What THE F is wrong with BAR SWAP ???????????

Ivan04

This bug is the best rage-inducer in the history of the game so far

Sweetare

Ivan04 wrote: »

This bug is the best rage-inducer in the history of the game so far

In MMO history.
I just rage quit and canceled my ESO+ after 10 minutes in Cyro.
Cause weapon swap wasn't bad enough, if I use ambush, I see the weapon animation but the character doesn't teleport to my enemy. 2 or 3 seconds later it teleports me to the location where the target WAS but it isn't there anymore. Woohoo. Now add to that that you can't really reliably swap weapons, skills don't fire and you have a beautiful PvP experience

ArtOfShred

Just chiming in here - this shouldn't be related to LUI at all. It wouldn't really be possible for me to create an issue like this unless I generated an loop that didn't break for a few thousand+ iterations and chewed your CPU up on bar swap. Even then that shouldn't cause a delay on the server unless the client was completely hardlocked - which you'd experience as your screen completely freezing for a second or two.

Oh, well I see Gina already confirmed it was reproduced internally. Retreating back to my cave until someone else calls me out with the 3 letter bat signal.

Rainingblood

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

There is a thread in the Bug Reports forum also and there are a lot of us experiencing this bug and it makes the game unplayable. Literally.

It's not an add-on issue. The only two add-ons I'm using ATM are up-to-date, but I've also experienced the bug while all add-ons are disabled.

I've just been playing in Cyrodiil today, but it definitely gets worse with the more players around you. With a DC Zerg on me I couldn't swap weapons at all. Could it have something to do with all the extra rendering that needs to be done because of the outfit system?

Can you log in, can you play, can you talk to people? You can kill enemies? Is there a delay sure, but can you play? Then I guess the game isn't unplayable.

I'm guessing it is an add on issue, and if it is it's not on ZoS to fix the problem. it would be on the person that maintains the add on to find the issue and resolve it. ZoS will only make sure stuff "works" with the base install of the game essentially. That's how it should be. You think there are issues now, imagine if they had to know how every single add on works and interacts with their code...

Nice assumption... It is unplayable to me because I don't play the game to just log in and chat with people. I PvP. And this bug makes that impossible. So yeah, it's unplayable for me.

And read the rest of the posts on the subject. It IS NOT and add-on issue.

Nemesis7884

starkerealm wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

I don't think that's related. At least, not in my case. My load screens correlate with Master Merchant and HarvestMap (which, I probably should just uninstall HM, it's nice, but not really that vital.) However, the swap delay is completely addon agnostic.

Rainingblood wrote: »

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

There is a thread in the Bug Reports forum also and there are a lot of us experiencing this bug and it makes the game unplayable. Literally.

It's not an add-on issue. The only two add-ons I'm using ATM are up-to-date, but I've also experienced the bug while all add-ons are disabled.

I've just been playing in Cyrodiil today, but it definitely gets worse with the more players around you. With a DC Zerg on me I couldn't swap weapons at all. Could it have something to do with all the extra rendering that needs to be done because of the outfit system?

Can you log in, can you play, can you talk to people? You can kill enemies? Is there a delay sure, but can you play? Then I guess the game isn't unplayable.

I'm guessing it is an add on issue, and if it is it's not on ZoS to fix the problem. it would be on the person that maintains the add on to find the issue and resolve it. ZoS will only make sure stuff "works" with the base install of the game essentially. That's how it should be. You think there are issues now, imagine if they had to know how every single add on works and interacts with their code...

Nice assumption... It is unplayable to me because I don't play the game to just log in and chat with people. I PvP. And this bug makes that impossible. So yeah, it's unplayable for me.

And read the rest of the posts on the subject. It IS NOT and add-on issue.

people have already proven that it isn't an add on problem - people have deleted all their add one and the problem persists

besides - the problem only affects some of my characters while other's it doesn't at all...so how can it be an add on problem

Nemesis7884

i checked all my characters and for some reason only tanks seem to be affected with the bar swapp issue (so all characters that do wear heavy armor and have a shield at least on one bar) - is that the same for everyone else? Might this be related somehow?

exiars10

^^^^^^^
My only character is from my signature and not only I have bar swap problem but abilities delay, too or they don't even register! It's terrible.

EDIT
I played this morning both PvE and Cyrodiil and no swap weapon bug...

Adernath

I had this issue on my main as she had her weapons changed with the outfit only and nothing else. Now she has a complete outfit (although it is currently hidden behind a costume) and the problem disappeared.

