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No changes to shieldbreaker?
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
Don't forget about 5k spell damage, 60k magicka and 10k mag regen that mag sorcs have.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.8 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And how the hell can anyone defend a set that suddenly makes a terrible player a much, much bigger threat than the competent player?
Same reason anyone would defend a potion that suddenly makes a "terrible" player who uses a detection potion against my NB a much bigger threat than a "competent" player who doesn't.
Using the proper counters that fit the situation is intended gameplay. Detect pots to counter cloak. Defile to counter heals. Undodgeable abilities to counter dodge. Unblockable abilities to counter blocking.
But unshieldable damage countering shields? Sacrilege!8 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭And the problem then that just one bad player with this adding on to a fight with a competent player... Sorc has to spend half his cooldowns on defence to stay alive vs the competent player - yet now has 6 seconds to kill the bad player before he dies..
How is that possible without the free time to put together a good well-timed burst.?
And how the hell can anyone defend a set that suddenly makes a terrible player a much, much bigger threat than the competent player?
I ask you again, which good player defends Shieldbreaker (without adding a
afterwards)? I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
BohnT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
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Deep_01✭✭✭✭Shieldbreaker provides 3.5k dps just by spamming light attacks, that's more than many top duel players have in a 1v1, with all their skills!
If that was true, then it would take at least 10 seconds to kill a 30K HP player, even when the attacker is a top player facing an AFK one.
Reality check: You die from burst, not from sustained 3.5k DPS. And burst does far, FAR more than 3.5k DPS. Especially when the attacker is a sorc, who can line up curse, meteor, cage, frag and execute to hit all at the same time.
I really have to roll my eyes when i hear a sorc complain about 3.5K dps while he's blowing through 25K HP hitpoint bars in 1-2 seconds.
And how many meteors can you push? With 3.5 to 4 ult per second, it takes almost 45 seconds per meteor. Several classes, melee and ranged can burst through 25k HP when timed perfectly StamDk/den (Dizzy, DB/leap, sub assualt, DoT), fear+incap/meteor, fozzilise+leap+lash etc.
MagSorc was built around having no burst heal or active HoT, there is no opening like dark deal, BoL absorbs 1/2 of LAs, pet costs as much as mines now. How long can I CC my attacker? We don't have cloak or shade tp. How far can I run away when gap closed+LA spammed? Should I stack 30K HP and spam pet heal with and without shields?
Shieldbreaker needs a change.@Deepan on PC-EU1 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
We need more people like you.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »And the problem then that just one bad player with this adding on to a fight with a competent player... Sorc has to spend half his cooldowns on defence to stay alive vs the competent player - yet now has 6 seconds to kill the bad player before he dies..
How is that possible without the free time to put together a good well-timed burst.?
And how the hell can anyone defend a set that suddenly makes a terrible player a much, much bigger threat than the competent player?
I ask you again, which good player defends Shieldbreaker (without adding a afterwards)?
Haha - yeah, sorry - I misinterpreted your earlier post..Minalan owes me a beer.
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@Sharee
You know a magSorc that runs with 30k HP? I don't. Most run with around 20k, which conveniently just take 5.7 seconds of light attack SB spam. Healing Ward, the main heal most Sorcs use, takes 6 seconds. And that's not even taking a 1v2 or 3 into the picture.
And a competent sorc will kill someone who's just spamming light attacks in half the time.
As the pts is up atm, i'm sure you can prove what you're saying here. You'll bring a magsorc and i'll bring the build you think that's so easy to counter, deal?
Can I watch? I'll bring cookies!Minalan owes me a beer.
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
S'true - I remember arguing with him about it - but its ok now - he's finally learned that I'm always right
Minalan owes me a beer.
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Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
Then why does it affect people who doesnt stack shields? They could at least make it so that it only triggers when the enemy has 2+ shieldsIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.0 -
jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
Questionable game experience. Not that all those sorcs in PvP poop diamonds and rainbows.So ye, Bad players (and there are a lot) and players who enjoy using broken sets and destroying other players game experience."Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
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mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing I love seeing more than hypocritical sorcs crying about a set that absolutely destroys them.
The set needs no nerf at all as it's very niche and only works against a few particular builds.
Against most Templars, nightblades, DKs and Stam sorcs it's totally useless.
But noooo it works against the broken mag sorcs so pls zos change it!
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing I love seeing more than hypocritical sorcs crying about a set that absolutely destroys them.
The set needs no nerf at all as it's very niche and only works against a few particular builds.
Against most Templars, nightblades, DKs and Stam sorcs it's totally useless.
But noooo it works against the broken mag sorcs so pls zos change it!
Haha pathetic
"Listen to your player base and take in their feedback. Its been 4 years now."
Nice nice.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.4 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing I love seeing more than hypocritical sorcs crying about a set that absolutely destroys them.
The set needs no nerf at all as it's very niche and only works against a few particular builds.
Against most Templars, nightblades, DKs and Stam sorcs it's totally useless.
But noooo it works against the broken mag sorcs so pls zos change it!
