PC/NA Vivec why does ep get so much hate from the other factions?

antihero727

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

I don't think it's the re rolls that are getting people on the snowflake alert. A lot of us play all 3 factions mainly cuz that's were our friends play.

Now I'm not saying it's fun farming AD on vivec but it's also fun farming DC so it goes both ways. Would it be fun to go against the friends I play with on a nightly basis if I was on DC or AD. Sure. It's all fun. I've learnt more from the EP guilds than running with AD and DC.

But I'll use zyk as a perfect example and no pun intended. Most players that re roll are not going for the winning faction. It's for friends, recruitment, and or they're just tired of the BS of that faction.

So I guess it's your preference. If you wanna think the re rolls are solely for just to win, I guess you are completely blind!

The forums are for trolling not actually getting anything constructive done. Your breaking my trolling forum ermision with your ideas. On a serious note I think at this point the mass AD reroll is not just to play with friends but a small amount is. AD has a huge casual population that would rather reroll than get gud.

Ghostbane

AD still has the best da Queen though.

Vilestride

antihero727 wrote: »

On a serious note I think at this point the mass AD reroll is not just to play with friends but a small amount is. AD has a huge casual population that would rather reroll than get gud.

II would say in a lot of cases it's exactly the opposite, AD has a huge casual population so the players who want to 'Git gud' re-roll.

antihero727

Vilestride wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

On a serious note I think at this point the mass AD reroll is not just to play with friends but a small amount is. AD has a huge casual population that would rather reroll than get gud.

II would say in a lot of cases it's exactly the opposite, AD has a huge casual population so the players who want to 'Git gud' re-roll.

They are rerolling to fight casuals to get gud? Makes a lot of sense.

kyle.wilson

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

I don't think it's the re rolls that are getting people on the snowflake alert. A lot of us play all 3 factions mainly cuz that's were our friends play.

Now I'm not saying it's fun farming AD on vivec but it's also fun farming DC so it goes both ways. Would it be fun to go against the friends I play with on a nightly basis if I was on DC or AD. Sure. It's all fun. I've learnt more from the EP guilds than running with AD and DC.

But I'll use zyk as a perfect example and no pun intended. Most players that re roll are not going for the winning faction. It's for friends, recruitment, and or they're just tired of the BS of that faction.

So I guess it's your preference. If you wanna think the re rolls are solely for just to win, I guess you are completely blind!

They play all 3 factions, yet only seem to actively play on the side dominating at that Instant.
I've expressed my disappointment with the AD I know that joined Drac to bomb pugs.

Vilestride

antihero727 wrote: »

Vilestride wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

On a serious note I think at this point the mass AD reroll is not just to play with friends but a small amount is. AD has a huge casual population that would rather reroll than get gud.

II would say in a lot of cases it's exactly the opposite, AD has a huge casual population so the players who want to 'Git gud' re-roll.

They are rerolling to fight casuals to get gud? Makes a lot of sense.

Come on, you're a smarter cookie than that, you know what was implied.

The certain AD I know for example who has been getting a lot of *** for his re-roll did so because he was frustrated with AD not being able to provide the committed PVP environment he was seeking. He takes his PVP seriously and wants to get the best out of himself.

He has, and still actively does attempt to provide this for AD during his time zone. What this person tried to give his faction is not questionable. Unfortunately his advice was never heeded. It's not a matter of taking the path of least resistance, if you knew the circumstances of this particular case then you'd be ignorant to say so. It's a matter of surrounding yourself with like minded people who share your goals. Can't blame a man for that.

Lucky28

kyle.wilson wrote: »

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

I don't think it's the re rolls that are getting people on the snowflake alert. A lot of us play all 3 factions mainly cuz that's were our friends play.

Now I'm not saying it's fun farming AD on vivec but it's also fun farming DC so it goes both ways. Would it be fun to go against the friends I play with on a nightly basis if I was on DC or AD. Sure. It's all fun. I've learnt more from the EP guilds than running with AD and DC.

But I'll use zyk as a perfect example and no pun intended. Most players that re roll are not going for the winning faction. It's for friends, recruitment, and or they're just tired of the BS of that faction.

So I guess it's your preference. If you wanna think the re rolls are solely for just to win, I guess you are completely blind!

They play all 3 factions, yet only seem to actively play on the side dominating at that Instant.
I've expressed my disappointment with the AD I know that joined Drac to bomb pugs.

those players probably left more because AD didn't have guilds which suited them. i mean does anyone really care about winning campaigns anymore?, not so much.

AD just doesn't have those guilds anymore, that's the main problem.

antihero727

Vilestride wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Vilestride wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

On a serious note I think at this point the mass AD reroll is not just to play with friends but a small amount is. AD has a huge casual population that would rather reroll than get gud.

