Game for Russian speakers

lenar40484 · January 2018

The game is amazing! I did not have to enjoy such a variety in the game before. She wants to come back again and again. The only thing that repels is the lack of translation into Russian. There is an amateur translation, but I'm sure that it will not be complete, the more you announced 4 DLS in 2018. Make a gift in the New Year to the fans of the game in Russia, translate it for us.

(Игра потрясающая! Мне раньше не приходилось пользоваться таким разнообразием в игре. В неё хочется вернуться снова и снова. Единственное, что отталкивает - это отсутствие перевода на русский язык. Есть любительский перевод, но я уверен, что он не будет полным, тем более вы объявили 4 DLS в 2018 году. Слелайте подарок в Новом году поклонникам игры в России, переведите её для нас.)

Magdalina · January 2018

'Tis a perfect opportunity to practice your English though

(Прекрасная возможность попрактиковать английский

)

Huyen · January 2018

No offense to the russian people, but I think its time you guys adapt more to the rest of the world. I live in the netherlands, and dont get a dutch translation either (nor do I want to but thats a different story).

Radinyn · January 2018

We poles make our own translation!

Magdalina · January 2018

Huyen wrote: »

No offense to the russian people, but I think its time you guys adapt more to the rest of the world. I live in the netherlands, and dont get a dutch translation either (nor do I want to but thats a different story).

It's still not that common here to speak English well. To be fair, part of the blame lies on the educational system, while technically most people study English for 10(!) years at school it's set up so badly most people barely know how to say "hi my name is N" after that.

I do agree with you though, there're many other ways to learn a language, especially one as simple as English

It's a LOT easier than Russian lol.

GrigorijMalahevich · January 2018

Never bothered with Russian translations, though, I am Russian... The original version of everything is always better (movies, music?!, games, books (I’ve tried to read John Polonick in Russian and started to bleed out of my eyes on page 4), etc...).

So, it is time to gitgud and learn some English, whilst enjoying this great game.

P.S. On EU server I see more and more Russian language in zone chat, however, most of them are horrible players...

Magdalina · January 2018

Valera Progib wrote: »

Never bothered with Russian translations, though, I am Russian... The original version of everything is always better (movies, music?!, games, books (I’ve tried to read John Polonick in Russian and started to bleed out of my eyes on page 4), etc...).

So, it is time to gitgud and learn some English, whilst enjoying this great game.

P.S. On EU server I see more and more Russian language in zone chat, however, most of them are horrible players...

...most of those are terrible Russian speakers as well. They're making my brain hurt x_x

And yes. Original versions are better in 99/100 cases.

Ermiq · January 2018

Radinyn wrote: »

We poles make our own translation!

Just like we Russians do. We've got fan-made translation (though there's just 50% of the game translated so far).

However, it would be much better if we've got an official translation. Russian, Polish, Portugues, Spanish are popular european languages just like German and French are.
I wonder why the game that published world-wide still has 3 languages support only?

Топикстартеру: я тоже такие вопросы задавал. Но сейчас уже надежды на перевод нет, к сожалению. Они ни на нас, ни на поляков с испанцами внимания не обращают.

Morvane · January 2018

Please no! 1 cever russian on 99 not clever because they have russian client... no. please, no

Короче, перевожу для местных. Английский клиент - это барьер для 80% школоты и быдла. И то, он уже снесен из-за руэсо.

Learn english and have a good time in Tamriel!

Rosveen · January 2018

Huyen wrote: »

No offense to the russian people, but I think its time you guys adapt more to the rest of the world. I live in the netherlands, and dont get a dutch translation either (nor do I want to but thats a different story).

I suppose you never read any books translated to Dutch and always watch movies without subtitles. You are also a staunch proponent of removing the German and French versions of the game because they're a waste of time and resources. In fact, you oppose any and all translation of art and entertainment because it's quite unnecessary; after all, everyone in the world has access to high-quality education and speaks fluent English.

Honestly, I don't know why languages other than English even exist.

EvilCroc · January 2018

Learn English already.

Marabornwingrion · January 2018

Eremith wrote: »

Radinyn wrote: »

We poles make our own translation!

However, it would be much better if we've got an official translation. Russian, Polish, Portugues, Spanish are popular european languages just like German and French are.
I wonder why the game that published world-wide still has 3 languages support only?

I speak Polish but even if there would be a official polish translation I'd still use English one.

Strider__Roshin · January 2018

Remember, "no Russian"...

PlautisCarvain · January 2018

EvilCroc wrote: »

Learn English already.

No

emilyhyoyeon · January 2018

if not english what about other languages that are easier for OP to understand? maybe german/french? idk what the standard second language taught in Russia is

Linaleah · January 2018

мой русский немного заржавевший, но из любопытства и чтоб себя помучать - послушала я на ютубе несколко оффициальных русских переводов популярных игр. кошмар, ужас у позор. В лучшем случае - оффициальный перевод будет примерно таково качества как любительский. но скорее всево, как перевод на английский в начале этой цепочки - они просто техт пропустят через гугл, не особо проверив если нормально перевелось. любители хоть за качество болеют. и птс дает возможность перевести заранее.

my russian is a bit rusty, but out of curiosity and to torture myself, I listened to some of the official localizations on youtube. the horror, the atrocity, the shame.... best case scenario - official translation will be roughly the same quality as the fan mod, but most likely, just like OP - they will push it through google translate and not even double check if translation is good. at least mod makers have a stake in a quality as players themselves. and PTS gives them an opportunity to get started on translations in advance of official release.

