Charliff1966 wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »It's very simple what you can do and everyone already knows the answer:
- Stop logging in
- Stop spending money on crowns
- Cancel your ESO+ subscription
When the money stops flowing in and their board sees a dip in profits, the dev team will be yelled at to fix the issues customers are complaining about so the company execs can go back to lining their pockets. ZoS is a business - the best way to pressure a business into action is to endanger their profits. As long as continue ignoring what I've posted above, you are essentially telling ZoS that ESO is a satisfactory product with negligible issues.
Already doing that. Playing Tera atm. Will be back when ZOS gets their act together.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
The real solution is better quality control. Cyrodiil has always had quirks, but in the past 10 months ZOS has released two updates that each caused console players to have to force-close their application on a regular basis because of Infinite Load Screens (November 2017) and Permanent Freezes (June 2018)So, without shouting, without hyperbole, without insults to anyone, what is the real solution here?
I don't agree to this. Many of us have invested years into this game, and losing the craft bag is a blow which cannot be easily rectified. I have thousands of items I cannot manage without the craft bag, and the bank (which also gets hit with a 50% loss) is impossible to deal with if we cancel ESO+.Stop paying for a service that doesnt provide, stop eso+ and stop buying crowns
If you continue to do so for the "craftbag" youcre encouraging this corporate behavior and you're only apart of the problem
I don't agree to this. Many of us have invested years into this game, and losing the craft bag is a blow which cannot be easily rectified. I have thousands of items I cannot manage without the craft bag, and the bank (which also gets hit with a 50% loss) is impossible to deal with if we cancel ESO+.Stop paying for a service that doesnt provide, stop eso+ and stop buying crowns
If you continue to do so for the "craftbag" youcre encouraging this corporate behavior and you're only apart of the problem
ZoS new precisely how their craft bag could be monetized and deliberately kept the game's management system horrendously low to push toward more subscribers. It's 100% accurate to say the only benefit to ESO+ is the craft bag.
Every DLC released offers even more junk players have to store.
I truly feel sorry for new players to this game who must manage what to get rid of even if it can't be used at this second.
This isn't as simple as saying "Stop paying!", nor should we have to resort to this threat to "force" changes to the game we'd like.
No game is perfect, and while ESO does have its problems, it's not like the developers aren't actually trying to work on them.
I'd go so far as to say I'm firmly believing ESO 2.0 is in the works, since the original game literally locked the developers into a corner they cannot work with anymore.
However, they still need to manage the existing game. The patch before this, which released the hell of FPS drops, freezes, and for some, game crashes, shows they are improving the game.
It just feels like an eternity has gone by for these fixes.
I won't cancel my sub for these hiccups.
I will, however, if this ridiculous crap to stop treating me like a whale doesn't end.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
I don't agree to this. Many of us have invested years into this game, and losing the craft bag is a blow which cannot be easily rectified. I have thousands of items I cannot manage without the craft bag, and the bank (which also gets hit with a 50% loss) is impossible to deal with if we cancel ESO+.Stop paying for a service that doesnt provide, stop eso+ and stop buying crowns
If you continue to do so for the "craftbag" youcre encouraging this corporate behavior and you're only apart of the problem
ZoS new precisely how their craft bag could be monetized and deliberately kept the game's management system horrendously low to push toward more subscribers. It's 100% accurate to say the only benefit to ESO+ is the craft bag.
Every DLC released offers even more junk players have to store.
I truly feel sorry for new players to this game who must manage what to get rid of even if it can't be used at this second.
This isn't as simple as saying "Stop paying!", nor should we have to resort to this threat to "force" changes to the game we'd like.
No game is perfect, and while ESO does have its problems, it's not like the developers aren't actually trying to work on them.
I'd go so far as to say I'm firmly believing ESO 2.0 is in the works, since the original game literally locked the developers into a corner they cannot work with anymore.
However, they still need to manage the existing game. The patch before this, which released the hell of FPS drops, freezes, and for some, game crashes, shows they are improving the game.
It just feels like an eternity has gone by for these fixes.
I won't cancel my sub for these hiccups.
I will, however, if this ridiculous crap to stop treating me like a whale doesn't end.
All I can say is it's threads like this that make me smile a little, because I don't actually pay monthly for this game.
Irony...a few months ago I got a survey to the effect of "we see you haven't subbed, what else could we give you so you will?".
I filled it out dutifully, of course.
Anyways, I hope your problems are patched soon.
P.S. I haven't played a ton, but I'm happily questing away in PvE. Dungeons seem fine too.
So, the patch was useful in some ways. PvE is better than it's been in a while.
Xbox One NA
How do you know this???Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
How do you know this???Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
How do you know this???Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Probably because we really don't need an update every 3 seconds and people are just impatient. It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now. Everyone screams and yells as ZOS and while they certainly are not the best, they know a lot more than the "armchair IT people" do.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »How do you know this???Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
Power of deduction.
