Summerset Chapter and future of ESO PvP...

firedrgn

Astrid_V wrote: »

Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.

With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.

ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?

I just don't get it.

Looks like pvp gets a whole skill line thats probabply more suited to pvpv then pve.

I doubt pvp ers are just foing to not craft jewlery .. of course they are.

Plenry of good sruff for everyone in this chapter.

TheValar85

So much qq around again the pvp, just enjoy your god mode game play in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
pvp players already made alot of damage to the aspect of the pve game play. thax to the nerf rants, wich destroyed alot of good classes, screwing up the balance between other classes.

So i am glad about the fact that the pvp-ers are not reciving anything new now in the next expansion.

Sendrik

TheValar85 wrote: »

So much qq around again the pvp, just enjoy your god mode game play in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
pvp players already made alot of damage to the aspect of the pve game play. thax to the nerf rants, wich destroyed alot of good classes, screwing up the balance between other classes.

So i am glad about the fact that the pvp-ers are not reciving anything new now in the next expansion.

And pvp players didnt get to be enforcers because of the qq of pve players,so what?
It works both ways.
And the,,qq''as you called it,is justified,considering that the pvp playerbase gets basically ignored,while the pve crowd,definatly doesnt.
No idea where all this frustration is comming from,you guys got much more than us already,and its not like we are asking for something totally unrealistic.
Regarding god mode gameplay:sneaking behind weak npc,s in towns and murdering them,anyone?

..Why should PvEers be denied access to a PvE system in PvE areas?''
Because the justice system was not intended to be a pve system in the first place,and it has a direct(often negative)impact on the other players around you.
Now we got hooded,,assassins''everywhere,who kill npc,s even in taverns,while other players try to relax there...its a bit difficult for me,to feel symphathy for them.


Simply NOT giving pvpers new content,cant be the solution either.
Give us a map with all the pvp features(including the REAL justice system)that the pve playerbase doesnt want to be part of,and both sides would be happy,no?
From what i saw,pvp players are willing to make a compromise at least and there are plenty of good ideas on how to improve pvp.
Yes,pvp is not as static as pve,but sooner or later,it WILL get boring,if you do the same stuff over and over again,no matter the tactics that other players come up with.

Bhaal5

Lost interest in summerset when i saw no mention in pvp, or any actual new content for that fact. (No added social content mentioned either)

Just reskinned c@@p sold at a premium

But early days there may be a fix the works (wishful thinking)

Feanor

I just find it hilarious that PvE players cry real hard when a dungeon hard mode is buggy and one shots players when things not working as they should is the standard in Cyrodiil, not the exception.

Beardimus

Sevn wrote: »

I REALLY hope CU is good, maybe the forums will be a touch more than nerf this nerf that. Wasn't Conan something suppose to kill eso? How's bdo? Isn't that a PvP centric game for pc? Combat looks fast and fluid.

All have been mentioned, yet same players still requent this forum as ESO is better....

Sevn

Beardimus wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

I REALLY hope CU is good, maybe the forums will be a touch more than nerf this nerf that. Wasn't Conan something suppose to kill eso? How's bdo? Isn't that a PvP centric game for pc? Combat looks fast and fluid.

All have been mentioned, yet same players still requent this forum as ESO is better....

Better pvp or just easier?

Torbschka

Sendrik wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

So much qq around again the pvp, just enjoy your god mode game play in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
pvp players already made alot of damage to the aspect of the pve game play. thax to the nerf rants, wich destroyed alot of good classes, screwing up the balance between other classes.

So i am glad about the fact that the pvp-ers are not reciving anything new now in the next expansion.

And pvp players didnt get to be enforcers because of the qq of pve players,so what?
It works both ways.
And the,,qq''as you called it,is justified,considering that the pvp playerbase gets basically ignored,while the pve crowd,definatly doesnt.
No idea where all this frustration is comming from,you guys got much more than us already,and its not like we are asking for something totally unrealistic.
Regarding god mode gameplay:sneaking behind weak npc,s in towns and murdering them,anyone?

