Did anyone else notice the new combat sound effect?

Carbonised · May 2018

For pity's sake, whose great idea was it to add in a gong sound effect or bell dinging or whatever the hell it is every time you initiate combat.

Do you even realise how many times people engage in combat, in dungeons or overland content or wheverever?

What is this, some kind of lousy parody on a street fighter match? "3 - 2 - 1 - *bell dings* FIGHT!"

I thought this was an RPG and not a boxing simulator. It's bad enough that we have to put up with the soundtrack being interrupted and turned into combat music every time you engage as much as a skeever, but we're only a single day into the new update, and already I'm incredibly annoyed at that stupid gong sound.

Guess it's another reason to turn off sound and music completely, and put on something on your own instead, but adding stupid comic book sounds like that wasn't really a great idea methinks.

Turelus · May 2018

Is that what causes it? I kept hearing a sound and couldn't figure it out.

I was trying to figure out if it was a set or skill proc notification they added. If it really is every time you enter combat then yeah, that needs to go away or become a toggle because it's really cheesy.

Vaoh · May 2018

On console - please post vid. I’m curious how bad this is lol

Carbonised · May 2018

Turelus wrote: »

Is that what causes it? I kept hearing a sound and couldn't figure it out.

I was trying to figure out if it was a set or skill proc notification they added. If it really is every time you enter combat then yeah, that needs to go away or become a toggle because it's really cheesy.

First I didn't realise where it was from either, I play with the music and sound on to try and enjoy the Brad Derrick soundtrack, but I noticed that awful ding going on every time I entered combat, so I started paying better attention, and yes, it's definitely something new that plays each and every time you enter combat.

Tried to look under audio in the settings as well for an option to turn it off, but there weren't any.

And now that I notice it, I can't un-hear it. So like I said, only option I can see is to turn off the audio completely and just play something on your own =(

Auros · May 2018

Alcast said in his vids on the PTS: we need addon to remove it ...

Grendel_at_ESO · May 2018

If it's happening I have not noticed it so it can't be that intrusive.

Turelus · May 2018

Auros wrote: »

Alcast said in his vids on the PTS: we need addon to remove it ...

Can add-ons remove specific sound effects? I would have thought that was outside what the API can do.

Hopefully ZOS notice and give us a toggle at least.

Carbonised · May 2018

Grendel_at_ESO wrote: »

If it's happening I have not noticed it so it can't be that intrusive.

Plenty of people have already noticed it, as documented by the posts above yours. Classic fallacy of "if it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to anyone".

Vapirko · May 2018

Is it the vMA chime? That’s what I’ve kept hearing in PvP. No idea why.

Beardimus · May 2018

Wonder of they trying to better denote when combat starts and ends. Maybe to help with the not being able to mount problems as ur in combat and don't realise.

Turelus · May 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

Wonder of they trying to better denote when combat starts and ends. Maybe to help with the not being able to mount problems as ur in combat and don't realise.

There are simpler ways to do this like the add-on which just made the boarder of the compass red. Sound effects are too intrusive and immersion breaking IMO.

Saturnana · May 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Was this intentional?
And if it is, can we please have an option/toggle to turn this off again?
Because like others mentioned, it's really very annoying.

Carbonised · May 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

Wonder of they trying to better denote when combat starts and ends. Maybe to help with the not being able to mount problems as ur in combat and don't realise.

There isn't any sound when combat ends, so I really doubt that's the reason why.

More likely, they're trying to appeal to a demographic that prefers "fast paced content" and "fun and engaging gameplay" such as this. Hence my ironic reference to Street Fighter and boxing games.

I think they forget that some of us decided to play ESO exactly because of the aesthetics that stayed true to more realistic RPG games, instead of over the top visuals and sound effects.

Along with crown store ads, level up rewards with forced, phoney clapping and daily login rewards, the game is becoming cheaper and cheaper by every update.

Left4Daud · May 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Is it the vMA chime? That’s what I’ve kept hearing in PvP. No idea why.

A week ago I had this happen to me in a random dungeon. At first I didn’t recognize where it was from but sure enough it was a vMA sound bite that kept playing around combat.

Dolnor · May 2018

I'll check to see if I can reproduce the sound and locate the source. If I can, I'll video capture it and post it to YouTube...and provide a link here for Devs/Players to see.

TQQdles™,

Dolnor Numbwit
Eternal Testing Newbie
Member, The Older Gamers (TOG)

Fischblut · May 2018

Is it the vMA chime? That’s what I’ve kept hearing in PvP. No idea why.

