Due to racial imbalance, high elf is the most popular race by far, followed by dark elf

KanedaSyndrome · May 2018

Just gonna leave this here:
Earlier Suggestion By Me

In summary, I agree 100% with you.

TonyRockaroni · May 2018

I would wager a looot of High Elf players came to ESO after Ion Hazzikostas said they won't be made playable in WoW. :P

Jayman1000 · May 2018

Imbalance imsmalanche. Dude, High Elves are most popular because they are superior race, born to rule. Less popular races are so exactly for that reason: they are lesser. Of course, who wouldn't like to be amazing supreme High Elf? So naturally the most supreme and awesome race is the most popular.

And the reason you have killed the most High Elves is because your character is a racist Im sure. It cannot accept the fact that a race can be greater than itself, so of course it becomes hateful and seeks revenge primarily targeting high elves. So your numbers become so skewed that not even the High Elf master combat skills can compensate for it. It's sad.

rfennell_ESO · May 2018

Benemime wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

Benemime wrote: »

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Those achievements in now way depict how popular a race is. Yes high elf is presumably the most populated, but I don't see nearly as many dark elves as I do redguards.

That's just in PvP as well and a lot of people are dead set against PvP at all.

Race isn't crucial unless you're a min/max person. My sorcerer used to be a wood elf before race changed and honestly I did not notice a huge spike in dps or my ability to kill players in PvP. This was a magicka build and wood elf doesn't help magicka at all with passives.

Well, so why don't u roll back to wood elf than since it doesn't matter? Lol.

Duh! Because it doesn't matter, why bother rolling back???

Except that it DOES matter. 9% magicka recovery, elemental damage, 10% max magicka DOES matter a lot. I asked but I was being sarcastic, not expecting people to actually come with bullsh__. As others already stated and backed me up, it's a huge boost.

If the 9% magicka recovery, 10% max magicka and 4% elemental damage isn't enough to skew things.... the fact that they feature as the lead race of the ALDMERI DOMINION and are the truest elven styled race (you can make an argument for bosmer as well with this) and elven races in rpg are always popular.

But in reality, except for nords... all the races have a niche.

Odnoc · May 2018

Benemime wrote: »

It's frustrating playing with magicka character knowing that you are very behind if you are not playing with a high elf, so, because of that, we see a lot of high elves filling every alliance, high elf in daggerfall covenant, ebonheart, etc.

I was checking my achievements and noticed something that I already suspected: high elves are the most popular race (and they don't even look that good?)

Under the "Player VS Player" achievement section, I was checking numbers for every race (the race slayer achievement, kill X players from a specific race), here are my numbers:

1st: 54 high elves already killed
2nd: 46 - dark elf
3rd: 31 - wood elf
4th: 24 - nord
5th: 23 - redguard
6th: 15 - Breton
7/8th: 14/14 - khajits and orcs
9th: 13 - argonians
10th: 9 - imperials

Why exactly is it frustrating? I've always played a dark elf in Elder Scrolls games, including ESO, I have zero frustrations about it, I actually enjoy it.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2018

dazee wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

dazee wrote: »

Just buff bretons already to put them on par with altmer for damage.

But why? Breton's are the defense mages in elder scrolls lore, high elfs are always more offensive.

And if an extra 4% elemental damage kills your build, you need to look at your build.

Maybe don't buff their damage then, just buff their spell resist? or the cost discount trait. 3% is almost nothing.

It is not and most of the time in Pve it is better then high elfs 9% Regen and only slightly behind the argonian pot passive.

Odnoc · May 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

Like i said racial bonuses ruined ESO at least in creating characters.. Very annoying..

Needs a balance overhaul.

Knowledge wrote: »

People love elves. A lot of players, believe it or not, just choose race based on appearance. I doubt the majority of the player base is concerned with min maxing.

Most people will go for 5%-10% more damage out of a character over looks.. no matter what..

I know maybe one person that would do that, I would hardly say "most". The casual player is the norm for MMO's now, not min-maxers, so not sure where you are getting your numbers from.

Rawkan · May 2018

Not really an imbalance, elves are simply superior.

NyassaV · May 2018

High elves are the most killed because of a lot high elf characters are for PvE and not for PvP. So a fair amount of them probably don't wear much Impen

Sinolai · May 2018

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Those achievements in now way depict how popular a race is. Yes high elf is presumably the most populated, but I don't see nearly as many dark elves as I do redguards.

That's just in PvP as well and a lot of people are dead set against PvP at all.

Race isn't crucial unless you're a min/max person. My sorcerer used to be a wood elf before race changed and honestly I did not notice a huge spike in dps or my ability to kill players in PvP. This was a magicka build and wood elf doesn't help magicka at all with passives.

not so long ago ZOS published some game statistics. Among them was the most popular race: High elf, which I think was 34% of all characters created.

hakan · May 2018

i accidentally made a beautiful bosmer warden when i came back to game. but since my main was stamblade for 2 years i actually want to change my stamblade from dunmer to same bosmer. on the other hand both chars being same looking bosmer would be lame i guess.

i dunno why i made her dunmer in first place. maybe i thought someday i would try magblade.

or naryu

Icy_Waffles · May 2018

Um. A race could be ahead by .05% dps and people wpuld choose it. Hardly imbalanced.