..Why should PvEers be denied access to a PvE system in PvE areas?''
Because the justice system was not intended to be a pve system in the first place,and it has a direct(often negative)impact on the other players around you.
Now we got hooded,,assassins''everywhere,who kill npc,s even in taverns,while other players try to relax there...its a bit difficult for me,to feel symphathy for them.


Simply NOT giving pvpers new content,cant be the solution either.
Give us a map with all the pvp features(including the REAL justice system)that the pve playerbase doesnt want to be part of,and both sides would be happy,no?
From what i saw,pvp players are willing to make a compromise at least and there are plenty of good ideas on how to improve pvp.
Yes,pvp is not as static as pve,but sooner or later,it WILL get boring,if you do the same stuff over and over again,no matter the tactics that other players come up with.

I can tell u why most PvE-Players dont like PvP/PvP-Guys - although, note that this is my subjective view on that tipic, thete are white and black sheeps in both.

Good PvP guys (the 1vXer) just the better PvE players overall and they know that...

E.g., wEhen vsma released a pve guy told me i am *** bla bla cant do pve and pvp players are bad and its easy, he told me to do vsma - that would be hard. Cleared that *** with ease. Same for vmol on ps4 EU, we just cleared it with 12 good pvp players with ease (2nd boss is called hard, its a joke lol).

So, every good PvP player would be at least a decent PvE player, but the most decent PvE players are canon fodder in pvp.

Guess they know it deep in their heart, thats why they hate us.

Edit: take this with a grain of Salt xD

Kalgert

To be fair, putting resources in to PvP to be a guaranteed smash hit makes little sense, as it rarely is (Unless your game is literary built around PvP with PvE as the afterthought). Although I will admit that getting some updates or maybe some other additions would be nice. But can anyone honestly blame developers if they decide not to focus on the PvP aspects in their games who's main draw is PvE?

In my humblest of opinions and from experience, I consider PvP'ers to be the worst kind of people in any videogame. In the sense that more often than not you see them throw massive tantrums if something doesn't go right in their videogames, or if someone suggests something that may interfere with their beautiful videogame.

Take a casual glance at any game that's primarily PvE and has a PvP section. You're likely to see people throw massive tantrums about anything, be it how Russians are ruining PvP (Yes, you can see that more often than not), how PvE'rs are degenerate scum and they have no right to play PvP (You can also see that from time to time), or people screaming "Doom!" whenever an update is coming that may or may not shake things up.

Current example I can think of is the sightings of the Doomsayers throwing a massive tantrum in WoW about how they will shift servers in to separate shards for PvE and PvP. These people keep screaming about how this is the end of World PvP, clearly not understanding what is actually going on and continue to make the bizarre statement of how people should pay 20-25 Euros just to go off of PvP servers (Because logic is hard)

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see a similar kind of tantrum being played out if Zenimax would one day announce how the Imperial City will have a PvE phase put in, making it so people who wish for a peace of mind and slaughter Daedra and Imperials with expreme prejudice, at the downside of lesser Tel'var Stone rewards, a risk of losing all stones accumulated upon death, no bonuses from the banners and a lock on achievements associated to the City (Which in the long run could potentially discourage people from playing PvE, except for those who really don't want to deal with PvP). So, would anyone else be surprised to see PvP'ers go crazy if they suddenly added something to a Content Pack, which would make it accessible to literary everyone?

You might say that PvE players are equally as crazy (That I will agree with) and would go ballistic if there was a change coming that would mess things up. I won't deny that it is possible that might happen, but I usually see PvE outrage if there are additions/removals that really make no sense, or are something that wouldn't benefit anyone involved, n9t just PvP'ers or PvE'ers.

That's my view on things.

Skoomah

Jewelry crafting and a new skill line will bring HUGE changes to pvp builds and theorycrafting. Is the OP a serious pvp'er or just finding an excuse to complain? We really gotta keep the complaints to valid points here or ZOS will stop taking them seriously...