It is caused by set Jorvuld's Guidance - if somebody has it only one bar (or has it on weapons), when weapon swapping it will play this funny sound each time

Funniest run was when tank in random nMoL pug had it and was weapon swapping unnecessary many times just to annoy us all

ArchMikem · May 2018

We asked for the battle music to be given a toggle, so we didnt need to hear it all the time, and instead they just went and made it more annoying?

Grendel_at_ESO · May 2018

Carbonised wrote: »

Grendel_at_ESO wrote: »

If it's happening I have not noticed it so it can't be that intrusive.

Plenty of people have already noticed it, as documented by the posts above yours. Classic fallacy of "if it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to anyone".

Maybe you need to learn how to read.

maltinkilic · May 2018

Honestly, I loved the new combat music. It's old combat music plus drums and gongs.

Carbonised · May 2018

maltinkilic wrote: »

Honestly, I loved the new combat music. It's old combat music plus drums and gongs.

Except this thread isn't complaining about the combat music, it's about the annoying bell ding that goes off every time combat initiates.

Mureel · May 2018

Fischblut wrote: »

Is it the vMA chime? That’s what I’ve kept hearing in PvP. No idea why.

It is caused by set Jorvuld's Guidance - if somebody has it only one bar (or has it on weapons), when weapon swapping it will play this funny sound each time Funniest run was when tank in random nMoL pug had it and was weapon swapping unnecessary many times just to annoy us all

I have it both bar and when I port it happens every time too.

Mureel · May 2018

Carbonised wrote: »

maltinkilic wrote: »

Honestly, I loved the new combat music. It's old combat music plus drums and gongs.

Except this thread isn't complaining about the combat music, it's about the annoying bell ding that goes off every time combat initiates.

After maint I will listen for it....

Vaoh · May 2018

Auros wrote: »

Alcast said in his vids on the PTS: we need addon to remove it ...

Wait what? Nooooooooooooooo no no. No way. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Don’t you dare solve an issue like this with an ADD-ON. Console players don’t have add-ons to save us from something like this. Fix the actual issue and there will be no need for an add-on.

LadyDestiny · May 2018

Please nooooooo! It's a pain enough trying to adjust annoying sounds. I hate games that add stuff like this and you can't get away from it.

ZOS_BillMueller · May 2018

Hey guys!

Just a note, we have NOT added anything to the start of combat, so if players are experiencing some sort of bell ring when they engage combat, this would definitely be a bug and we want to look into it. Internally, everything seems to be fine so any more info you can give that can help us track it down would be a HUGE help. We need to set up the same sort of test cases so we can figure out what is happening.

Any chance you can grab a video and upload it somewhere so we can hear this sound which will help us track it down?
Are you wearing a certain item set that might be setting off a proc? Is it every single time you log in, or did it fix itself after logging out? Do you have any add-ons installed that might change audio?

Also, as far as the Jorvuld's Guidance set, we will look into that as well, maybe make it less annoying sounding

Thanks for any info you can provide, we will look into this as soon as we can!

-Bill Mueller
Senior Sound Designer

Turelus · May 2018

I've had "a sound" whether or not it's the one Carbonised has or not I can't say.

DPS testing on 3m Argonian Skeleton.
Nightblade, Dunmer, Magicka Build
Sets: Valkyn Skoria, Master Architect, Mechanical Acuity, Maelstrom Inferno Staff
Skill set-up LINK

At first I thought it might be a notification something is ready (ultimate on back bar) or a proc being ready (Merciless Resolve) but I didn't notice those being ready every time I heard it. It would happen sometimes at the start or randomly in the combat tests.

bellatrixed · May 2018

I listened carefully for this sound yesterday on multiple characters and never heard it.

Lokryn · May 2018

Probably an addon.

Dolgubon · May 2018

Turelus wrote: »

Auros wrote: »

Alcast said in his vids on the PTS: we need addon to remove it ...

Can add-ons remove specific sound effects? I would have thought that was outside what the API can do.

Hopefully ZOS notice and give us a toggle at least.

Yes, add-ons can remove specific sound effects, with the caveat that they must be sound effects originating from the UI. For this, there's a small chance it could be removed, but rather unlikely.

xaraan · May 2018

I have heard a ding when swapping skills around on a bar and flipping the bar and such, but haven't pinpointed what is the cause. I'll keep watching, but it definitely seems skill related.

PlagueSD · May 2018

Lokryn wrote: »

Probably an addon.

Yep, I use Action Duration Reminder and it notifies me by sound when a timer expires. I noticed the sound changed after summerset. (I assume because ZOS added some additional effects and that threw off the sound index).

I haven't noticed any other strange sounds at the start of combat.