Jumping does not in any way dodge anything. So no.

No, leave jump alone .

You know those 'nerf snipe' posts that pop up once in a while? Started by jumpers. You know the people that reply in those nerf snipe threads and say "wha?!" People in groups who run around non-stop while waiting to move out.

If anything, nerf running around.

Dragonnord wrote: »

I agree. Jumping is a physical effort made by the character, so it should consume stamina.
 

So does drawing back a bow or swing around a giant sword or even just walking around in plate armor. Sometimes decisions need to be made on how it affects gameplay, not if it's realistic or not, especially in a fantasy game.

OdinForge wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Even if jumping provides no actual benefit, i am in favor of making jumping cost stamina simply to stop that annoying jumping prick behavior you can see all over cyrodiil nowadays.

This logic is LOL worthy.
I will continue to jump free of stamina cost knowing you're out there.

I in fact will jump twice as much as normal if I possibly can this evening just because it annoys that guy and as a sign of my support of your position on such.

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

Jumping does not negate AoEs.
Jumping does not "dodge" attacks.

Provide visual proof that it does, and then your claims are valid. Not, "oh I saw it!"

Actual proof.

Is this a troll thread? It has to be. There's no way grown adults are bothered by jumping in a game that affects nothing but personal aim enough to have this discussion.

Everything inside of me just can't accept this is a real discussion. It's not about balance, or actual combat mechanics, or even lore...it's an aggressive stance against...jumping????

Edit:

Hey, this is same person that started a goodbye thread back in November. Welcome back! XD

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380474/game-over

Jumping negates AOE. Not sure about it will dodge attacks completely.

PROVE IT.

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

Jumping does not negate AoEs.
Jumping does not "dodge" attacks.

Provide visual proof that it does, and then your claims are valid. Not, "oh I saw it!"

Actual proof.

Is this a troll thread? It has to be. There's no way grown adults are bothered by jumping in a game that affects nothing but personal aim enough to have this discussion.

Everything inside of me just can't accept this is a real discussion. It's not about balance, or actual combat mechanics, or even lore...it's an aggressive stance against...jumping????

Edit:

Hey, this is same person that started a goodbye thread back in November. Welcome back! XD

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380474/game-over

Jumping negates AOE. Not sure about it will dodge attacks completely.

Jumping does NOT negate AOE.

Sparr0w wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Sparr0w wrote: »

No. nononononononononono.

whys that then?

Sustains already a pile of crap, no need to make it worse. Also if you're aiming at someone jumping and not at the floor you'll still hit them.

If it's the 'well they jumped out of my ground AoE' argument:

1. Why use ground AoE's in PvP anyway? Just use a DoT that they can't walk out of.
2. They could just walk out of it, so by the same argument walking should cost stamina, the same as crouching & running.

EDIT: think I read that jumping ignores LoS (need to be aiming at the enemy on casting and also releasing a skill) so it's an offensive tactic over a defensive one.

That is correct. Being in midair gives you 360 los. You can attack someone who is behind you while you move forward, provides they are in range. It also helps prevent a walkthrough causing your attacks to fail.

The downside of jumping is that you cannot initiate a dodgeroll or a break free in mid air - you must be on the ground in order to dodge or break free.

RedJoker wrote: »

Why stop at jumping? Tea bagging should cost stamina as well - lol.

Crouching does cost stamina ... at least if you move while you do it.

Why are people talking about physiology and real life logic? The way to regain stamina is to swing a giant battle axe. If you swing it enough times in a row, you will regain it all and be 0% tired. Now, If you just swing half way it wont work. So do a big wind up swing to get that energy back.

Fun > logic

Or play a different game.

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

Jumping does not negate AoEs.
Jumping does not "dodge" attacks.

Provide visual proof that it does, and then your claims are valid. Not, "oh I saw it!"

Actual proof.

Is this a troll thread? It has to be. There's no way grown adults are bothered by jumping in a game that affects nothing but personal aim enough to have this discussion.