Xsorus

Skoomah wrote: »

Jewelry crafting and a new skill line will bring HUGE changes to pvp builds and theorycrafting. Is the OP a serious pvp'er or just finding an excuse to complain? We really gotta keep the complaints to valid points here or ZOS will stop taking them seriously...

This; This amount of builds and sets this will open up with be probably one of the biggest changes in PvP in a long time.

You will be able to transmute the jewelry as well. That means all those Heavy sets are going to be very very interesting.

As for more content; they don't need more content; They have two maps they can work with..Cyrodiil is massive and anything the game needs in terms of PvP can be added there.

In my opinion IC should be its own separate server....There is no point in linking it now since they chose not to go with the method DAOC took. So it should just simply be something like Shor for example.

Jade1986

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

magictucktuck wrote: »

maybe next DLc will be a full on PvP DLC? that would make me happy

Full PvP DLC focused on overhauling Cyrodiil...

A man can dream.

First populate existing cyrodil. We can talk about DLC later. All running in 1 bars except vivec. Whats meaning of PVP dlc when no one going to buy except few max CP players. Already imperial city and sewers are empty and a failure even with most premium game currency telvars and gold jewelry .

Sotha is always full after 4pm in europe, so.....

And the REASON cyro is dying slowly is cuz of the lack f attention it is getting. Not the other way around. Cause and effect.

Feanor

Skoomah wrote: »

Jewelry crafting and a new skill line will bring HUGE changes to pvp builds and theorycrafting. Is the OP a serious pvp'er or just finding an excuse to complain? We really gotta keep the complaints to valid points here or ZOS will stop taking them seriously...

With the same logic you could say that every dungeon DLC is for PvP because the sets can be used in PvP too. Having something that can be used in PvP too is very different to a bit more focus on PvP though (bug fixes, stability, new incentives mostly).

shakti82eb17_ESO

A ranking system would be great. As well as match making based on it.

Yes, yes and yes!

Torbschka

shakti82eb17_ESO wrote: »

A ranking system would be great. As well as match making based on it.

Yes, yes and yes!

We can only dream

Grabmoore

Skoomah wrote: »

Jewelry crafting and a new skill line will bring HUGE changes to pvp builds and theorycrafting. Is the OP a serious pvp'er or just finding an excuse to complain? We really gotta keep the complaints to valid points here or ZOS will stop taking them seriously...

This.

Also, we still don't know where the gold mats for Jewelry crafting will drop. A rare drop at molag bal and purchasable with tel var would be good.

pieratsos

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Captain8504 wrote: »

magictucktuck wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

What would you guys want?

arenas for 2v2 or 1v1.. I love BG's for fun but i want something structured and skill dependent. im not a fan of stacking together in tanky proc/heal builds spaming aoes and facerolling randoms. ( dont mean that as an insult to people ) but i want something with only 2 teams and a scoreboard that tracks you own person stats not just time played. even as simple as a most kills and most heals but would like something more advanced and in you need 80 dmg to count as a kill so its not tracking the sorc or magblade executing from the ledge

edit: but if its 2v2 or 1v1 its not so much about kills but win/loss ratio and a random que and a team que and with small teams and only 2 teams its should not be hard at all to have the people for both ques. there are lots of people who want this in the pvp scene

We've already got 1v1 arena's...its called dueling lol

Calling the duelling that we have now as 1v1 arenas is literally like calling an overland world boss as end game group content. Its indeed very funny when you actually think what you just said.

Man I'm so happy to hear most diehard pvper's don't consider dueling pvp! Could you all get Zos to understand you guys/gals don't want it so they can remove it or restrict it more? I'd love to move around towns without all the hubbub? Thanks!

Can you even read or your hate for PVPers is making you literally blind? When did i say that duelling isnt PVP. Point me where.

Jeez dude why do you hate so much those "diehard" PVPers. What did they do to you. They 1vXed you so much to the point where you have nightmares of them? lol. Get a grip.

