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PC/NA Vivec why does ep get so much hate from the other factions?

chris211
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I frankly don't understand why Dc And Ad on Vivec dislike ep so much care to explain please?
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    We don't like you enough to tell you .
  • redspecter23
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    I'm willing to bet that DC feels hate from AD and EP. AD likely feels hated by EP and DC. It's just your point of reference.
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    I'm willing to bet that DC feels hate from AD and EP. AD likely feels hated by EP and DC. It's just your point of reference.

    not really, it's a fact that changes with time. since EP won so many campaigns in a row DC and AD don't like us at the moment, that'll change in the future probably with DC being the target of animosity that'll likely happen in the next few weeks.
    Edited by Lucky28 on January 8, 2018 11:54PM
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  • VaranisArano
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    Yeah, EP won something like 7 or 8 campaigns in a row on PC/NA Vivec. When that happens, you sort of have to expect the other teams to start focusing the team that's proven they can be top dog for most of a year.

    Besides, DC and AD keep coming and EP keeps killing them :smiley:
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    It changes. Has mostly been between DC and EP for a long time due to those factions historically having the most high-end guilds.
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    Everyone used to hate AD the most.
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    I suppose I might have been wrong then. I'm a DC in Shor and find myself hating both AD and EP equally. Maybe I should move to Vivec so I only have to hate EP. Could save myself some hassle :)
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  • Drdeath20
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    Its an easier route to travel for DC to attack EP.

    Not many geographic barriers and a very condensed cluster of spots to respawn.

    AD just benefits from that.

    For me id rather have tons of fights and many spots to respawn rather than play horse simulator 2000.

    Yes AD and DC spend more time and resources fighting EP but its for the most part just bcz the way the map is designed.



  • Lucky28
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    I suppose I might have been wrong then. I'm a DC in Shor and find myself hating both AD and EP equally. Maybe I should move to Vivec so I only have to hate EP. Could save myself some hassle :)

    if you're DC and moved to vivec, you'd just end up hating yourself XD. serioulsy DC is too zergy at the moment.
    Edited by Lucky28 on January 9, 2018 12:27AM
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  • redspecter23
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    I suppose I might have been wrong then. I'm a DC in Shor and find myself hating both AD and EP equally. Maybe I should move to Vivec so I only have to hate EP. Could save myself some hassle :)

    if you're DC and moved to vivec, you'd just end up hating yourself XD. serioulsy DC is too zergy at the moment.

    Meh, playing 6 - 10 man groups against EP zergs on Shor gets old really fast. Every once in a while you have to jump in the zerg just for some mindless revenge.
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    Kush.
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    Cause half of EP is tank DKs and the other half is a bomb blade.

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  • usmcjdking
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    I'm still waiting for the day when I run into an EP with less than 30k health and not in heavy armor.
    Edited by usmcjdking on January 9, 2018 5:23AM
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  • Reverb
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    Because EP is the faction that made it ok to say "I hate Tom Hanks". We will never forgive any of you for that.
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    chris211 wrote: »
    I frankly don't understand why Dc And Ad on Vivec dislike ep so much care to explain please?
    That depends on which EP you are. In the case of Kush, it's because pvdoor is annoying because it requires pvdoor to flip objectives back.

    Beyond that, who hates EP? I mean, aside from me, of course. If it feels that way, it's probably because most of your faction would rather farm AD (with ex-AD) for hours than take back Chalman back from DC.

    Often while Chal is blue, you'll have like 10 EP 'small groups' surfing each other or Drac in optimal builds looking for AD randoms to farm. Even if they're not bunched together, the cumulative effect of those players focusing on AD adds up, making it easier for each group to do its thing. This makes a lot of EP something a little more lame than bankers.

    Every time I play, it's like, "oh there's another ex-AD who has rerolled EP to farm AD on the bridge." It's like they learn to the game well enough to wear something like 7L (I haven't reached that point myself) and switch factions.

    So I guess maybe the EP who get run over at Chal while all that's going on feel like the world is against them. Especially when the EP who are constantly overcompensating and banking log out and the triggered AD pugs push to BRK even though more experienced players would prefer to take the fight to the faction winning the campaign, DC.

    DC groups tend to have a bit more class and take the fight to EP when the sw side of the map isn't putting up much of a fight. I'm speaking generally, of course, because DC also has a lot of groups into banking with AD randoms.

    EP actually has the highest concentration of experienced players in strong builds, but it's not reflected in the scoreboard because of their banking obsession.
    Edited by zyk on January 9, 2018 6:29AM
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    zyk wrote: »
    Often while Chal is blue, you'll have like 10 EP 'small groups' surfing each other or Drac in optimal builds looking for AD randoms to farm. Even if they're not bunched together, the cumulative effect of those players focusing on AD adds up, making it easier for each group to do its thing. This makes a lot of EP something a little more lame than bankers.

