What are all of your thoughts on making a tank build specifically for dungeons?
Ebon/Alkosh/Lord Warden . While tanking pledges , what I do is this . Run to boss from start . Pull everything that still follows you to boss . Pop a synergy for Alkosh . Everyone drops ultimates with warhorn . Protect team from getting bursted down with Lord Warden and Ebon . Kill boss . Run to next boss . Repeat until dungeon is over . 5-15 minutes clear time depending on which dungeon .
Ebon/Alkosh/Lord Warden . While tanking pledges , what I do is this . Run to boss from start . Pull everything that still follows you to boss . Pop a synergy for Alkosh . Everyone drops ultimates with warhorn . Protect team from getting bursted down with Lord Warden and Ebon . Kill boss . Run to next boss . Repeat until dungeon is over . 5-15 minutes clear time depending on which dungeon .
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Ebon/Alkosh/Lord Warden . While tanking pledges , what I do is this . Run to boss from start . Pull everything that still follows you to boss . Pop a synergy for Alkosh . Everyone drops ultimates with warhorn . Protect team from getting bursted down with Lord Warden and Ebon . Kill boss . Run to next boss . Repeat until dungeon is over . 5-15 minutes clear time depending on which dungeon .
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
Lol voting to kick tank. That is rich.
Maura_Neysa wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Ebon/Alkosh/Lord Warden . While tanking pledges , what I do is this . Run to boss from start . Pull everything that still follows you to boss . Pop a synergy for Alkosh . Everyone drops ultimates with warhorn . Protect team from getting bursted down with Lord Warden and Ebon . Kill boss . Run to next boss . Repeat until dungeon is over . 5-15 minutes clear time depending on which dungeon .
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
Lol voting to kick tank. That is rich.
Yep they'll do that. I personally would vote in favor. That kind of thing is annoying to me, and yes I main a Tank, and yes I understand why people do that. Go for it, l wouldn't iniate the vote, just vote in favor if someone else did.
Always run Ebon.
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
Wrong. Any dps worth their salt would gladly sacrifice 1k health for something to increase efficiency. I main a Templar healer, and I have never noticed a difference healing a group that had Ebon buff, to healing a group without it.
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
Wrong. Any dps worth their salt would gladly sacrifice 1k health for something to increase efficiency. I main a Templar healer, and I have never noticed a difference healing a group that had Ebon buff, to healing a group without it.
Ebon has nothing to do with healing . It is there to prevent your teammates from getting one-shotted .
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
Don't pug . Problem solved .
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
Wrong. Any dps worth their salt would gladly sacrifice 1k health for something to increase efficiency. I main a Templar healer, and I have never noticed a difference healing a group that had Ebon buff, to healing a group without it.
Ebon has nothing to do with healing . It is there to prevent your teammates from getting one-shotted .
great for a coordinated group.
in pug they yell at you for running ahead then vote kick you.
Don't pug . Problem solved .
Teammates having across the board 1k extra life has everything to do with healing. If you think health totals have nothing to do with healing, perhaps try healing a tank over healing a dps...
That being said, my point was that in the off-chance someone dies, anecdotally I can say 99% of the time the extra 1k health made no difference (by their own Death recap). I’m sure I’ll get mathed on how wrong I am and how it make sure X amount of difference, but vet trials, and especially HM, completely unnoticeable. From a healing standpoint, and from my viewpoint as a dps with or without the extra health.
Teammates having across the board 1k extra life has everything to do with healing. If you think health totals have nothing to do with healing, perhaps try healing a tank over healing a dps...
That being said, my point was that in the off-chance someone dies, anecdotally I can say 99% of the time the extra 1k health made no difference (by their own Death recap). I’m sure I’ll get mathed on how wrong I am and how it make sure X amount of difference, but vet trials, and especially HM, completely unnoticeable. From a healing standpoint, and from my viewpoint as a dps with or without the extra health.
Teammates having across the board 1k extra life has everything to do with healing. If you think health totals have nothing to do with healing, perhaps try healing a tank over healing a dps...
That being said, my point was that in the off-chance someone dies, anecdotally I can say 99% of the time the extra 1k health made no difference (by their own Death recap). I’m sure I’ll get mathed on how wrong I am and how it make sure X amount of difference, but vet trials, and especially HM, completely unnoticeable. From a healing standpoint, and from my viewpoint as a dps with or without the extra health.
I am not comparing healing a tank and healing a dps . We are talking about one-shots . I've seen many , many times Ebon saving lifes . Sometimes several times in a single run . You cannot outheal one-shots . Only thing that can save from one-shot is mitigation and Max Health . That's all . From one-shot , I mean many hard-hitting attacks connecting exactly at the same time . So , how can Ebon have an effect on healing ?
You do have correct points but they do not apply to everyone . For example , while I am tanking pledges or whatever 4-man content , it becomes literally harder than some HM trials . I pull everything on boss , risk of getting one-shot on teammates is high , Ebon saves my groupmates a lot of times in almost every run . If I was just casually tanking trash packs one by one , I wouldn't even consider using Ebon . But I don't . That's why I use Ebon . This setup gives me the fastest clear times in pledges so I don't spend my time with the pledges . Makes easy content harder and challenging .
I run Torug's Pact + Plague Doctor/Ebon on my tank.
An infused Torug's Pact weapon with the Crusher enchant really helps boost the dps of the group.
paulsimonps wrote: »I run Torug's Pact + Plague Doctor/Ebon on my tank.
An infused Torug's Pact weapon with the Crusher enchant really helps boost the dps of the group.
I do the same, or sometimes I do Torug's Alkosh but that is mostly in Trials where the difficulty allows it. Normally I just got Torug's Ebon cause of how effective it is all around, can't go bad with it and still works great regardless of if you have pugs or preformed team.
Sooooo many times I have seen Ebon save lives on stuff like Spindleclutch 1 or Banished Cells 1 last bosses with their untauntable one shot skills. Its why I only really swap to other things in Bloodroot Forge last boss, swap to Plague, cause he hits really hard and the others don't really get hit if they move right, never PUG DLC Dungeons.
s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »The "ideal" tank for vet dungeons is a heal/tank that can run with 3 DPS.
However, you will really only run this with dedicated vet dungeon groups (with friends or guild mates). If you are pugging, I suppose the ideal tank would be one that can quickly see the strengths and weaknesses of the current group and adjust accordingly.
Maura_Neysa wrote: »s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »The "ideal" tank for vet dungeons is a heal/tank that can run with 3 DPS.
However, you will really only run this with dedicated vet dungeon groups (with friends or guild mates). If you are pugging, I suppose the ideal tank would be one that can quickly see the strengths and weaknesses of the current group and adjust accordingly.
An overpowered class and some how the weakest class at what 90% of the people who play do... PvE DPS... Your math is highly questionable.
You know where it does excel? At the thing the least people in the game do... Tanking. Maybe not BiS but at least actual competition for it.