What platform are you on? I PvP all the time. I love PvP. I'd love to show you how much I love PvP. Can't stand eso's tryhard pvper's, not to be confused with diehard pvper's. Bunch of babies constantly running to mommy because Tommy beat them in a game.

But What I REALLY despise is the constant negative threads and impact these players have on the majority of eso. Zos can't just totally ignore a portion of their game, but if they would just separate the two all of this would go away. Tryhards and diehards could live in their own little bubble and general discussion would be less toxic.

Talking about babies crying and you've literally been in every single thread crying about anyone who has the audacity to ask some improvement in cyrodiil. Seems legit.

And who said anything about ignoring a portion of the game? Who said anything about ignoring PVE to do changes in PVP. You are just making things up. Which is prety much what you've been doing from the beginning. Talking out of ur ***, putting words in people's mouths and making ridiculously stupid statements, avoiding to answer any actual point people make and then insulting anyone who disagrees with you. Like i said. Get a grip. You are the one making the thread toxic dumb-ass, not PVPers.

Lol! You folks are so easily riled up, love the salty replies! I'm in tons of these threads because they are highly entertaining. Who's the dumb ass, the one making ridiculous claims or the ones who keep responding to said claims?

At least try and hide the fact that some random person on the internet can have such an affect on you! I'm a nobody, why care about my opinion or try to refute it?

You still didn't answer the question though? What platform? I'm on ps4, Sevn_Vll, and I'd love to show you how much I enjoy PvP.

Riled up? Salty replies? Having an effect on me? You are seriously running around in the forum insulting people and then telling them that you have an effect on them? What the actual ****? And you are asking me who is the dumb-ass? Lmao. You are pure comedy mate.

Im on PC. Playing a lot longer than you do. Since beta. I dont need you to to show me anything and i highly doubt that you have anything to show me anw. But if you are so obsessed to show me how much u love PVP then by all means show us some footage of u in PVP.

Nah, you're much more entertaining to interact with and I believe it was you who stated I don't like pvper's or pvp when it's tryhards I don't like.

Let us be clear laddie, while you might have played since beta (wow, good for you!) that means zilch. If you consider carebear an insult maybe you snowflakes shouldn't use it either?

PC huh? Shame.

You are literally the one who derailed the thread. Every single post you made was just a shoot at anyone who likes PVP by insulting them, putting words in their mouths and making arguments out of ur *** just to provoke them even more.

And me playing since beta does mean something. It means i know a lot more than you do when it comes to PVP, that you are completely clueless and like i said pure comedy. Go back to ur zerg, maybe try vMA until u are good enough to beat it or dunno. Just do something that doesnt involve making urself look like an idiot here.

Ever heard the saying never argue with a fool? Yet you still engage this idiot? I'm blushing. What else is there to say? Repeat what others have already said? Nope, this is way more fun! Shame you're the only one silly enough to continue this engagement though!

Glad that you admit that you are a complete idiot and clueless at the game. At least now we know that you are a joke.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

@Astrid_V ez...as always PvP doesn't bring $ so we don't matter...

pieratsos

Skoomah wrote: »

Jewelry crafting and a new skill line will bring HUGE changes to pvp builds and theorycrafting. Is the OP a serious pvp'er or just finding an excuse to complain? We really gotta keep the complaints to valid points here or ZOS will stop taking them seriously...

New sets etc change the PVE meta as well. So according to this, ZOS could stop introducing any content in the game and we should be happy cause we get new sets.

You are right, we need valid points so they take it seriously. When cyrodiil is a complete mess i think its safe to say that asking for improvements is a valid point that should be taken seriously.

Sendrik

Kalgert wrote: »

Current example I can think of is the sightings of the Doomsayers throwing a massive tantrum in WoW about how they will shift servers in to separate shards for PvE and PvP. These people keep screaming about how this is the end of World PvP, clearly not understanding what is actually going on and continue to make the bizarre statement of how people should pay 20-25 Euros just to go off of PvP servers (Because logic is hard)
That's my view on things.

