Aurelle1 wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Aurelle1 wrote: »

Having taken a great deal of care creating every one of my characters, I want to be able to SEE them !!

What if full length mirrors are available as 1st person, and you could turn your head like you would in real life, to check out the other side of your character.

Nice idea, but is that ever going to happen? Actually it would be good to be able to see your toon full frontal (excuse the expression) at the flick of a button without breaking stride.

Nah, it won't ever happen. That's what imagination is for! lol

Third person as it allows me to see more of landscape and avoid danger. First person is only useful when I can not interact with objects or when I need to have closer look at things in game.

Some skills are also easier to use when like teleport abilities or AoE need to be placesd in distance. There are some problems in third person where bulls eye (centre of screen) isn't exactly on target and then it will not work to use that skill. I guess that ESO where designed with first person view as the main way of target objects in game and not third person.

depends on the type of mmo, shooters first, eso third - that being said - first person view is one of the MAJOR appeals to me of the TES single player series - i don't know if i'd play them if they were third person only...within an mmo environment it's just less feasible

It depends on the game. Generally speaking.

Specifically, ESO: a) has a high frequency of combat attacks and skills (attack weaving); b) depends to a significant degree on manually targeted attacks and manually placed AoEs; c) lacks an auto-target system; d) is replete with boss fights in relatively small areas where AoE avoidance is at a premium (and I am not even mentioning PVP).

By definition in a game like this one wants to have the best visibility possible, especially from the standpoint of targeting but also avoiding enemy attacks. One's mileage may vary, but after trying to manage it via 1st person for quite a while I finally switched to 3rd person and never looked back (in fact, accidentally switching back from 3rd to 1st in combat due to the default controller mapping - and some key-binding menu stupidity where certain default controls don't even show up on the list - has become my number one in-combat annoyance since the visibility reduction "feels" to be very substantial).

Compare and contrast with, say, TOR or LOTRO, both of which are really using the WoW model. Auto-targeting skills and attacks; significant global cooldown (essentially, no weaving so ~half of ESO's button presses per unit of time); at least some fights take place in very, very wide open areas...the pace of combat is a lot different, and often enough comes down to moving into range then typing in a sequence of numbers corresponding to a skill rotation while generally looking in the enemy's direction. In conditions like these, 1st person works exceedingly well in my experience.

TLDR - ESO essentially "forced" me to switch from 1st to 3rd, and that's just the nature of the game. Which I do not see changing over the visible future. Which, of course, does not forbid anyone from playing in 1st person "just because".

If I could vote, I'd say both. In every other MMO I've always played in third person but with Elder Scrolls games, first person view just feels more natural and enjoyable for me, especially in ESO.

Edit: They both have their advantages/disadvantages. 3rd person does seem more logical for certain situations though.

newtinmpls wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

ESO, this game was specifically designed for third person, with first person shoe-horned in after the game's reveal was met with intense backlash and disapproval, and the lead game designers finally began to consider that maybe, just maybe, players would actually like to play an online TES game with ESO, and not play DAOC2. The muppets.

I can't praise the team enough for One Tamriel though. Better late than never.

I am continually boggled by how they appear to have initially ignored the potential HUGE market of TES players; and early on a LOT of them got alienated by ESO limitations/choices.

I hope many are coming back.

PS I do wish there was better 1st person for ESO

because they didnt design a TES game but an mmo in the tes universe

It depends really, but most of the time third person view is much more convenient.

I dont do FirstPerson. I dont even play singleplayergames in First Person.
It makes me nauseous. Plus it ruins my immersion. I need to see my Avatar in order to connect with it.

Third person for me. The only time I do first person is funnily enough, in First Person Shooters. Or sort of the same thing when playing racing games (just the front of the car in view)

3rd person all the way. What’s the point of having all sorts of customization in these games when all you see is someone’s mitts and elbows 90% of the time? Destiny, I’m looking at you.

Waste of art design and doesn’t connect me with the character at all.

I like that ESO has the option of functional 1st person gameplay, but from a practical perspective (hah) I have to go with 3rd person in MMOs.

Any game with first person only would be a game I would not buy nor play.

Due to the fact that the elder scrolls started as a first person rpg,i have always been a big fan of the those dungeon crawler type games back in the day (eye of the beholder etc) but being an mmo i prefer third person so i can see my character plain and simple

I'm starting to like third person more and more over time. In an MMO I'd always prefer third person, but in the single player TES games I use third person based on clunkiness. TESO is the least clunky, followed by Skyrim and then Oblivion. When I play Oblivion recently I'm always surprised at how clunky third person view feels, but I still use it sometimes.