SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

Moloch1514 wrote: »

Can the ZOS servers handle outfits? Maybe swapping weapons now requires more data to search through?

This is my suspicion as well. I had the bar swap bug on PTS, and another bug where outfitted weapons would revert to their original style on my screen, but not on other people's screens. (Yes, I did report this!) It left me wondering whether the extra layer of encoding necessary to render the override textures was causing the delay in swapping, and sometimes konking out all together.

I am keeping my ugly old weapon safe from outfitting until this whole thing is sorted out!

starkerealm wrote: »

I just counted off a six second barswap. Normally it's around 1.5 to 2, but holy ****, what the actual ****!? This came up on the PTS and it put the game in an unplayable state!?

have you noticed delays in other skills triggering (or even not triggering at all)? I'll bet the answer is YES.

LioraValkyrie wrote: »

Moloch1514 wrote: »

Can the ZOS servers handle outfits? Maybe swapping weapons now requires more data to search through?

This is my suspicion as well. I had the bar swap bug on PTS, and another bug where outfitted weapons would revert to their original style on my screen, but not on other people's screens. (Yes, I did report this!) It left me wondering whether the extra layer of encoding necessary to render the override textures was causing the delay in swapping, and sometimes konking out all together.

I am keeping my ugly old weapon safe from outfitting until this whole thing is sorted out!

i doubt that - the character that has the severe issue wears no more outfit then before and my other character has 0 lag...if it was individual costume related it would affect or not affect an individual character if it was server related it would affect all characters no?

its kind of funny but i dont run any UI addons at all and do not have an issue with bar swapping.

starkerealm wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

I just counted off a six second barswap. Normally it's around 1.5 to 2, but holy ****, what the actual ****!? This came up on the PTS and it put the game in an unplayable state!?

have you noticed delays in other skills triggering (or even not triggering at all)? I'll bet the answer is YES.

Yep. The biggest offenders seem to be from the weapon skill lines. In some cases, I'm pretty sure the ability is firing, and there's simply no animation feedback whatsoever. In other cases, I'm pretty sure the ability never fires.

My endless hail does that along with rending slashes. The audio cues are all there but my toon simply stands there holding her weapon like nothing happened.

Hope they can get it in by Mondays patch.

Rainingblood wrote: »

I've just been playing in Cyrodiil today, but it definitely gets worse with the more players around you. With a DC Zerg on me I couldn't swap weapons at all.

Welcome in the PS4 EU world...

Somebody suggested lowering texture resolution will lower the weapon swap delay. Tested it, it really does.
Okay... so...
WHY THE HELL DOES IT? Are the weapon-textures downloaded on every swap? Is the server counting the pixels? Has someone completely fu**ed up the game?
Well the last one seems probable.
In my limited knowledge of programming, it makes no sense, but I'm sure it will be fixed "soon™".

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

I hope nobody did something like locking the loading time to the FPS and forcing v-sync weapon swap time, because only very stupid people would to that. *cough*
Sry Beth, love you anyway.

JBNimble wrote: »

Somebody suggested lowering texture resolution will lower the weapon swap delay. Tested it, it really does.
Okay... so...
WHY THE HELL DOES IT? Are the weapon-textures downloaded on every swap? Is the server counting the pixels? Has someone completely fu**ed up the game?
Well the last one seems probable.
In my limited knowledge of programming, it makes no sense, but I'm sure it will be fixed "soon™".

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

I hope nobody did something like locking the loading time to the FPS and forcing v-sync weapon swap time, because only very stupid people would to that. *cough*
Sry Beth, love you anyway.

i thought the days where you lock animations to framerates and similar things were long gone because they only cause horrible undesired results and break games

BuddyAces wrote: »

Maybe this is a test to "slow down" combat. Can't nerf regen anymore so let's stop em from bar swappin. That'll slow down dps

the weird things are tough that it only affects some characters from the same player - some of my characters have no bar swapp lagg at all while others have 2 second delay...

So far now I can tell i had horrible problems with bar swapping also. Tried to turn off all addons, graphic settings lowest possible, had cooldown on bar swapping- I earlier could immediatly change my bar to healing, cast a spell without it being yet fully graphically shown and change back. Now i have normally to wait around 1-2s before changing from one bar to other. With this additionally happens quite a lot that I try to put aoe spell with no smart-casting[first hint where would I cast, then again hit the ability bind or left click to confirm], it vanishes like there was something other that stopped it. So instead to just confirm with left click, was doing a light attack.

But! I have just started some quests, and in Glenumbra, during quest A step back in time, after wearing a magic armor that turns me into some man, the problem has stopped. Have just tried swapping and it has NO DELAY, NO COOLDOWN. Didn't try about that aoe casting and confirming as I had to set to smart casting eventually. Will see later after I finish the quest if the problem comes back. There might be some hint for ZOS where to look for the solution or what might be wrong so far. Hope for quick Monday patch for now.

# what I confirmed for now: ofc being someone else works only in some area, when got out severe bars problems got back, after going back to quest area right after it turned me into that guy again there are no problems with bars at all. I would try polymorph outside but don't have anything unlocked from these unfortunately Can someone with long cooldown test if polymorph works or in that quest in Glenumbra if has same effects?

BuddyAces wrote: »

Maybe this is a test to "slow down" combat. Can't nerf regen anymore so let's stop em from bar swappin. That'll slow down dps

how about when skill just don't fire, and when the the whole game freezes for 3 seconds or so? The servers are getting progressively worse.

Maybe someone is still looking for temporary solution, then... Just use a polymorph, just did a bargain's end quest and with polymorph on my bars swap instantly No more waiting for this cooldown and bar not swapping right after using one ability and trying to go backbar, at least outside. Will also try going with this on pledges and to piblic dungeon soon.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

I don't think that's related. At least, not in my case. My load screens correlate with Master Merchant and HarvestMap (which, I probably should just uninstall HM, it's nice, but not really that vital.) However, the swap delay is completely addon agnostic.

BuddyAces wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Maybe this is a test to "slow down" combat. Can't nerf regen anymore so let's stop em from bar swappin. That'll slow down dps

how about when skill just don't fire, and when the the whole game freezes for 3 seconds or so? The servers are getting progressively worse.

My post was sarcasm. When they hit sustain with their big arse nerf sledgehammer they said it was to "slow down" dps or something along those lines. DPS was getting too high so that's why they did it. So that's what I was talking about.

I get it... I think the lag is yet another attempt to "slow combat" LOL!