If it’s simple or easy, it would be fixed already. IT is not “illuminati confirmed” let’s delay something to make the forum people cry.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »How do you know this???Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
Power of deduction.
If it’s simple or easy, it would be fixed already. IT is not “illuminati confirmed” let’s delay something to make the forum people cry.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Wonder why they even bothered to go cross console anyway, just caused more problems for the game tbh
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Probably because we really don't need an update every 3 seconds and people are just impatient. It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now. Everyone screams and yells as ZOS and while they certainly are not the best, they know a lot more than the "armchair IT people" do.
It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now.Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
XoxHANNIBALxoX wrote: »I've not even received this month's eso plus crowns ffs
(yes I know I posted this in another thread already)
Apache_Kid wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Probably because we really don't need an update every 3 seconds and people are just impatient. It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now. Everyone screams and yells as ZOS and while they certainly are not the best, they know a lot more than the "armchair IT people" do.
Person is lucky enough to not have any of the game-crippling issues that others who have Xbox One X and ESO on a SSD have and instead of counting their blessings they feel the need to come in here and insult us for wanting a product that we PAID REAL MONEY FOR and a game that many of us SUBSCRIBE TO A PREMIUM SUB TIER for, to function without crashing us to the Xbox dashboard. Classic ESO message boards right here. The entitlement of not having crashes or freezes is real.
Apache_Kid wrote: »XoxHANNIBALxoX wrote: »I've not even received this month's eso plus crowns ffs
(yes I know I posted this in another thread already)
try filing a support ticket. This is one issue a support ticket will actually solve most of the time. Crowns have a habit of being late for Xbox ESO subs. Just one of the many issues I've created a thread about months ago that was completely ignored by the powers that be.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Probably because we really don't need an update every 3 seconds and people are just impatient. It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now. Everyone screams and yells as ZOS and while they certainly are not the best, they know a lot more than the "armchair IT people" do.
Person is lucky enough to not have any of the game-crippling issues that others who have Xbox One X and ESO on a SSD have and instead of counting their blessings they feel the need to come in here and insult us for wanting a product that we PAID REAL MONEY FOR and a game that many of us SUBSCRIBE TO A PREMIUM SUB TIER for, to function without crashing us to the Xbox dashboard. Classic ESO message boards right here. The entitlement of not having crashes or freezes is real.
I hate to say it, but switching from Xbox one to PS4 was a smart move for me.
After three, yes three Xbox Ones. I got sick of it.
ESO generally runs smooth in PS4, outside of lag/Cyrodiil load screens and the legions of clowns that duel in populated areas.
XoxHANNIBALxoX wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XoxHANNIBALxoX wrote: »I've not even received this month's eso plus crowns ffs
(yes I know I posted this in another thread already)
try filing a support ticket. This is one issue a support ticket will actually solve most of the time. Crowns have a habit of being late for Xbox ESO subs. Just one of the many issues I've created a thread about months ago that was completely ignored by the powers that be.
Yeah I posted a support ticket earlier but auto reply said the office was closed for the day lol
Apache_Kid wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Easy there, killer.
They’re working on it. This is more complex than most of you armchair MMO/IT specialists realize.
They've been "working on it" for years, that's what you white knights don't seem to get
Yes, they have been working on it.
Did you ever stop to think that with three unique platforms and limited staff...these issues may take some time?
I want things fixed and perfect just like everyone else. This game has evolved so much over the years. They’ve delivered on many things already.
Let’s give them some credit and let them work their magic.
Communication would be nice! How about they tell us they don’t know what the problem is instead of telling us last week they would be fixing it?
Probably because we really don't need an update every 3 seconds and people are just impatient. It's funny, I have 0 lag, 0 difficulties on Xbox One X right now. Everyone screams and yells as ZOS and while they certainly are not the best, they know a lot more than the "armchair IT people" do.
Person is lucky enough to not have any of the game-crippling issues that others who have Xbox One X and ESO on a SSD have and instead of counting their blessings they feel the need to come in here and insult us for wanting a product that we PAID REAL MONEY FOR and a game that many of us SUBSCRIBE TO A PREMIUM SUB TIER for, to function without crashing us to the Xbox dashboard. Classic ESO message boards right here. The entitlement of not having crashes or freezes is real.
I hate to say it, but switching from Xbox one to PS4 was a smart move for me.
After three, yes three Xbox Ones. I got sick of it.
ESO generally runs smooth in PS4, outside of lag/Cyrodiil load screens and the legions of clowns that duel in populated areas.
I see plenty of threads and posts from PlayStation people having issues too. I'm not switching a 1000+ cp account with All dungeon achievements done, many trial achievements and millions upon millions in gold and crafting materials. I'd sooner quit the game than re-grind all that. The game isn't THAT good. Maybe if I had some sort of guarantee that I would be free from issues on PS but I really can't get that.
Now if ZoS want's to do the right thing and offer to transfer my account then we can have the discussion. But like I said there are Xbox players that swear they aren't having issues either with some PS players that are. I think its just a total crap-shoot when you play on console.