Haha pathetic
Yeah a hard counter skilless set is really great game design because it only kills certain players I don't like. /s
Aren't you the NB main (strongest class in the game) who complained about wings when you have tools within your class to deal with it effectively. FTR I want reflect changed too. Magsorc however cannot deal with shieldbreaker without sacrificing their only (though bad designed) defense and cannot heal through it.
Holy ***, unless you are a a troll, L2P you tier 10 scrub.Edited by ak_pvp on July 12, 2018 1:34PMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.3 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
Then why does it affect people who doesnt stack shields? They could at least make it so that it only triggers when the enemy has 2+ shields
sorc putting 15k damage shield every second and you think this set need nerf?5 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
Dang Shields just keep getting bigger these days5 -
The-Baconator✭✭✭✭And how the hell can anyone defend a set that suddenly makes a terrible player a much, much bigger threat than the competent player?
Same reason anyone would defend a potion that suddenly makes a "terrible" player who uses a detection potion against my NB a much bigger threat than a "competent" player who doesn't.
Using the proper counters that fit the situation is intended gameplay. Detect pots to counter cloak. Defile to counter heals. Undodgeable abilities to counter dodge. Unblockable abilities to counter blocking.
But unshieldable damage countering shields? Sacrilege!
The difference for the detect pot example is unless your nightblade is a 100% gankblade you are built to use other defensive mechanics, such as strong hots, LoS, etc that can carry you even against a competent player more than long enough for their detect pot to expire. If a competent player with shield breaker that is willing to chase runs into a sorc they die, period.
As for your other examples, abilities that go through block\dodge and defile, the difference is similar to the above. On my dk I don't have to run from a single competent player and pull off a miracle when I run into a durok's sload build open world. Similarly when my stamplar gets hit by eye of skill + sap spam from an Xv1 bomb blade it forces me on the defensive, but after it's over I'm free to dawn breaker + jabs + repent and continue on with the fight as it was. Do players doing things like the above constantly keep me from pulling off wins in otherwise winnable fights? Of course, but none come close to being nearly as effective as shield breaker. Shield breaker is simply in a league of it's own when it comes to easy mode cheese that renders certain fights unwinnable regardless of the skill of players involved, which is a problem that should have been addressed a long time ago and should be addressed now along with this rune cage nonsense.First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
exactly!
well said.
nothing wrong with this set, it does not need nerfed.
this set is the answer to shield stacking sorcerers. that's what it was created to for.
all it does is damage by light attack and if you are just light attacking, then you will die against a sorc.
this set has to be used with weaving in light attacks with normal rotation in order for it to work properly against shield stacking sorcerers.
Edited by Gilvoth on July 12, 2018 3:36PM1 -
BohnT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
S'true - I remember arguing with him about it - but its ok now - he's finally learned that I'm always right
That's defenitly not true that you're always right. I was just the blind man trying to argue that yellow and orange are the same thing0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
exactly!
well said.
nothing wrong with this set, it does not need nerfed.
this set is the answer to shield stacking sorcerers. that's what it was created to for.
all it does is damage by light attack and if you are just light attacking, then you will die against a sorc.
this set has to be used with weaving in light attacks with normal rotation in order for it to work properly against shield stacking sorcerers.
Repeating this ad nauseam doesn’t make it correct.Edited by Feanor on July 12, 2018 3:43PMMain characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
S'true - I remember arguing with him about it - but its ok now - he's finally learned that I'm always right
That's defenitly not true that you're always right. I was just the blind man trying to argue that yellow and orange are the same thing
Truth is, I'm never right.. being married and all.Minalan owes me a beer.
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Sureshawt✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
exactly!
well said.
nothing wrong with this set, it does not need nerfed.
this set is the answer to shield stacking sorcerers. that's what it was created to for.
all it does is damage by light attack and if you are just light attacking, then you will die against a sorc.
this set has to be used with weaving in light attacks with normal rotation in order for it to work properly against shield stacking sorcerers.
Repeating this ad nauseam doesn’t make it correct.
This rebuttal does not make you correct either. I've used shieldbreaker against sorcs and against good ones there is still a good chance I lose.
On the other hand without it I have practically zero chance unless I'm lucky enough to land a CC just as shields are about to expire and then burst all their HP down during that tiny window. And this only works if you manage to get sorcs out of their staggering shield rotation.
The good sorcs stagger their shield casting so that at least one shield will always be up during the CC window. Also if a sorc even has one decent heal combined with judicious use of streak they remain unkillable from the puny DPS of shieldbreaker.
This whole argument is a joke for the class that sacrifices nothing in terms of their primary resource/dps pool (Magicka) that also provides one of the best mitigation defenses in the game (Shield Stack) combined with the best mobility in the game (Streak). Leaving all of their secondary pool for CC breaks.
There is a reason mag sorcs are the ONLY class that can easily face tank multiple players while killing them one by one and it has nothing to do with superior skill. (Other classes can facetank multiple players but cannot kill as easily as they have sacrificed for their tankiness unlike sorcs as covered above). Give a knowledgeable player the best overall toolkit of any class without any need to make sacrifices outside of their main resource pool to utilize all of it and this is the result.