I know this is not the right forum for this,but since you already mentioned it:
Im one of those people,i play on a RP-PVP server.
And it IS the end of open world pvp as we knew it,it takes away the,,weight''of pvp if everyone can simply opt out of it and continue questing.
There are people who love this pressure,this constant danger when youre questing,the adrenaline when you dont know if youre getting ganked or not.
And then we have yet to see how the phasing(and there definatly will be phasing...)will turn out.
This basically turns pvp servers into pve servers,its a horrible change,and its not the responsibility of pvpers who choosed the correct server,to pay for the mistakes of the people who choosed this server because of a mistake or,,a friend''.
The,,a friend made me play on this server''is a very popular excuse....blame your friend,blame yourself for saying yes or not getting enough infos about the server first,but dont blame all the other people who made the correct choice.
Again,the purpose of the pvp server,was that you agree to pvp ONE TIME,and thats when you decide to create a character on this server,after that,you have to deal with the consequences.
It discourages finding help,banding together and forming alliances,if you can simply switch to a pve phase in your city,without even getting a penalty.

Just to be on the safe side:
I do not sugest a system like this for ESO because i know this game works differently.
But in wow,pvp servers have been part of the game for a very long time,and there are people who got used to them and love how they currently work.


About jewelry crafting:
This isnt a pvp feature...its simply a feature,and you dont even need to do pvp to use it.
If it is,everything,that you COULD use in pvp,would be a,,pvp feature''.
I dont know why this even has to be mentioned.

Priyasekarssk

Torbschka wrote: »

Sendrik wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

So much qq around again the pvp, just enjoy your god mode game play in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
pvp players already made alot of damage to the aspect of the pve game play. thax to the nerf rants, wich destroyed alot of good classes, screwing up the balance between other classes.

So i am glad about the fact that the pvp-ers are not reciving anything new now in the next expansion.

And pvp players didnt get to be enforcers because of the qq of pve players,so what?
It works both ways.
And the,,qq''as you called it,is justified,considering that the pvp playerbase gets basically ignored,while the pve crowd,definatly doesnt.
No idea where all this frustration is comming from,you guys got much more than us already,and its not like we are asking for something totally unrealistic.
Regarding god mode gameplay:sneaking behind weak npc,s in towns and murdering them,anyone?

..Why should PvEers be denied access to a PvE system in PvE areas?''
Because the justice system was not intended to be a pve system in the first place,and it has a direct(often negative)impact on the other players around you.
Now we got hooded,,assassins''everywhere,who kill npc,s even in taverns,while other players try to relax there...its a bit difficult for me,to feel symphathy for them.


Simply NOT giving pvpers new content,cant be the solution either.
Give us a map with all the pvp features(including the REAL justice system)that the pve playerbase doesnt want to be part of,and both sides would be happy,no?
From what i saw,pvp players are willing to make a compromise at least and there are plenty of good ideas on how to improve pvp.
Yes,pvp is not as static as pve,but sooner or later,it WILL get boring,if you do the same stuff over and over again,no matter the tactics that other players come up with.

I can tell u why most PvE-Players dont like PvP/PvP-Guys - although, note that this is my subjective view on that tipic, thete are white and black sheeps in both.

Good PvP guys (the 1vXer) just the better PvE players overall and they know that...

E.g., wEhen vsma released a pve guy told me i am *** bla bla cant do pve and pvp players are bad and its easy, he told me to do vsma - that would be hard. Cleared that *** with ease. Same for vmol on ps4 EU, we just cleared it with 12 good pvp players with ease (2nd boss is called hard, its a joke lol).

So, every good PvP player would be at least a decent PvE player, but the most decent PvE players are canon fodder in pvp.

Guess they know it deep in their heart, thats why they hate us.

Edit: take this with a grain of Salt xD

Let me tell the truth. You telling 100 percent lie. So calling themselves good guys only 1VX us low bies. Only low bies are used as cannot fodder. They are not even in acceptable level or gear. Good PVP players avoid each other. Because there is no incentive to that another equation. Keep ranting yourself PVP players are superior. There is no such thing. Most of the players are in both PVP & PVE and good in both.