Tonturri · May 2018

Icy_Waffles wrote: »

Um. A race could be ahead by .05% dps and people wpuld choose it. Hardly imbalanced.

The issue is that the difference is far, faaaar more than 0.05%.

I would like to be able to play a Bosmer magwarden without feeling like I'm gimping myself. With the way the racials are implemented - % bonuses instead of flat - a magicka character gains much more from percentage bonuses aimed at max mag and magicka regen than it does from bonuses that benefit stamina. I'd be happy if I just benefitted from my racials as much as characters who fit their race to their build do, instead of getting effectively zero benefit.

notimetocare · May 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

"very behind"?

Altmer/dunmer/breton have like 5k+ more max magicka than any other race. Altmer and dunmer also have extra elemental damage.

That gives them a huge boost over other races. 5k magicka is the equivalent of 475 spell damage. Then you have have the 2-7% boost to elemental damage, which also substantially increases DPS.

The differences between the races are massive. The same applies to stamina, of course.

Bad at math, eh? 5k more requires a 50k pool to begin with... If you have 50k magicka there is no content you cant complete. So what is the issue really?

Troneon · May 2018

Actually Argonian are the new master race.

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themaddaedra · May 2018

Balance dis, balance that, balance them, balance us, balance here, balance there, balance, balance, bala...

Thinking of magicka players... NBs mostly go Dunmer, healers mostly go Argonian, DKs go Dunmer(not that they really exist these days lol)... Oh Sorcs are Altmer, dang!

Seriously, like really, this community needs to stop complaining about non-existent problems. Quality getting lower and lower by day.

dazee · May 2018

GoodFella146 wrote: »

Princess_Ciri wrote: »

It's always been a fact of the elder scrolls lore than High Elves are the best race. Complaining about it won't change what's true.

Someone who gets it

Nope High elves are just the biggest ***. They're best at that I'll admit. If high elves were all that they'd still have men enslaved. But they couldn't even keep their slaves in line.

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DanteYoda · May 2018

Grendel_at_ESO wrote: »

Why would anyone pick a race because of how it looks? Other than tails on lizards and cats they all look the same from behind.

Totally disagree.. I have 7 characters and they all look different..

Skander · May 2018

Argonians are the best race at the moment for everything but pve DD

Ximinetto · May 2018

I have a nord magicka nightblade,it is my main, why nord? why magicka? why nightblade?

Easy,as a magblade i use siphoning skill tree,for that i need light armor so full points to magicka,nord for the health regen passives and extra defense. I plan to be a defensive mage with self survivality.

Rawkan · May 2018

High elves are simply superior. It's that simple.

Grendel_at_ESO · May 2018

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Grendel_at_ESO wrote: »

Why would anyone pick a race because of how it looks? Other than tails on lizards and cats they all look the same from behind.

Someone's fun at parties.

No I just don't find aesthetics to be a worthwile reason to pick a race over stats since I don't sit there staring at my characters and other than the log in screen I only ever see their backs when I'm playing.

maboleth · May 2018

Skander wrote: »

Argonians are the best race at the moment for everything but pve DD

Well, they do clean floors in Auridon rather nicely, I'll give you that.

Banana · May 2018

Maybe. But I dont want to look like one.

Heimpai · May 2018

My stamblade is Imperial, my magblade is high elf..

Usually i love elves but in TES i prefer Imperials..idk if I’ll stick with magic in this game

Mayrael · May 2018

Benemime wrote: »

It's frustrating playing with magicka character knowing that you are very behind if you are not playing with a high elf, so, because of that, we see a lot of high elves filling every alliance, high elf in daggerfall covenant, ebonheart, etc.

I was checking my achievements and noticed something that I already suspected: high elves are the most popular race (and they don't even look that good?)

Under the "Player VS Player" achievement section, I was checking numbers for every race (the race slayer achievement, kill X players from a specific race), here are my numbers:

1st: 54 high elves already killed
2nd: 46 - dark elf
3rd: 31 - wood elf
4th: 24 - nord
5th: 23 - redguard
6th: 15 - Breton
7/8th: 14/14 - khajits and orcs
9th: 13 - argonians
10th: 9 - imperials

You know that this is "frag counter", this can also mean that this race is easiest to kill or that magicka classes are easier to kill

also PvP != PvE. On top of that it can be affected by which alliance you play (no, adventurer's pack isn't owned by 100% of player base). In other words your numbers are not representative, as an example I can list races of my 15 toons (10 of them at max lvl):
4 redguars
3 altmers
3 bretons
2 bosmers
2 dunmers
1 khajiit

The only ones who can tell us, which race is the most popular are the devs, because even if you'd do a survey here, it would only represent fraction of player base who uses forums and wanted to vote.

Neyane · May 2018

I see more redguards than I do dark elves and more argonians than I see nords.