Everyone knows sorcs are OP mode for any player with knowledge of game mechanics. People on the battlefield see and experience what they can do on a regular basis so maybe Sorcs should just be thankful they haven't been nerfed more.
Edited by Sureshawt on July 12, 2018 4:36PM5 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
S'true - I remember arguing with him about it - but its ok now - he's finally learned that I'm always right
That's defenitly not true that you're always right. I was just the blind man trying to argue that yellow and orange are the same thing
Just blame Willows Path for being bugged for using Shieldbreaker back in the days I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
The-Baconator✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
exactly!
well said.
nothing wrong with this set, it does not need nerfed.
this set is the answer to shield stacking sorcerers. that's what it was created to for.
all it does is damage by light attack and if you are just light attacking, then you will die against a sorc.
this set has to be used with weaving in light attacks with normal rotation in order for it to work properly against shield stacking sorcerers.
Repeating this ad nauseam doesn’t make it correct.
This rebuttal does not make you correct either. I've used shieldbreaker against sorcs and against good ones there is still a good chance I lose.
On the other hand without it I have practically zero chance unless I'm lucky enough to land a CC just as shields are about to expire and then burst all their HP down during that tiny window. And this only works if you manage to get sorcs out of their staggering shield rotation.
The good sorcs stagger their shield casting so that at least one shield will always be up during the CC window. Also if a sorc even has one decent heal combined with judicious use of streak they remain unkillable from the puny DPS of shieldbreaker.
This whole argument is a joke for the class that sacrifices nothing in terms of their primary resource/dps pool (Magicka) that also provides one of the best mitigation defenses in the game (Shield Stack) combined with the best mobility in the game (Streak). Leaving all of their secondary pool for CC breaks.
There is a reason mag sorcs are the ONLY class that can easily face tank multiple players while killing them one by one and it has nothing to do with superior skill. (Other classes can facetank multiple players but cannot kill as easily as they have sacrificed for their tankiness unlike sorcs as covered above). Give a knowledgeable player the best overall toolkit of any class without any need to make sacrifices outside of their main resource pool to utilize all of it and this is the result.
Everyone knows sorcs are OP mode for any player with knowledge of game mechanics. People on the battlefield see and experience what they can do on a regular basis so maybe Sorcs should just be thankful they haven't been nerfed more.
You realize as of the last year and a half most sorcs are running around with more stam recov than heavy armor stam builds because they have terrible in combat sustain and shields give mediocre survivablity when focused by half decent players? I had more max magicka before Imperial City first released in 2015 with 120 cp than I do now after nearly three years of insane power creep from item sets. Sorc is certainly good right now, and rune cage specifically needs changed, but people describing it as on some other tier beyond every other class and spec in cyrodiil atm are kidding themselves. If a sorcer kills you with anything other than a niche dueling build when you're using shield breaker you've been horrendously outplayed, and frankly I don't how you would handle yourself when enough against other classes and specs such that your only problem would be with sorc...First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
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eso_nya✭✭✭✭✭
✭I do get complains about class skills.
I never get complains over a set or weaponskill or guildskill or so.
If it is so good and such an cheese i-win-button, why dont u run it yourself than?1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »This set need no nerf, shield stacking and big shields required treatment like this
exactly!
well said.
nothing wrong with this set, it does not need nerfed.
this set is the answer to shield stacking sorcerers. that's what it was created to for.
all it does is damage by light attack and if you are just light attacking, then you will die against a sorc.
this set has to be used with weaving in light attacks with normal rotation in order for it to work properly against shield stacking sorcerers.
Repeating this ad nauseam doesn’t make it correct.
you guys keep making the same threads and expect to see different responses.1 -
BohnT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »I use this set shamelessly and without discrimination.
I also use resource poisons, have about 11% into the Siphoner CP and get hate whispers all the time for it but honestly IDGAF at this point. Everyone and their mother is an infinite sustain, instagib Overload Sorc in PvP nowadays that I really don't feel bad about any of it.
"Shieldbreaker is cheese"
So is having an unblockable, undodgable burst combo from 40m away while also having 40k shield on top of it all so f*** off with your whiney attitude.
I think None good sorc thinks that rune cage is balanced or should stay how it is.
People who say it's fine are same level idiots as people that defend shieldbreaker, zaan, defile, resource poisons sloads or stamnbs. They just don't know what the other classes look like.
I used to say the same about sorcs and shieldbreaker about 3 years ago because i was the typical stamnb assassin hero zergling. Then i switched to playing all classes and now i just call out any ***, i get called a qq cry Baby all the time by the same Kind of people all the time who only want to win or don't care about balance or have no idea how fights look from the perspective of other classes.
S'true - I remember arguing with him about it - but its ok now - he's finally learned that I'm always right
That's defenitly not true that you're always right. I was just the blind man trying to argue that yellow and orange are the same thing
Just blame Willows Path for being bugged for using Shieldbreaker back in the days
i didn't use it tbh, i just couldn't understand, like all the guys still defending it, that it's completely op
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