II would say in a lot of cases it's exactly the opposite, AD has a huge casual population so the players who want to 'Git gud' re-roll.

They are rerolling to fight casuals to get gud? Makes a lot of sense.

Come on, you're a smarter cookie than that, you know what was implied.

The certain AD I know for example who has been getting a lot of *** for his re-roll did so because he was frustrated with AD not being able to provide the committed PVP environment he was seeking. He takes his PVP seriously and wants to get the best out of himself.

He has, and still actively does attempt to provide this for AD during his time zone. What this person tried to give his faction is not questionable. Unfortunately his advice was never heeded. It's not a matter of taking the path of least resistance, if you knew the circumstances of this particular case then you'd be ignorant to say so. It's a matter of surrounding yourself with like minded people who share your goals. Can't blame a man for that.

Are your talking about Mr H? If so we had a lot invested into him including myself. I am not being ignorant I am picking on somebody that we spent a lot of time, gold and energy training to be a lead because he had potential. I will pick on him because of this. Losing leads at this point is just a kick while AD is down no matter how it is spun. Don’t worry though AD’s cycle will be up again and EP or DC will be going through the same thing again. It happened to all factions in the Cyrodiil history.

NightbladeMechanics

Ball groups, toxic players, tank races, and they’re always drunk on mead. Get yourselves together, EP.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

all the faction zerging. and the red zerg always looks the most zergiest. i call this the "Crystalized" effect(named after the First EP GO, who was a Zergling).

Telel

Lucky28 wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

I don't think it's the re rolls that are getting people on the snowflake alert. A lot of us play all 3 factions mainly cuz that's were our friends play.

Now I'm not saying it's fun farming AD on vivec but it's also fun farming DC so it goes both ways. Would it be fun to go against the friends I play with on a nightly basis if I was on DC or AD. Sure. It's all fun. I've learnt more from the EP guilds than running with AD and DC.

But I'll use zyk as a perfect example and no pun intended. Most players that re roll are not going for the winning faction. It's for friends, recruitment, and or they're just tired of the BS of that faction.

So I guess it's your preference. If you wanna think the re rolls are solely for just to win, I guess you are completely blind!

They play all 3 factions, yet only seem to actively play on the side dominating at that Instant.
I've expressed my disappointment with the AD I know that joined Drac to bomb pugs.

those players probably left more because AD didn't have guilds which suited them. i mean does anyone really care about winning campaigns anymore?, not so much.

AD just doesn't have those guilds anymore, that's the main problem.

Telel cares. They're also not about to run off and join the side that makes things easier on them. Which is odd because Telel is actually not supposed to be anywhere near the skill level of people who've run off to hide behind more populous factions.

As for people wanting guilds that suit them....

pzschrek

H still leads AD groups, I saw him in there last night doing so.

I've run in his groups and I have a lot of respect for him, he's still doing great work.

If AD wanted to keep him full-time all the time, they should have joined his guild and taken it as seriously as he did. :shrug:

Ley

Since the beginning of ESO I've seen people from each faction ask this same question. I think it's perceived hatred with a touch of poor sportsmanship. Just like when 2 sports teams go up against each other and start talking trash, they don't hate each other necessarily, they're rivals and they're acting like rivals.

Yamakaziing

I like this thread

Yamakaziing

What happens is DC and AD have to faction stack and double up their raids to do anything. And or swap their playstyle to the "Invincible Blobs" that stand in place and survive everything. So pro.. so pro..

I also call them "Snow Plowers" because some don't use destros.. they just faction stack in a blob and plow thru everything without any effort at all. So pro.. so pro..

And yes ep does it too because that's what you have to do now.

Rainraven

Really? I am EP and it doesn't surprise me a bit.

chris211

Yamakaziing wrote: »

What happens is DC and AD have to faction stack and double up their raids to do anything. And or swap their playstyle to the "Invincible Blobs" that stand in place and survive everything. So pro.. so pro..

I also call them "Snow Plowers" because some don't use destros.. they just faction stack in a blob and plow thru everything without any effort at all. So pro.. so pro..

And yes ep does it too because that's what you have to do now.

now days a dc and ad small man is a blob of 60

DisgracefulMind

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Ball groups, toxic players, tank races, and they’re always drunk on mead. Get yourselves together, EP.

*drinks more mead*

ishilb14_ESO

Because we will never forget the tyranny of EP in the past. Whether it be the days of Havoc, IR, and Hijinx, or the days if Haxus and 24/7 Methuselah emp. We will not forgive or forget. EP will be ground to virtual dust by the DC faction stack and there is nothing you can do to stop us.

