Summerset Chapter and future of ESO PvP...
Marabornwingrion
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Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
PvP got battlegrounds last year. What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.Edited by Seraphayel on March 21, 2018 9:18PMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -8 -
mav1234✭✭✭✭✭They should do rated BGs... would be a nice thing to add.
A little concerned they didn't talk about PvP at all - not even saying there will be new BGs...6 -
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✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »maybe next DLc will be a full on PvP DLC? that would make me happy
Good luck. I am pretty sure the PvE playerbase outweighs the PvP playerbase and ZOS will not release a DLC that is 100% PvP. Sure they will add PvP in with PvE DLC's like they have continued to do since Morrowind but it would be a pretty dumb move on ZOS's part to leave PvE out of any future DLC.13 -
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✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
PvP got battlegrounds last year.
And PvE got a trial last year. And this year they will get another trial. So if ZOS have no problems with adding a trial to every chapter, why they can't add more PvP activities as well?What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.
There were literally dozens of threads and suggestions for improving Cyrodiil and Imperial City. Fixes, new activities, balance etc. A lot of them would be amazing to have in game. And with such a big update like Summerset there should be a big changes. Not only for PvE.8 -
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I have to agree with this. Apart from maps for BG everything would have to be base game / expansion content updates.Seraphayel wrote: »Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
PvP got battlegrounds last year. What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.
I do hope they've had Wheeler slaving away on some Cyrodiil revamps though.
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✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »maybe next DLc will be a full on PvP DLC? that would make me happy
The only PvP-based DLC they ever made was Imperial City. After that they never mentioned about making another one DLC purely for PvP. So my hope was to get new PvP activities with a Chapter, like we've got with Morrowind.0 -
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A little concerned they didn't talk about PvP at all - not even saying there will be new BGs...
I tried to think they forgot about it on ESO Live... But then I went to Store and in Chapter description there also was nothing about PvP upgrades/activities included in it...0 -
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✭✭✭✭Actually, there is something for PvPers, or at least for those PvPers who didn't buy Morrowind. If they pre-order Summerset they get Morrowind included, and that means they get Battlegrounds.
Oh! So that is why this is a chapter and not another dlc! If you didn’t buy they last chapter, this one has twice as much in it! Making it much larger then a dlc!4 -
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✭✭✭✭FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »maybe next DLc will be a full on PvP DLC? that would make me happy
Good luck. I am pretty sure the PvE playerbase outweighs the PvP playerbase and ZOS will not release a DLC that is 100% PvP. Sure they will add PvP in with PvE DLC's like they have continued to do since Morrowind but it would be a pretty dumb move on ZOS's part to leave PvE out of any future DLC.
Sad thing is, if in Summerset there is literally NOTHING new for PvP, then PvPers will buy it anyway.
Reason? New skills and ultimate...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
If you're going into this game as an exclusive PvP'er, you're inevitably going to get disappointed. This isn't a PvP game, it's an MMO RPG with a PvP element tacked on, and it's never going to be anything other than that.
It's rather impressive that PvP already got the Imperial City upgrade as well as Battlegrounds. Not every DLC or chapter has to bring something new to the PvP table. Indirectly, PvP is affected by everything anyway, such as new sets, balanced skills, new skill lines etc etc.
The only update PvP really /needs/ right now is better performance in Cyrodiil.
I suggest enjoying some of the vast PvE content, RPG content and exploring/crafting content that ESO offers, or play another more PvP-centric game on the side.14 -
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I highly doubt that any chapter or DLC will be purely PvP. Even Imperial City DLC has PvE content (group dungeons).magictucktuck wrote: »maybe next DLc will be a full on PvP DLC? that would make me happy
I think the reason for that is simple: vast majority of eso players are pve players. So a new Chapter / DLC with only PvP content would not sell well....5 -
VelociousLegend✭✭✭There have been numerous ideas and suggestions on how to improve Cyrodiil, IC, and BGs. I am still waiting for IC to come back to life - I had my best times PvPing there when it was at its peak.
Really telling that PvP wasn't even mentioned in the slightest for this "next big update".2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
PvP got battlegrounds last year.
And PvE got a trial last year. And this year they will get another trial. So if ZOS have no problems with adding a trial to every chapter, why they can't add more PvP activities as well?What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.
There were literally dozens of threads and suggestions for improving Cyrodiil and Imperial City. Fixes, new activities, balance etc. A lot of them would be amazing to have in game. And with such a big update like Summerset there should be a big changes. Not only for PvE.
What kind of PvP? Please tell me. Arenas? That's it what comes to my mind. They added a lot of maps to battlegrounds. New trials aren't groundbreaking either.
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✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
PvP got battlegrounds last year.
And PvE got a trial last year. And this year they will get another trial. So if ZOS have no problems with adding a trial to every chapter, why they can't add more PvP activities as well?What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.