Seraphayel

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Lost interest in summerset when i saw no mention in pvp, or any actual new content for that fact. (No added social content mentioned either)

Just reskinned c@@p sold at a premium

But early days there may be a fix the works (wishful thinking)

To be fair they said NOTHING about the base game. They only said something about Summerset and not even that was very detailed. Or did anybody remember them talking about Abyssal Geisyrs, the new form of events? Yeah, me neither.

Duukar

I think if they work on tweaking BGs that would be enough to make me happy.

Big AP increase. Remove pay wall. Solo and group queue.

BGs need more population.

Marabornwingrion

Duukar wrote: »

I think if they work on tweaking BGs that would be enough to make me happy.

Big AP increase. Remove pay wall. Solo and group queue.

BGs need more population.

Lol, that one won't happen. ZO$ is too greedy.

Sevn

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

Captain8504 wrote: »

magictucktuck wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

What would you guys want?

arenas for 2v2 or 1v1.. I love BG's for fun but i want something structured and skill dependent. im not a fan of stacking together in tanky proc/heal builds spaming aoes and facerolling randoms. ( dont mean that as an insult to people ) but i want something with only 2 teams and a scoreboard that tracks you own person stats not just time played. even as simple as a most kills and most heals but would like something more advanced and in you need 80 dmg to count as a kill so its not tracking the sorc or magblade executing from the ledge

edit: but if its 2v2 or 1v1 its not so much about kills but win/loss ratio and a random que and a team que and with small teams and only 2 teams its should not be hard at all to have the people for both ques. there are lots of people who want this in the pvp scene

We've already got 1v1 arena's...its called dueling lol

Calling the duelling that we have now as 1v1 arenas is literally like calling an overland world boss as end game group content. Its indeed very funny when you actually think what you just said.

Man I'm so happy to hear most diehard pvper's don't consider dueling pvp! Could you all get Zos to understand you guys/gals don't want it so they can remove it or restrict it more? I'd love to move around towns without all the hubbub? Thanks!

Can you even read or your hate for PVPers is making you literally blind? When did i say that duelling isnt PVP. Point me where.

Jeez dude why do you hate so much those "diehard" PVPers. What did they do to you. They 1vXed you so much to the point where you have nightmares of them? lol. Get a grip.

What platform are you on? I PvP all the time. I love PvP. I'd love to show you how much I love PvP. Can't stand eso's tryhard pvper's, not to be confused with diehard pvper's. Bunch of babies constantly running to mommy because Tommy beat them in a game.

But What I REALLY despise is the constant negative threads and impact these players have on the majority of eso. Zos can't just totally ignore a portion of their game, but if they would just separate the two all of this would go away. Tryhards and diehards could live in their own little bubble and general discussion would be less toxic.

Talking about babies crying and you've literally been in every single thread crying about anyone who has the audacity to ask some improvement in cyrodiil. Seems legit.

And who said anything about ignoring a portion of the game? Who said anything about ignoring PVE to do changes in PVP. You are just making things up. Which is prety much what you've been doing from the beginning. Talking out of ur ***, putting words in people's mouths and making ridiculously stupid statements, avoiding to answer any actual point people make and then insulting anyone who disagrees with you. Like i said. Get a grip. You are the one making the thread toxic dumb-ass, not PVPers.

Lol! You folks are so easily riled up, love the salty replies! I'm in tons of these threads because they are highly entertaining. Who's the dumb ass, the one making ridiculous claims or the ones who keep responding to said claims?

At least try and hide the fact that some random person on the internet can have such an affect on you! I'm a nobody, why care about my opinion or try to refute it?

You still didn't answer the question though? What platform? I'm on ps4, Sevn_Vll, and I'd love to show you how much I enjoy PvP.

