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Twitch crown crates?

  • WarMasterCyp
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    I agree, ZoS is getting desperate but if you ask me they need to do a better job making quality games rather than trying to get people to stream it or buy stuff through twitch...
  • AlienSlof
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    This gamble crate obsession is beyond ridiculous.
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  • craftycarper73
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    The sooner legislation is made to make these things illegal the better.


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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Just how John Goodman said in the latest Roseanne episode

    "What's the world coming to where you need money to get free stuff"
  • Aliyavana
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Just stream it on your phone, mute it, and then pretend it's not there. Essentially free crates

    Not all people have unlimited phone service tbh, this is just a bad move on ZoS, this is just another korean mmo move

    You act like only bad games add twitch drops

    I don't mind the ones that actually do it right when you just need to login once to click yes, but the ones that make you literally watch it 24/7 no thanks.

    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Just stream it on your phone, mute it, and then pretend it's not there. Essentially free crates

    Not all people have unlimited phone service tbh, this is just a bad move on ZoS, this is just another korean mmo move

    You act like only bad games add twitch drops

    I don't mind the ones that actually do it right when you just need to login once to click yes, but the ones that make you literally watch it 24/7 no thanks.

    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates

    No one is forcing you yes, but its still a bad move on marketing tbh to only allow certain give away's at very specific times.
  • akl77
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    It’s awesome, finally you come up with another great idea ZOS .
    For those who are max cp and bored of the gameplay, watching other players on twitch might just get you interested again.
    It’s how one inspire another.
    Pc na
  • yodased
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Just stream it on your phone, mute it, and then pretend it's not there. Essentially free crates

    Not all people have unlimited phone service tbh, this is just a bad move on ZoS, this is just another korean mmo move

    You act like only bad games add twitch drops

    I don't mind the ones that actually do it right when you just need to login once to click yes, but the ones that make you literally watch it 24/7 no thanks.

    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates

    And after the middle of june, you may be be sent to the slow lane of the internet and have to pay to get back to your typical speed.

    So the scheme of getting free virtual currency may well cost you a lot of IRL currency (if u live in the u.s.)
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Minyassa
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    My ESO account is already linked to Steam and even that was too much dependence for my taste. What's next, Facebook-exclusive crown crates? Because Facebook tries to get everything under the sun to make me link to it already. Or Google. I mean honestly, this linking stuff is getting out of hand. Whatever happened to just giving people a URL to follow? Maybe I don't want everything on my internets to be intimately connected with everything else there.

    And that's not even getting into how horribly frustrating I find it to watch other people play video games instead of playing them myself, I mean I've left friends' houses for that BS before...
  • Stewart1874
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    I'd rather watch ads to earn points to purchase crown crates.

    Sigh. Apathy is fast creeping in.
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  • Transairion
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    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates

    This is kind of the whole problem with having a "rewarding Twitch experience"... it just gets exploited for the rewards: Elder Scrolls Legends (Card game) has this system as well, and yes as suggested multiple times already players just keep Twitch tabs open in the background and ignore them while letting free rewards roll in.

    ... I'm really not sure why it's being integrated here, when the vast majority aren't even watching the content in ESL. Does Twitch still get $ for AFK viewers or something?


    Also the Crate rewards are literally "consumables" + an ultra rare mount + an ultra rare pet. I guess people will be gaining ~4 gems a crate at best. Playing the slots in real life would probably be more fun.
    Edited by Transairion on May 16, 2018 3:49PM
  • ManwithBeard9
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    dsalter wrote: »
    so... you want me? the user. to go off onto another site, to watch someone else play the game instead of contributing to the games current population and not participate in the game or possibly using the crown store so i can go watch twitch... for free stuff...?
    do you not see the problem with that?
    if someone dedicates more time to free stuff from twitch they arent playing the game, lowering the amount of people currently playing and risking selling crowns to said players because why play if you want us to watch?

    Most of the time when I'm in game, I have Twitch and or Mixer open watching/listening to streams. I found a fun PVE guild because of watching streams. That guild has actually ENCOURAGED me to try to actually play more of the game, to get into dungeons, to start getting ready for trials. To actually pvp for more than 15 minutes. Anyone with 2 monitors can easily play the game, watch a stream, and even get into content the streamer is doing with a group.
  • MissBizz
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    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates

    This is kind of the whole problem with having a "rewarding Twitch experience"... it just gets exploited for the rewards: Elder Scrolls Legends (Card game) has this system as well, and yes as suggested multiple times already players just keep Twitch tabs open in the background and ignore them while letting free rewards roll in.

    ... I'm really not sure why it's being integrated here, when the vast majority aren't even watching the content in ESL. Does Twitch still get $ for AFK viewers or something?


    Also the Crate rewards are literally "consumables" + an ultra rare mount + an ultra rare pet. I guess people will be gaining ~4 gems a crate at best. Playing the slots in real life would probably be more fun.

    If there are ads - twitch makes money.
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  • Turelus
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    Turelus wrote: »
    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    I already play 8 hrs a day. No way I’m gonna start watching eso on twitch for a “chance” to “win” a specific crown crate. No thanks.

    If they really feel this is going to boost their twitch viewers, and have people buy crowns through twitch, I’m sorry but I believe they’re sadly mistaken.

    Also, only making these “winnable” isn’t helping. People should get 1 for each stream at least.

    The whole concept is just ridiculous.
    Open a stream in a browser tab, mute the browser tab (not the stream), it thinks you're watching, go about your day playing ESO.
    Unless some how this doesn't work?