There were literally dozens of threads and suggestions for improving Cyrodiil and Imperial City. Fixes, new activities, balance etc. A lot of them would be amazing to have in game. And with such a big update like Summerset there should be a big changes. Not only for PvE.
What kind of PvP? Please tell me. Arenas? That's it what comes to my mind. They added a lot of maps to battlegrounds. New trials aren't groundbreaking either.
A ranking system would be great. As well as match making based on it.1 -
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Upgrade for Cyrodiil with base game patch.
Fixes, improvements, new activities, rewards, maybe new skills in Alliance War skill lines.
Making whole Cyrodiil an interesting place, because the map is so huge and yet people run only around the center.
And get rid of damn lag.
Imperial City? Sewers are empty, on disctricts PvP is not impressive. Usually some small zergs wearing IP and farming bosses.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭What would you guys want?
arenas for 2v2 or 1v1.. I love BG's for fun but i want something structured and skill dependent. im not a fan of stacking together in tanky proc/heal builds spaming aoes and facerolling randoms. ( dont mean that as an insult to people ) but i want something with only 2 teams and a scoreboard that tracks you own person stats not just time played. even as simple as a most kills and most heals but would like something more advanced and in you need 80 dmg to count as a kill so its not tracking the sorc or magblade executing from the ledge
edit: but if its 2v2 or 1v1 its not so much about kills but win/loss ratio and a random que and a team que and with small teams and only 2 teams its should not be hard at all to have the people for both ques. there are lots of people who want this in the pvp sceneEdited by magictucktuck on March 21, 2018 9:41PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.
With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.
ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?
I just don't get it.
If you're going into this game as an exclusive PvP'er, you're inevitably going to get disappointed. This isn't a PvP game, it's an MMO RPG with a PvP element tacked on, and it's never going to be anything other than that.
It's rather impressive that PvP already got the Imperial City upgrade as well as Battlegrounds. Not every DLC or chapter has to bring something new to the PvP table. Indirectly, PvP is affected by everything anyway, such as new sets, balanced skills, new skill lines etc etc.
The only update PvP really /needs/ right now is better performance in Cyrodiil.
I suggest enjoying some of the vast PvE content, RPG content and exploring/crafting content that ESO offers, or play another more PvP-centric game on the side.
I agree entirely. Plus, of course, PvPers have also had dueling added previously.
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jwjackson5674✭✭✭VelociousLegend wrote: »There have been numerous ideas and suggestions on how to improve Cyrodiil, IC, and BGs. I am still waiting for IC to come back to life - I had my best times PvPing there when it was at its peak.
Really telling that PvP wasn't even mentioned in the slightest for this "next big update".
I'm sure there are lots of things that will be included that were not mentioned. Will just have to wait and see.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »What would you guys want?
arenas for 2v2 or 1v1.. I love BG's for fun but i want something structured and skill dependent. im not a fan of stacking together in tanky proc/heal builds spaming aoes and facerolling randoms. ( dont mean that as an insult to people ) but i want something with only 2 teams and a scoreboard that tracks you own person stats not just time played. even as simple as a most kills and most heals but would like something more advanced and in you need 80 dmg to count as a kill so its not racking the sorc or magblade executing from the ledge
Not working. Classes and PvP in ESO isn't balanced for 1vs1 situations and will never be. 2v2 or so... maybe.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭First ask ZOs to populate existing PVP. People are running away from PVP area like mad. Imperial city and sewers is complete failure. Zergs drives people away and no one cares and whining here in post ? PVP always going to run empty or 1 bar except vivec.
We can talk about anything later.Edited by Priyasekarssk on March 21, 2018 9:41PM0 -
jwjackson5674✭✭✭They already have 1v1....it's called Dueling
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✭✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »First ask ZOs populate existing PVP. People are running away from PVP. We can talk about other later.
They're not running away - they're rubberbanding because of lag
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✭✭✭✭✭jwjackson5674 wrote: »They already have 1v1....it's called Dueling
Dueling is just cosmetic and adds really nothing to the PvP in ESO.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Maybe they have some but it’s nothing new so much but rather improve Cyrodiil. I’d prefer them focusing on quality there and some other incentives outside of emp keeps and scrolls and it probably wouldn’t take an entire new system worth mentioning on a 30 minute commercial1 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭Wont the new psijjic combat skill tree be new for pvp? Read what they do. It sounds like game changer. Wont need a NB nerf if you can freeze time allowing you to attack them. Or go back in time 4 seconds before you got hit and then getting back all your health, stam and magicka.
Sounds like ganking could be dead.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭jwjackson5674 wrote: »They already have 1v1....it's called Dueling
that's not structured, I want to win something. most people PvP because they like the competitive side of things. dueling is great but a basic feature for any online game. its not the same as having a structured arenaEdited by magictucktuck on March 21, 2018 9:44PM2
