Also, so many things like Double Take v. Mirage and Dark Cloak v. Shadowy Disguise are so subjective. Not sure how you could advise one over another without more information.

With the build/skill suggestions I had followed the choices of the Elemental Mage build and then by the healer which chooses 2 different morphs of the Conjured Ward skill, there is no message or tooltip explaining the need to reset the skill morphs, I think this would be useful for new players.

I found the skill suggestions basic but a good general set up, with the most common skills players use. However there is only 50 points allocated, and some skills are selected to level the skill line but then not morphed and this is not explained in a tooltip that these skills are for leveling or unlocking later skills not for using the skills themselves such as the volatile familiar in the Elemental mage build. This is important otherwise new players may choose morphs or passive for these skills when they don't need them for the build.

I understand you are making just a basic build to get players started but you earn 64 skill points in the 50 levels just for levelling up.

I like the advised and not advised message on the morphs however i don't like the warning icon if you choose a different morph then to the one suggested.

This isn't so much an "advisor" as it is a list of skills that fall into the selected role, with the idea being "Get these skills then read them and figure out on your own how this build is suppose to work".

Elemental Arcanist selected, that's magicka damage; 13 skills, 3 skills are non-damage (2 shields), 8 skill have advised morphs (others don't need morphs apparently). No passive skills were advised. No healing skills were advised. No explanation as to why those skills were advised.

Why were no healing abilities suggested? I get that this is a multiplayer game and eventually you'll be partied with healers but 95% of your content is solo PvE, we have to be able to heal ourselves somehow. Are we suppose to stack the damage shields (neither of which were Steadfast Ward)? Halfway through I equipped a healing staff to see if the skills would change but they didn't, still just gives damage skills. Are we suppose to change the selected build to get healing skills? If so, maybe you should implement major/minor build system. i.e. I want to be mainly damage dealing with self-healing, then suggest some healing skills (like Steadfast Ward in place of one of the other shields).

Unstable Familiar was advised but has no hint that it needs to be on both bars so it won't unsummon when the weapon is swapped. No morph advised for it.

Elemental Storm was advised, but no morph for it. Considering the build is called Elemental Arcanist I'd think you'd advise a morph for Elemental Storm.

You said your idea was to help new players, and I encourage that type of help (I want that help myself since I'm not the best player so I will take all the help I can get), but this misses the mark. New players are better off not getting this game-supplied help, having no advice forces them to ask friends and guild mates so they get proper info and get directed to useful websites that explain the build and how it works.

I think this system could be really good, but it needs a lot more work.

liquid lighting and crystal fragment being ill advised ... that made me laugh irl

seriously, this needs fixing

Am I missing something. I like that I can hit the gear and see five build options, Initiate, Mag DPS, Stam DPS, Tank, and healer. But it looks mostly like a long list of active skill and passives I've already spent a point on and three recommendations.

This system should be awesome till lvl 30-40.

I tested it pour a Sorcerer and propose Magsorc / Stamsorc / MagTank or Magheal in a way show the new players that ESO is not a MMO like others.

BUT

He can't discover this for is how with this systems.

In the same time, the advisor show the skills and passive BUT not explain more than we read without the assistant.

For example, if you take the MagTank, when do you explain that IceStaff can taunt ennemies.
A new player will take automaticly a sword and a shield and raise the skills but in this case, the advisor will not propose the Staff.

Morning! I think this is a fairly good start to an adviser system that could be expanded slightly to be really good for users.

Did you try any of the advanced builds? If so, what did you think of them?
I went with the stamina build DK, wasn't too far off, but it didn't include some of the meta info most look for. For example a lot if the fighters guild stuff seemed ignored.


Was there any point where you were confused, or didn’t know where to spend skill points?
No, most of thst was straight forward.

If you completed a suggested build, what did you think of the total package of abilities?
Most of it seemed close to what I do now

Do you have any other general feedback?
Yes, mostly to expand and focus less on the builds. How to expand

- Let players input custom build advisors. So someone wants to load an Alcast build or their buddies in guild give them a build to follow, they have an idea where to go with their class.
- Give advise based on the content. Give players options like "solo PVE", "group dungeon", "PVP", and other modes and help them build a bar of abilities. Possibly give indicators on a rotation as well.
- Setup the advisor to help with armor This doesn't need to track sets necessarily, but give a heads up if they are wearing 4 medium instead of 5, if they have a 1h sword in one hand and no shield, etc. If coupled with a custom build advisors they can handle explaining the meta.

Now a lot of the above ideas could be done with a mod, but it would be interesting to see it done straight into the UI.

Thanks for your time.

Did you try any of the advanced builds? If so, what did you think of them?

I started a new NB character. I selected the Deathweaver advanced build in skills adviser at the very start, and have followed it's advise regarding skill point allocation.

At no point has Skills Adviser suggested I buy Veiled Strike. Consequently, the Shadow skill line has so far had zero xp allocated to it.

I have now reached level 4. Skills Adviser is suggesting I buy Refreshing Shadows. This doesn't unlock till Rank 8 in the Shadow skill line.

I think it would be best if Skills Adviser suggested the purchase of Veiled Strike before this point is reached in a NB Deathweaver's career.

I guess I'll have to use my own knowledge of the game here, ignore skills advisor, and buy Veiled Strike with my next skill point.

On a first glance (looked at a sorc first) the skills advisor looks rather solid to me, with good suggestions. It is a bit confusing that the beginner build is always selected first, even on exisiting, max level characters and it is not too obvious that there are more builds to choose from. This is something that could be improved.

Also, I do think it would be helpful if the advisor didn't only say a certain morph is ill-advised for the selected build but also explain why. E.g. I have the Empowered Ward on my magicka sorcerer, who is a DD. If I select the Elemental Arcanist it tells me I should respec to the Hardened Ward morph. If I select the healer build, however, it is fine with my choice. Personally I simply prefer to have more recovery over an even stronger shield, but for players learning the game it would be more helpful if the tooltip stated that a high recovery value is especially important for healers, while damage dealers, who are more in the heat of a fight and have less healing skills, have better survival chances with a stronger shield.
This would help them learn and create builds of their own in the future without the advisor.

And it might be a nice idea to include champion points in the advisor or just mention in the skill tooltips which champions points a skill benefits from.

I was not able to determine which abilities it wanted slotted on which bars. Granted, I was only able to mess around with my lowbie Warden, so I may be missing something here.