Yamakaziing

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Because we will never forget the tyranny of EP in the past. Whether it be the days of Havoc, IR, and Hijinx, or the days if Haxus and 24/7 Methuselah emp. We will not forgive or forget. EP will be ground to virtual dust by the DC faction stack and there is nothing you can do to stop us.

Lol think again tides will change soon

VaranisArano

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Because we will never forget the tyranny of EP in the past. Whether it be the days of Havoc, IR, and Hijinx, or the days if Haxus and 24/7 Methuselah emp. We will not forgive or forget. EP will be ground to virtual dust by the DC faction stack and there is nothing you can do to stop us.

Yeah, yeah. We know you had to faction stack in order to stop us. That's, um, pretty sad actually.

Agrippa_Invisus

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Because we will never forget the tyranny of EP in the past. Whether it be the days of Havoc, IR, and Hijinx, or the days if Haxus and 24/7 Methuselah emp. We will not forgive or forget. EP will be ground to virtual dust by the DC faction stack and there is nothing you can do to stop us.

*guffaws loudly*

vamp_emily

I actually like EP. I would like to thank the entire faction for giving me enough AP to buy my Akaviri motifs. Thank you so much for being so squashy.

Also I forgive the EP member that got outplayed and sent this message to me. ( beware foul language )

Yamakaziing

D.C. Are all Noobs... except for those who aren't.

Anazasi

We (speaking for myself of course) hate EP, well at least a certain portion of EP because of the poor sportsmanship. Players T-bagging because they walked into a meteor shower and then calling out a faction push on Alessia because their epeen got hurt. Trust me i got plenty of video footage tonight and fully intend on calling out the EP responsible for the deplorable behavior. Any group wants to complain about DK be my guest. But just remember, You can wipe us were casual players. But when we wipe you it hurts your epeen so much that it often forces you to turn on those "Clumsy" cheats. Sad how some small groups of 12 want to pretend they are somebody in a video game. Don't worry foreskin I got plenty of daisy footage of you tonight. PS your t-bag looks more like a t-pouch. I'm wondering have they even dropped yet?

VaranisArano

Anazasi wrote: »

We (speaking for myself of course) hate EP, well at least a certain portion of EP because of the poor sportsmanship. Players T-bagging because they walked into a meteor shower and then calling out a faction push on Alessia because their epeen got hurt. Trust me i got plenty of video footage tonight and fully intend on calling out the EP responsible for the deplorable behavior. Any group wants to complain about DK be my guest. But just remember, You can wipe us were casual players. But when we wipe you it hurts your epeen so much that it often forces you to turn on those "Clumsy" cheats. Sad how some small groups of 12 want to pretend they are somebody in a video game. Don't worry foreskin I got plenty of daisy footage of you tonight. PS your t-bag looks more like a t-pouch. I'm wondering have they even dropped yet?

Hey, some of us EP aren't fans of the EP players who happily potato to Alessia's hamburger hill any more than you are.

I mean, come on, EP. If you want to dance around Alessia's front door in the middle of all the siege fire without actually setting up sufficient siege of your own, you deserve what happens to you.

Yamakaziing

Yeah I mean... how long do you think the double faction pushing from ad and dc is going to last? Mindlessly pushing until you take something you don't care how much you get wiped. As long as the other faction takes something while all of ep is dealing with the other faction pushing their faces into the wall. It's so sad... The zergs are poor sportsmanship if you can call a video game a sport. But like.. What would you do if I formed a Zerg with all trolly and invincible set up builds and wiped you all day long... you'd cry all day long until you got things nerfed again. And trust me... I know how to form an effective group. You tbag me to prove a point... lol but there's no point to be proven.. I can't counter everything with my playstyle. I don't always use the bis crap because Theres no competition in that. Your complaining to zos has made sure that everything I use gets nerfed. When I tbag you it's because I'm looking for a reaction out of you... and what do you do? You freak out and send troll builds to pummel a solo player lol....I think mission accomplished.. not to mention the bugs and lag many of us are riddled with. ep could win the campaign if they wanted... they are just tired from always winning. DC you are winning because ep let you lol end of story. What I see happening lately... is a real obsession to beat ep... ep gets tired of the incessant double teaming... but it has to happen because of if you don't work as a double team or send your an entire faction to a keep you'll just lose everything... the nightblade crap is a bit absurd right now, give me disorienting Spear back and watch you all drop like flies. Hmmm I wonder why they got rid of it in the first place.... could it because you couldn't handle getting stunned like that? Well... yeah... I gotta deal with 50 of you casting crap disorients on me and fear but templars can't disorient? Please... that is so screwed up and you know it.