    Now, to be fair, we spend most our time these days at Fort Ash, which if I'm not wrong is a DC keep. But for whatever reason we fight more yellows there than blues :P


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    Vilestride wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Often while Chal is blue, you'll have like 10 EP 'small groups' surfing each other or Drac in optimal builds looking for AD randoms to farm. Even if they're not bunched together, the cumulative effect of those players focusing on AD adds up, making it easier for each group to do its thing. This makes a lot of EP something a little more lame than bankers.

    Now, to be fair, we spend most our time these days at Fort Ash, which if I'm not wrong is a DC keep. But for whatever reason we fight more yellows there than blues :P


    Can confirm.

    Can do concentric circles around Nik/Ash at any point of prime time and find Drac. Fun fighting them albeit I very rarely result in a kill - but there are times when I do something fairly clutch.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    It's just how the 2 enemy faction see yours. It's the same on DC and AD. Though, I think DC gets the most hate in this specific campaign. That faction-stacking PvDooring.
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for the day when I run into an EP with less than 30k health and not in heavy armor.

    I think the same thing when I fight DC xDD <3
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for the day when I run into an EP with less than 30k health and not in heavy armor.

    I think the same thing when I fight DC xDD <3

    How have you not run into 15khp hskbret?
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    I hate all the DK block tards.... that troll around doing nothing that make themselves feel strong by holding down the left button.. Meanwhile the rest of your Stam DKs brothers have been suffering with nerfs. .....we have lost most of our class defined meaning because of these guys...Most of them play on vevic...
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  • Kilandros
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    Why does [x] faction always get double teamed by [y,z] factions who also abuse [exploits/lag/unpopular playstyle] to defeat [x] faction?
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    Vilestride wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Often while Chal is blue, you'll have like 10 EP 'small groups' surfing each other or Drac in optimal builds looking for AD randoms to farm. Even if they're not bunched together, the cumulative effect of those players focusing on AD adds up, making it easier for each group to do its thing. This makes a lot of EP something a little more lame than bankers.

    Now, to be fair, we spend most our time these days at Fort Ash, which if I'm not wrong is a DC keep. But for whatever reason we fight more yellows there than blues :P


    DC doesn't really care about Ash if Chalman is red though. But the main corridors around the outposts always have all 3 factions present.

    If we want something to do we usually go hang around chalman gate and get instant action, occasionally too much action lol.
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    Edited by Kartalin on January 9, 2018 7:55PM
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    chris211 wrote: »
    I frankly don't understand why Dc And Ad on Vivec dislike ep so much care to explain please?

    The same reason players think the other two realms are ganging up on your realm. They don't. Log into any other realm and read the zone chat and all the things that people complain about are exactly the same
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Because EP is the faction that made it ok to say "I hate Tom Hanks". We will never forgive any of you for that.

    I laughed at this. Loudly. At work.
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for the day when I run into an EP with less than 30k health and not in heavy armor.

    I think the same thing when I fight DC xDD <3

    How have you not run into 15khp hskbret?

    I mean, every faction has their squishy, baddie players. But damn does DC have a lot of tanks xD
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    It's the same on Xbox EU. AD has the by far highest number of players, which probably is the reason why you see so many "yellow names" on DC characters - which is true especially these days. Now we also have loads of these fortune seeking PVE'ers going to join the AD zerg (yes sir, ZEEEEERG!!!) too, which really doesn't make it any better. They disappear really quick once we gain the upper hand though.

    Then we have the DC, which basically does nothing but running the AD business now. Even those "loyal" to the DC - pushing north east is always the way to go. The main guild(s?) behind DC seems to have become a lot less active, so they are no force to count on these days.
    If there's a matter of emp keeps, either getting or losing emp - both DC and AD show up in full force to prevent EP from holding or getting emp. This really isn't the case the other way around, on the contrary DC/AD helps the other get or at least hold emp if EP are about to dethrone/get emp. The more active players even direct the randoms around in area chat, so there's no hiding it. There's a lot of video evidence for this, and their players occasionally show up in EP to ridicule and cheer on about what they are doing.
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    As an AD my only issue with EP is all of the rerolls because people can’t handle a “harder fight”. Then get the hate tells from former AD thinking they are good for moving to the path of least resistance. It figures that when you move to the northeast you become a snowflake.
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    I don't think it's the re rolls that are getting people on the snowflake alert. A lot of us play all 3 factions mainly cuz that's were our friends play.

    Now I'm not saying it's fun farming AD on vivec but it's also fun farming DC so it goes both ways. Would it be fun to go against the friends I play with on a nightly basis if I was on DC or AD. Sure. It's all fun. I've learnt more from the EP guilds than running with AD and DC.

    But I'll use zyk as a perfect example and no pun intended. Most players that re roll are not going for the winning faction. It's for friends, recruitment, and or they're just tired of the BS of that faction.

    So I guess it's your preference. If you wanna think the re rolls are solely for just to win, I guess you are completely blind!
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