    Ajaxduo wrote: »
    As a Twitch regular I like the sound of this. Plus at the end of the day it’s just cosmetics.
    Sadly cosmetics are a big part of what people enjoy about games and more and more of them are being moved to requiring money or doing tasks which are not actually playing the game. :tongue:

    I have to ask Turelus and no offense...but is crying about the business model incessantly like a prerequisite of being a Community Ambassador? I ask because it seems to me like that is yours and Santies MO (Well that and getting death threats in game by paws members for the high crime of riding a Legendary apex mount) Not trying to be inflammatory here...it's a serious question, because Ambassador means representative....and very little you say represents me or anyone in my guild for that matter.
    Ambassadors are ambassadors because they're recognised for being helpful members of the community. We can also take community issues to the community team a little faster, however our opinions are always our own.

    For example im normally called a ZOS endorsed troll, ZOS paid White Knight etc. because I debate with people in defence of ZOS.

    I just speak my opinions on issues as I always have done. I don't claim to represent anyone else's view unless they've expressed that to me.

    IB4 someone links a quote of me where I did that at some point.
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  • MinuitPro
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    "What's the world coming to where you need money to get free stuff"

    Kind of like how the only people I know that got Worm Cult books during the event are those with 8 digit bank accounts (in-game) and could just buy chapters without a sweat?
  • Aebaradath
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    No one is forcing you to watch it 24/7, I personally am gonna open a twitch tab of streamers and have it muted for free crates

    This is kind of the whole problem with having a "rewarding Twitch experience"... it just gets exploited for the rewards: Elder Scrolls Legends (Card game) has this system as well, and yes as suggested multiple times already players just keep Twitch tabs open in the background and ignore them while letting free rewards roll in.

    ... I'm really not sure why it's being integrated here, when the vast majority aren't even watching the content in ESL. Does Twitch still get $ for AFK viewers or something?


    Also the Crate rewards are literally "consumables" + an ultra rare mount + an ultra rare pet. I guess people will be gaining ~4 gems a crate at best. Playing the slots in real life would probably be more fun.

    If there are ads - twitch makes money.
    There's uBlock Origin available on like all browsers. So good luck.
    Edited by Aebaradath on May 16, 2018 3:57PM
  • colepoz
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    So I bought the game, then bought morrowind and the gold edition before getting plus. I also preordered summerset. Then I got my wife the preorder and plus. That's $40/month for me now. Then I see this and get a twitch account only to find out that us console users get neglected yet again. Can we please get something first for once? Is that too much to ask? We also need morrowind fixed on xbox and the unholy chat issues. When I group it shouldn't change my chat channel and kill all chats when I try to change back. Where's our love?
  • White wabbit
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    Don't know why they don't just switch the console servers off since it's clear they hate us
  • Apache_Kid
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    colepoz wrote: »
    So I bought the game, then bought morrowind and the gold edition before getting plus. I also preordered summerset. Then I got my wife the preorder and plus. That's $40/month for me now. Then I see this and get a twitch account only to find out that us console users get neglected yet again. Can we please get something first for once? Is that too much to ask? We also need morrowind fixed on xbox and the unholy chat issues. When I group it shouldn't change my chat channel and kill all chats when I try to change back. Where's our love?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/412515/will-xbox-voice-chat-be-fixed-in-summerset#latest

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  • TequilaFire
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    Waiting for free crown crate code scratch off on my McDonald's french fry container. :D
  • yodased
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    Why wouldnt twitch do this? It costs nothing and increases time on site, whoch increases metrics, which increases amazon stock prices.

    The more people using twitch at any time, active or not, if that is on an upward trend, amazon is profiting
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    The sooner legislation is made to make these things illegal the better.


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    Would not hold my breath for the U.S. even if it's called gambling now it's legal

    Laughed my [removed profanity] when I read the ruling.
    Edited by ZOS_JesC on May 16, 2018 5:10PM
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  • Turelus
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    Waiting for free crown crate code scratch off on my McDonald's french fry container. :D
    Then we can complain they encourage gambling AND unhealthy eating! :tongue:
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    Interesting ..maybe.
  • Sturmfaenger
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    Want me to spend money? Let me buy more housing space to decorate my homes.
    Will watch ESO live when its interesting.
    Won't do twitch crown crates.
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  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Waiting for free crown crate code scratch off on my McDonald's french fry container. :D
    Then we can complain they encourage gambling AND unhealthy eating! :tongue:

    You can take my scrtach off tickets and my big macs from me when you pry them from my cold dead hands......(granted I died from a massive stroke because my arteries have the consistency of paste :-P) Merica! :smiley:
    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on May 16, 2018 4:20PM
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  • Voxicity
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    Pretty pathetic :D

    I hate this obsession of linking accounts
    Edited by Voxicity on May 16, 2018 4:35PM
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    MinuitPro wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    "What's the world coming to where you need money to get free stuff"

    Kind of like how the only people I know that got Worm Cult books during the event are those with 8 digit bank accounts (in-game) and could just buy chapters without a sweat?

    True but you didn't need money to get the free boxes did you, even f2p obtained those boxes during the event
  • ThinkerOfThings
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    Will Twitch Crown Crates be available to console players in the future?
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  • Taysa
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    ESO streams aren't even that popular unless you're partnered on Twitch, so I'm not sure what ZoS is trying to accomplish here.
    5/24/18: The day ZoS suspended my forum account for trolling a troll.
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