefore, easy obtaining of rare items is not the way.

IMHO

bellatrixed · July 2018

Yes

I voted yes, but more accurately I don't really mind that crates exist--but I definitely want crate items that are NOT buyable for gems gone.

Minyassa · July 2018

Yes

Yes. I'd much, much rather pay a lot of crowns for an item that I'm guaranteed to get than have no chance to get it because I'm unlucky. It doesn't matter how many crown crates I buy, I will never get the radiant apex mount I desperately want, and that pisses me off because it's pretty much the most perfect mount for my main character that they have ever made, and I can't have it. Makes me just write off crown crates entirely, will only use free ones from now on. They'd get so much more money out of me if they'd just let me buy things instead of trying to get me to pay for the privilege of never getting them.

I don't give a flying flip about rarity or exclusivity, I want things because they are my favorite color or my favorite animal or remind me of a favorite book character or are extremely pretty...you know, things of VALUE. Exclusivity is BS. They could release a one-time-only, super rare, limited pile of walking crap that only 5 people in the game managed to get and it would still be a pile of crap.

DanteYoda · July 2018

No

Acrolas wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Why should I want something in the game that provides no added value to the game?

Character customization is important to a lot of people. Sometimes even more than playable content. It may not be tangible value, but you can't play a character for days and days and not get a little bit emotionally attached to him or her. That connection lasts after the last dungeon is conquered and the last town is saved.

DanteYoda wrote: »

But bare with me here, what we get in 15 crown crates would never in a million years equate to 5k crowns in the crowns store as standard items..

And yet you won't pull out a piece of paper and a pencil and itemize it all to back that up with evidence.

There are certainly diminishing returns where the gem return isn't valued as competitively as getting a brand-new item. But by then you're making a conscious decision to either stop buying crates, or commit to going until you hit a radiant apex.

Also - bear with me. Bare means something quite different.

I don't need to itemize anything its plain and simple what you get in 15 crown crates is vastly more than what 5k crowns on items would give..

Bare = get naked
Bear = Animal

Either works imo as long as they are sexy.

Acrolas · July 2018

No

DanteYoda wrote: »

I don't need to itemize anything its plain and simple what you get in 15 crown crates is vastly more than what 5k crowns on items would give..

My apologies. I read that as you were saying they wouldn't add up to at least 5k.

But I still invite those who feel they're getting ripped off to keep a ledger of their crate rewards and to assign crown values based around the existing crown store listings. Generally you'll have 200 to 400 crowns worth of consumables across three cards, and a superior or higher level item card that is worth at least 200 crowns.

There's a difference between getting ripped off and having unrealistic expectations. The former is empirical math, and the latter is emotional math. Knowing versus feeling.

KingofAnnwn · July 2018

No opinion

I couldn't care less TBH. No one is forced to buy them. Nothing drops that gives anyone a distinct advantage in the game. If people are annoyed with drop rates of top tier items. Then all I have to day is, welcome to the world of gambling.

inthecoconut · July 2018

Yes

Acrolas wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

I don't need to itemize anything its plain and simple what you get in 15 crown crates is vastly more than what 5k crowns on items would give..

My apologies. I read that as you were saying they wouldn't add up to at least 5k.

But I still invite those who feel they're getting ripped off to keep a ledger of their crate rewards and to assign crown values based around the existing crown store listings. Generally you'll have 200 to 400 crowns worth of consumables across three cards, and a superior or higher level item card that is worth at least 200 crowns.

There's a difference between getting ripped off and having unrealistic expectations. The former is empirical math, and the latter is emotional math. Knowing versus feeling.

I honestly think this is a moot point. What these items are worth, is entirely subjective to the one receiving them. Do you get 5k worth of items? Maybe? Probably? I don't know. The issue for me isn't whether I get 5k worth out of my crates. The issue is that I wouldn't waste 5k crowns on momentos, riding lessons, and tattoos (which can't be seen with most armor sets anyway) but this is what comprises the vast majority of loot crates.

I never open crates and think "Aw bummer, I didn't get an Apex mount, but I did walk away with 5k worth of consumables, outfits, and emotes! #worth!" And that is the issue. I think Zeni tried this season to remedy the feeling of buyers remorse by adding motifs in the lower tier, but it isn't a solution. The majority of customers are still going to buy crates with the sole intention of aiming for one or two big ticket items that are virtually inaccessible to them, and they are not placated by the 5k-worth of junk they get in return.

antoniotf5 · July 2018

Yes

I want them gone and have to actually farm, and work towards unlocking the cool mounts/items

DMuehlhausen · July 2018

No

Shadowasrial wrote: »

all I can say is I spent 60,000 crowns on the flame atro mounts trying to get a particular radiant mount and didn’t even get an apex mount. I had to settle on the normal flame wolf with gems. I think a compromise is put a higher price for crowns on the direct buying and keep the crown crates if you want to gamble and maybe get something you want and spend your gems if you didn’t

I do think all items should be available to purchase one way or another. Even that is GEMS for the Radiant mounts they should be available somehow.

Elsonso · July 2018

Yes

Acrolas wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Why should I want something in the game that provides no added value to the game?

Character customization is important to a lot of people. Sometimes even more than playable content. It may not be tangible value, but you can't play a character for days and days and not get a little bit emotionally attached to him or her. That connection lasts after the last dungeon is conquered and the last town is saved.

We are talking about Crown Crates, not character customization.

Crown Crates actually add nothing to character customizations. If anything, they insert a block to character customization by putting a random layer between you and customization you might actually want.

Believe me, if the mission was to deliver customizations to you, they could invent something much better than Crown Crates to accomplish this.

Gargath · July 2018

No

"Do you want crown crates gone?"

Why would I want that, if they are giving crates for free, so I have a chance for top tier mounts without spending a single crown. Would be utterly stupid to let them cover the free crates behind crown-only sales. I just love the actual crown crate system.

Tandor · July 2018

No

Acrolas wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

I don't need to itemize anything its plain and simple what you get in 15 crown crates is vastly more than what 5k crowns on items would give..

My apologies. I read that as you were saying they wouldn't add up to at least 5k.

But I still invite those who feel they're getting ripped off to keep a ledger of their crate rewards and to assign crown values based around the existing crown store listings. Generally you'll have 200 to 400 crowns worth of consumables across three cards, and a superior or higher level item card that is worth at least 200 crowns.

There's a difference between getting ripped off and having unrealistic expectations. The former is empirical math, and the latter is emotional math. Knowing versus feeling.

Unfortunately there are a lot of players who feel that the items are rubbish to them, and therefore of no value to anyone. They are, of course, precisely the players who should simply decide not to buy any crates, but sadly they think nobody else should be able to buy any either.