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Some are hard to leave.Two of my earliest eso PvP guilds and my first trials guild died out, I held on for maybe too long after the roster dwindled until there were only 4-5 people logging on each day, and still felt a sense of loss when I left each one, because they were great guilds with great people when things were good.
Besides those, I've joined and left probably 6 PvP guilds for various reasons. Either not vibing with their play style or leadership, or there was too much drama in chat. I didn't really integrate with those guilds, so it wasn't a tough decision.
I've left a few raid guilds because schedules didn't match up or because they became inactive. I've never really had problems with any of them.
I've left a few trade guilds for reasons I don't even remember.
Edited by Reverb on April 5, 2018 2:48AM
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
No one even talking to the lower level players and ignoring their requests for help on quests and dungeons. I'm in a guild right now that hasn't even acknowledge my existence in 6 months because I can't play 15-20 hrs a week like they can so as a result I'm way behind them on levels.
Different reasons. Left one of my trading guilds because it was becoming a chore to keep 4 stocked and the one I left I wasn't doing much sales wise.
I may be leaving one soon on ps4 as it hasn't had a trader the past 2 weeks and on that platform you do have to pay weekly dues to get a trader in a good location.
Inactivity, the GM leaving, or horrid players. The most recent one treated me like garbage in a trial and when I called a guy out for scamming people- hard- no one saw the issue.
My wife and I recently left our guild of 2 years-ish because someone we don't like joined. As in, someone we were friends with but as soon as he got what he wanted from us (Amberplasm skin), we no longer mattered. We just can't stand people like that and seeing him worm his way up the ranks with his loud mouth isn't something we are particularly interested in seeing. Plus the fact that blocking him (who talks nonsense like every hour) would mean having a completely fragmented guild chat
When do decide a guild is not working out for you?
I left a guild recently that every member seemed super super nice in. I have both the leaders in my friends list because another old friend suggested them. This is a fairly well known guild.
In 2 1/2 months I travelled with the guild literally 1 time ever. Every day I would send up LFG dailies/LFG PvP, LFG whatever, from multiple roles, and never get a single response. At that point, what am I getting from the guild other than wasting my time and making me feel bad every time no one responded?
The other guild I left recently was a guild of very, very skilled players at the endgame tier. I simply felt that they were an elitist bunch of power gaming tools. I particularly didn't care for one of their newest leaders, who I felt was an exceptionally skilled player, but just came off as a jerk, to me. Constantly yelling and berating players for minor mistakes like his you know what didnt stink.
So two reasons I leave guilds are players I don't feel comfortable around, or guilds that aren't providing much value to me as a player.
1) Inactivity. Noone talks in guild chat, no events happen, I have no contact with other guild members beyond my recruiter after joining. If I'm just going to RP with one person, then we might as well just be on friends list and arrange things that way.
2) Rude people. Cliques, racist or other bigoted comments in guild chat, 'in crowd' vs 'out crowd' divisiveness, general jerkoffery, responses to reasonable questions or requests for help being 'l2p' 'git gud' 'ask google' 'scrub' 'lol nub' and other childish replies. Name calling. Immaturity.
3) Too Many Steps To Get Involved/Endless Peripherals. Join TS, Join discord too, download this app, fill out this form, join this forum, join our facebook page, attend 5 events scheduled at times that suck for you, let us pick apart and change your character, wear this uniform at all events and/or in-world, wear only these colors, wear the tabard at all times, etc. I don't have time for that nonsense. Pick one or two of that list, NOT THEM ALL.
4) Mandatory Fees/Attendance to Meetings. Found often with trade guilds 'sell 20k of merch or 5k weekly guild bank donation' or guilds wanting to force activity 'must attend one event a week'. I don't want this game to feel like a chore or that I will get kicked if I forget to pay dues one week or can't make a meeting.
5) Bizarre Rules That Do Not Fit Any Of My Characters. Often they won't tell me until I am in the guild. Don't wear red on Tuesdays, no fire staves, use this style of shield only, set _____ as your primary house, refer to the GM as 'Milord' even in 'OOC' guild chat, we do not talk about food on Thursdays, your character must accept a tattoo to be recognized as a member, etc. If you are going to have restrictions about character look and behavior and weird expectations, state so outright in your guild advert or recruitment process. If you have a particular theme in mind and looking for specific sort of characters, state so!
6) No Guild Chat. Active enough, but if you want to do anything, you'll be spending all your time tabbed out chatting in their discord/teamspeak/whatever, or sit in voice chat all the time to be up to date or included in what's going on. Often, the GM doesn't log in and sits in whatever program and controls things from there. I'm not into sitting in voice chat unless I am actively in a dungeon or trial or pvping in group with these people and need it to get direction on what to do and where to go. I do not want to listen to someone rant about their workday, chew, complain about medical problems, or talk about whatever else that isn't directly related to ongoing and current activities being done AT THAT MOMENT with them in the group. I want to play instead of endlessly be tabbed out in another program. Guilds have text chat; use it.
7) Terrible RP/Elitist RP. Not lore friendly at all, expects members to change their game reality to this other world, breaks accepted traditions. Examples include trying to run the Jedi Order in ESO and insists this is the Star Wars universe, characters that are half-dragon-mermaid-fairy-daedra-princesses, accepted poor RP behaviours (godmodding, power-playing, metagaming), 'RP' events that ignore player input and railroad/godmod out player choices to show a story instead of mutually create one (don't call it RP if interaction is fully squished and all you want is an audience). On the flip site, elitist RP 'must have totally lore friendly name for your race', 'must use quotes when speaking in character', 'we only speak in this racial language found at this website', 'if you are new or learning RP we will ignore you', etc. There's a balance to be made there, and too extreme either way has be leaving.
I haven't left a guild yet, but if I did, it would be because of abusive people. I'm not going to tolerate that nonsense.
*EDIT* Oh wait. I just remembered there WAS one time I left a guild. I left because the guild leader was bragging in chat about how he'd stolen from a guild he was in in another game. ... He cleaned the guild out, then left. I was so disgusted that I dropped the guild right then. I'd forgotten about it until I posted just now.
Since the game went live, I have only been a member of a single guild. I was perfectly happy to be in it, so my reason to leave it back in the day was my own inactivity due to an extended break I took from the game. When I returned to the game a year+ later and had spent sufficient time to know I would stay in it for the long haul, I reapplied for the same guild and found it to be my "home" in ESO yet again.
If I would leave now, it would be in the unlikely event of any of the reasons listed above coming into play. Except missing out on bids for guild traders - I can live well without.
Ok, who aggroed? I did? Never! I wouldn't. I swear.
Most of the guilds I have left were due to the guild becoming inactive. I have also left guilds that ended up not being a good fit for me for various reasons.
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Inactivity and rude people are the signals for me to leave the guild. If I feel like I'm the only one in the guild, why should I stay in the guild? Or if I feel like I do not belong to the guild then why should I stay?