On my other alt, who still only has the weapons changed and nothing else, the issue persists. I will test what happens if I give her a complete outfit as soon as I have a bit more gold to spend.

werzui

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

werzui

Ok i just tested my main and the weaponswap bug still persists even after completely deleting the outfit (wich costs gold WTF) :'(

My main character is not playable at all at the moment (note: i have cleaninstalled eso before and have absolutely no addons + i get massive fps issues that wasn't there before the DLC)
i cant play atm and thats sad af

MarrazzMist

Last night I was playing normal trials with guildies. I knew I have bar swap bug, but wanted to participate anyway.

I deleted my few add-ons before, and also removed outfit from my weapons, which seemed to ease the bug a little when I was alone.

Trials were crazy with the bug. Weapons swapped unpredictably, I was often fireing dual wield abilities while still holding a bow. And wise versa. Sometimes my characters hands made bow animation, but holding axes instead. Usually when there were lot of action, I couldn’t swap at all and was stick with the bar I had. Sometimes skills didn’t fire at all, and I got ”you are busy” -message.

Luckily I have a nice guild, they don’t mind if I play like a cat in skooma.

Vietfox

I don't use that addon. Keyboard and mouse, happens the same to me

Apache_Kid

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

RouDeR

Apache_Kid wrote: »

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

Not related at all , 2 of my 3 characters were bugged at the verry first moment after the patch droped .

Izaki

Apache_Kid wrote: »

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

Not related in the slightest.

Apache_Kid

RouDeR wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

Not related at all , 2 of my 3 characters were bugged at the verry first moment after the patch droped .

I still won't be touching it for a bit. Even if you are right. You never know whats gonna break your ish in this game. Including official game patches.

Apache_Kid

Izaki wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

Not related in the slightest.

I read multiple comments yesterday about people who didn't have problems on any characters til they used the station and then all characters even ones who didnt use it were affected. It was a decent shout even if i am just speculating. Still not going near it for a bit. Spaghetti code scares me. Call me cautious.

exiars10

^^^^^^
I never touched outfit station because I don't care about cosmetics, and I had bug.

I can confirm that today in both PvE and Cyrodiil I don't have weapon swap bug and abilities don't delay.

Rohamad_Ali

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

SOMETHING I NOTICED - might be important - the characters with the slowest bar swap lag are also the characters with the longest loading screens... i dont know if related

I don't think that's related. At least, not in my case. My load screens correlate with Master Merchant and HarvestMap (which, I probably should just uninstall HM, it's nice, but not really that vital.) However, the swap delay is completely addon agnostic.

i have neither of those and have much longer loading screens...the only add ons i have is skyshards and books

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We have to wait until Monday ? But that'll take forever ... Boo .

we have no ideai f whatever they are doing will fix it...what if they can't fix it WHAT THEN???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmLDxiI_dgs

zigzactly

RouDeR wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

werzui wrote: »

i have my main completely outfittet (with weapons too) and the weaponswap seems bugged only for this character that is full outfittet, even if i take that outfit off, only my alts that are not outfittet seem to have a normal weaponswap

Looks like i wont be touching the outfit system when it goes live on console for about a month. I had a feeling that the bar-swapping issues and the outfit system were related based on what people were reporting.

Not related at all , 2 of my 3 characters were bugged at the verry first moment after the patch droped .

same thing happened to me. Except it was just on my nb. The others were fine.

Although i did try to use the outfitting station in an attempt to glitch it back to normal.... no lucj tho.

exact same addons used across all my characters.

majulook

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance of a hot fix on this before the weekend?

It’s killing the game for many of us.

Unfortunately, it's extremely unlikely. We're still working on fixing the issue, and by time we have something in place and tested, we'll already be prepping for Monday's patch.

Just saw a post saying that it would be in Mondays patch

ZOS_Edward wrote: »

Hey everyone!

We are aware of the issue with lag when switching weapons. The team has been testing a fix for this and will add it to Monday's incremental patch as long as the fix resolves the issue. Check the Patch Notes when they're posted for more information.

Thanks!

ItsNebula

Mayrael wrote: »

Hah... Maybe it has something to do with this new overpriced outfit system?

Overpriced? xD if anything its underpriced.

If you cant afford like 20k to change an outfit idk why to tell ya.

Its not hard to make gold, i can make about 3mil in a day, or if i just casually make gold i can make maybe 10mil a week just by selling motifs.

ItsNebula

I dont know about you guys...

But WoW is looking really good right now.. especially with that new expansion coming out.