Everything inside of me just can't accept this is a real discussion. It's not about balance, or actual combat mechanics, or even lore...it's an aggressive stance against...jumping????

Edit:

Hey, this is same person that started a goodbye thread back in November. Welcome back! XD

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380474/game-over

Jumping negates AOE. Not sure about it will dodge attacks completely.

LOL. Jumping negates AOE on the floor. Just go to skyreach or VMA. When something on the floor like red AOEs just jump. It wont negates all AOEs. It do negates some. Also it quicken ground based snares while jumping like casting shields in middle of ground AOE , but not movement speed. If you dont know dont comment.

Jumping alone wont negates attacks , as far I know unless you jump of the cliffs.

You have the burden of proof. Show us a video of you doing this. If you don't have proof, "don't comment." Jumping does not "quicken" ground based snares while jumping, the debuff ticks at the same rate if you don't jump. We have tools on pc to measure this

Here's my video of testing it in duels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COLUuvvPuIw

And here's the aforementioned (BY YOU) Skyreach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnPmTUqkTu4


Notice how the debuff doesn't "quicken" when jumping? And the damage still happens? So unless you are referring to a very specific instance of jumping on AoE, then I don't see your argument. Even then, if it's such an isolated incident, why comment it as if it has any bearing ?

Colecovision wrote: »

Why are people talking about physiology and real life logic? The way to regain stamina is to swing a giant battle axe. If you swing it enough times in a row, you will regain it all and be 0% tired. Now, If you just swing half way it wont work. So do a big wind up swing to get that energy back.

Fun > logic

Or play a different game.

because it is using the same exact argument you guys used to remove our fast sneak speeds, you guys said:

Quote:

"running as fast as a horse is not realistic"

End Quote:

so the same thing works here perfectly:

"jumping costs stamina in real life, so jumping in game costing nothing is not realistic"

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

Jumping does not negate AoEs.
Jumping does not "dodge" attacks.

Provide visual proof that it does, and then your claims are valid. Not, "oh I saw it!"

Actual proof.

Is this a troll thread? It has to be. There's no way grown adults are bothered by jumping in a game that affects nothing but personal aim enough to have this discussion.

Everything inside of me just can't accept this is a real discussion. It's not about balance, or actual combat mechanics, or even lore...it's an aggressive stance against...jumping????

Edit:

Hey, this is same person that started a goodbye thread back in November. Welcome back! XD

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380474/game-over

Jumping negates AOE. Not sure about it will dodge attacks completely.

LOL. Jumping negates AOE on the floor. Just go to skyreach or VMA. When something on the floor like red AOEs just jump. It wont negates all AOEs. It do negates some. Also it quicken ground based snares while jumping like casting shields in middle of ground AOE , but not movement speed. If you dont know dont comment.

Jumping alone wont negates attacks , as far I know unless you jump of the cliffs.

You have the burden of proof. Show us a video of you doing this. If you don't have proof, "don't comment." Jumping does not "quicken" ground based snares while jumping, the debuff ticks at the same rate if you don't jump. We have tools on pc to measure this

Here's my video of testing it in duels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COLUuvvPuIw

And here's the aforementioned (BY YOU) Skyreach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnPmTUqkTu4


Notice how the debuff doesn't "quicken" when jumping? And the damage still happens? So unless you are referring to a very specific instance of jumping on AoE, then I don't see your argument. Even then, if it's such an isolated incident, why comment it as if it has any bearing ?

LOL . Good luck with your proof . Jumping does negates some ground AOEs and quicken snares. In your vidoe itself has the proof how quick shields casted. Jumping also does quicken few things while snared.

Again same words
" Dont comment, when there is no bearing " . Dont waste others time.

Dude. I animation cancel shields. Getting really obvious this is a troll thread.

To anyone else reading this thread, pay attention to the discussion and see that this is a very small part of the community. Don't take things at face value, take notice that none of the other players have posted any proof, and this troll is literally denying any other argument and just restating what they originally said with no new evidence, even in the face of videos showing what they say isn't true.