Anazasi

Yamakaziing wrote: »

Yeah I mean... how long do you think the double faction pushing from ad and dc is going to last? Mindlessly pushing until you take something you don't care how much you get wiped. As long as the other faction takes something while all of ep is dealing with the other faction pushing their faces into the wall. It's so sad... The zergs are poor sportsmanship if you can call a video game a sport. But like.. What would you do if I formed a Zerg with all trolly and invincible set up builds and wiped you all day long... you'd cry all day long until you got things nerfed again. And trust me... I know how to form an effective group. You tbag me to prove a point... lol but there's no point to be proven.. I can't counter everything with my playstyle. I don't always use the bis crap because Theres no competition in that. Your complaining to zos has made sure that everything I use gets nerfed. When I tbag you it's because I'm looking for a reaction out of you... and what do you do? You freak out and send troll builds to pummel a solo player lol....I think mission accomplished.. not to mention the bugs and lag many of us are riddled with. ep could win the campaign if they wanted... they are just tired from always winning. DC you are winning because ep let you lol end of story. What I see happening lately... is a real obsession to beat ep... ep gets tired of the incessant double teaming... but it has to happen because of if you don't work as a double team or send your an entire faction to a keep you'll just lose everything... the nightblade crap is a bit absurd right now, give me disorienting Spear back and watch you all drop like flies. Hmmm I wonder why they got rid of it in the first place.... could it because you couldn't handle getting stunned like that? Well... yeah... I gotta deal with 50 of you casting crap disorients on me and fear but templars can't disorient? Please... that is so screwed up and you know it.

It was removed because ZOS couldn't stop the spears disorient from hard locking or hard CC'ing players. Yeah it sucks I agree but what do you want to have happen? More hard cc's in game so you can never get out? The issue isn't about numbers it's about community. If you want clean fights than learn how to treat other players with some dignity and courtesy. Start reporting your faction players that are cheating by using exploitable mechanics or third party software; we all know who the macro users are. We all know who the clumsy lag switch users are, why don't you? Make an effort to clean up your own faction before you complain about the others. It's really easy instead of t-bagging just move on. Instead of sending hate whispers just move on. EP asks to get zerged every night because they have no morales. They do have a huge e-peen which is evident in your post and frankly all the e-peen in the world succumbs to attrition eventually. But i hear e-peen is a great real world commodity if only you get out of the basement.

Kilandros

Anazasi wrote: »

Yamakaziing wrote: »

Yeah I mean... how long do you think the double faction pushing from ad and dc is going to last? Mindlessly pushing until you take something you don't care how much you get wiped. As long as the other faction takes something while all of ep is dealing with the other faction pushing their faces into the wall. It's so sad... The zergs are poor sportsmanship if you can call a video game a sport. But like.. What would you do if I formed a Zerg with all trolly and invincible set up builds and wiped you all day long... you'd cry all day long until you got things nerfed again. And trust me... I know how to form an effective group. You tbag me to prove a point... lol but there's no point to be proven.. I can't counter everything with my playstyle. I don't always use the bis crap because Theres no competition in that. Your complaining to zos has made sure that everything I use gets nerfed. When I tbag you it's because I'm looking for a reaction out of you... and what do you do? You freak out and send troll builds to pummel a solo player lol....I think mission accomplished.. not to mention the bugs and lag many of us are riddled with. ep could win the campaign if they wanted... they are just tired from always winning. DC you are winning because ep let you lol end of story. What I see happening lately... is a real obsession to beat ep... ep gets tired of the incessant double teaming... but it has to happen because of if you don't work as a double team or send your an entire faction to a keep you'll just lose everything... the nightblade crap is a bit absurd right now, give me disorienting Spear back and watch you all drop like flies. Hmmm I wonder why they got rid of it in the first place.... could it because you couldn't handle getting stunned like that? Well... yeah... I gotta deal with 50 of you casting crap disorients on me and fear but templars can't disorient? Please... that is so screwed up and you know it.

It was removed because ZOS couldn't stop the spears disorient from hard locking or hard CC'ing players. Yeah it sucks I agree but what do you want to have happen? More hard cc's in game so you can never get out? The issue isn't about numbers it's about community. If you want clean fights than learn how to treat other players with some dignity and courtesy. Start reporting your faction players that are cheating by using exploitable mechanics or third party software; we all know who the macro users are. We all know who the clumsy lag switch users are, why don't you? Make an effort to clean up your own faction before you complain about the others. It's really easy instead of t-bagging just move on. Instead of sending hate whispers just move on. EP asks to get zerged every night because they have no morales. They do have a huge e-peen which is evident in your post and frankly all the e-peen in the world succumbs to attrition eventually. But i hear e-peen is a great real world commodity if only you get out of the basement.

Did you get my application for part-time DK raid lead????

Yamakaziing

Oh here we go now we talking about morals online.. okay well I'll just say this one last thing on... change up Disorienting Spear. Don't remove it all together because you can't handle it