Riled up? Salty replies? Having an effect on me? You are seriously running around in the forum insulting people and then telling them that you have an effect on them? What the actual ****? And you are asking me who is the dumb-ass? Lmao. You are pure comedy mate.

Im on PC. Playing a lot longer than you do. Since beta. I dont need you to to show me anything and i highly doubt that you have anything to show me anw. But if you are so obsessed to show me how much u love PVP then by all means show us some footage of u in PVP.

Nah, you're much more entertaining to interact with and I believe it was you who stated I don't like pvper's or pvp when it's tryhards I don't like.

Let us be clear laddie, while you might have played since beta (wow, good for you!) that means zilch. If you consider carebear an insult maybe you snowflakes shouldn't use it either?

PC huh? Shame.

You are literally the one who derailed the thread. Every single post you made was just a shoot at anyone who likes PVP by insulting them, putting words in their mouths and making arguments out of ur *** just to provoke them even more.

And me playing since beta does mean something. It means i know a lot more than you do when it comes to PVP, that you are completely clueless and like i said pure comedy. Go back to ur zerg, maybe try vMA until u are good enough to beat it or dunno. Just do something that doesnt involve making urself look like an idiot here.

Ever heard the saying never argue with a fool? Yet you still engage this idiot? I'm blushing. What else is there to say? Repeat what others have already said? Nope, this is way more fun! Shame you're the only one silly enough to continue this engagement though!

Glad that you admit that you are a complete idiot and clueless at the game. At least now we know that you are a joke.

The great thing is, you're completely clueless to how foolish you look for allowing this complete idiot who is clueless at the game to continue to manipulate you into engagement.

By the way, surely you can muster up better insults? Or is this the extent of your wit?

Sevn

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

@Astrid_V ez...as always PvP doesn't bring $ so we don't matter...

I mean, this is a business they are running and I'm willing to bet that all this work and resources to be used to implement said changes are to be done for free right?

What company in their right mind would take resources from making content to SELL to the masses in favor of using that time and resources to GIVE away content to a minority group?

How many dedicated pvper's would be willing to PAY for these changes?

Sendrik

Well,i would be willing to pay for new pvp content for sure.


PS:There are game developers who make games/big features for a minority on purpose.
They know they will get less money because of that,but yeah...ideals,and stuff....
But ofcourse,ideals are the luxury of smaller companies,so we cant expect those here.

The_Brosteen

Turelus wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Main question is - why they didn't mention a single word about PvP stuff?
We are going to get a new trial, but what about PvPers...? They are still quite big part of the game.

With Morrowind we got something for both - Halls of Fabrication for PvErs, and Battlegrounds for PvPers.
With Summerset? Nothing for PvP.

ZOS, what about upgrading Cyrodiil after 4 years to make it a better place?
What about Imperial City and its emptiness?
What about Battlegrounds, new Chapter won't add any new types of games to it?

I just don't get it.

PvP got battlegrounds last year. What do you expect they'll add for PvP? They can tweak Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds but there isn't more to come for PvP imho except maybe new maps for BGs and balancing in Cyrodiil.

I have to agree with this. Apart from maps for BG everything would have to be base game / expansion content updates.
I do hope they've had Wheeler slaving away on some Cyrodiil revamps though.

On that note wheeler hasnt made an appearance in quite some time. Although I fear it's because he is still stuck in a load screen

Dystopia2020

All I want is Cyrodiil fixed. No more endless loading screens and a return to everyone playing one faction the entire campaign.
WTB Midyear Mayhem twice a year

ReverseVenom

@ everyone saying how this game was an mmo and never intended to be too focused on PvP and it's PvPers expecting too much...

Like was I the only one that watched the original cinematic, or perhaps the literal symbol of ESO (the ouroboros) isn't telling enough that this game has, from the get go, been marketed for the AvA war. The launch of ESO saw faction locked 90 day campaigns. The first DLC was a PvPvE area. like the game was marketed with a huge emphasis on PvP so I don't understand how y'all are so pissed off that we want the part of the game we love to function properly and receive legitimate updates every once in a while.