Jade1986 · January 2018

Rosveen wrote: »

Huyen wrote: »

No offense to the russian people, but I think its time you guys adapt more to the rest of the world. I live in the netherlands, and dont get a dutch translation either (nor do I want to but thats a different story).

I suppose you never read any books translated to Dutch and always watch movies without subtitles. You are also a staunch proponent of removing the German and French versions of the game because they're a waste of time and resources. In fact, you oppose any and all translation of art and entertainment because it's quite unnecessary; after all, everyone in the world has access to high-quality education and speaks fluent English.

Honestly, I don't know why languages other than English even exist.

I think they do the languages in the biggest population for their game. So I am assuming most players are English, German, or French. That is only a major assumption though. : shrug :

To be fair though. The two most spoken languages are english and chinese. And I would rather learn english, lol.

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 2018

There's a Japanese version as well, don't forget.

ESO is a commercial enterprise. Those 4 languages are supported because they are used by a very large number of people who have a high disposable income and who live in countries where the video games market is very well established.

It costs a very large amount of money to localise a game as enormous as ESO. The company would need to see a worthwhile and risk-free return on that investment. I guess they just don't think there's any profit in adding any other languages.

I suspect that localised versions for Russia and China are ruled out, at least in part, because of the risk that trading with those countries may become illegal for US companies once again.

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

Linaleah · January 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

every single post in this thread with russian text in it - has English translation already added (English text you see is a translation of Russian text). granted, OP's translation is likely something off google translate, since a few words are off. but.. you can still get the gist of it.

duendology · January 2018

One of the reasons I don't play on EU server... rude and obnoxious Russian players..
I've got bad experience from other mmos

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

every single post in this thread with russian text in it - has English translation already added (English text you see is a translation of Russian text). granted, OP's translation is likely something off google translate, since a few words are off. but.. you can still get the gist of it.

Where's the LOL button when you really need it.

An outrageous bluff, but I'm afraid it won't work on me.

There are some Westerners who read Russian you know.

lenar40484 · January 2018

...and yet I believe that the translation of the game into other languages, including Russian, is needed. It is enough only quality translation of the text. Financial costs in any case pay off. This game is not for a couple of months, but for years ...

(и всё же я считаю, что перевод игры на другие языки, в том числе русский, нужен. Достаточно только качественный перевод текста. Финансовые затраты в любом случае окупятся. Эта игра ведь не на пару месяцев, а на годы...)

Ashamray · January 2018

Valera Progib wrote: »

Never bothered with Russian translations, though, I am Russian... The original version of everything is always better (movies, music?!, games, books (I’ve tried to read John Polonick in Russian and started to bleed out of my eyes on page 4), etc...).

So, it is time to gitgud and learn some English, whilst enjoying this great game.

P.S. On EU server I see more and more Russian language in zone chat, however, most of them are horrible players...

Blame translator of the book you've read. Good understanding of foreign language is not enough for translation - you should also know your own.

Indeed we have rueso to use, and sometimes it's good for quests translations, because there are some nice guys that know Russian grammar and stylistics but tooltips for skills and sets are just terrible lol

logarifmik · January 2018

duendology wrote: »

One of the reasons I don't play on EU server... rude and obnoxious Russian players..
I've got bad experience from other mmos

I bet you met a lot of Russian players, but didn't get it, because they spoke in English. Don't judge the whole nation by black sheep. You see, I'm Russian... but players think that I'm French more often.

I play this game for almost 2 years, and one of the main reasons why this MMO still didn't disappointed me is benevolent and mature community. Of course, I met some *** complex persons in-game, but they were Russians only once, alright? Maybe it was luck, or maybe it is my typical Russian stress resistance, but percentage of unpleasant situations in ESO is almost zero in my case.

Regarding OP's translation request. My opinion, we don't need one. For those who не может в английский, fan translation of quite high quality already exists. For now lack of the official translation works as a barrier wall for undesirable potential players, as it was said previously in this thread. Less ruffians entails more healthy community.

Linaleah wrote: »

my russian is a bit rusty, but out of curiosity and to torture myself, I listened to some of the official localizations on youtube. the horror, the atrocity, the shame.... best case scenario - official translation will be roughly the same quality as the fan mod, but most likely, just like OP - they will push it through google translate and not even double check if translation is good. at least mod makers have a stake in a quality as players themselves. and PTS gives them an opportunity to get started on translations in advance of official release.

Sorry, but you are wrong. There are plenty of outstanding translations, which you most likely have missed, because of the conformation bias effect, I suppose. Keep in mind that it's almost impossible to translate from one language to another without losing existing in the original text associative context. Sometimes particular context doesn't even exist in the language to which you trying to translate something. The most obvious example is a wordplay, or an idiom, or whatever else exclusive any language have.

Ermiq · January 2018

logarifmik wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

my russian is a bit rusty, but out of curiosity and to torture myself, I listened to some of the official localizations on youtube. the horror, the atrocity, the shame.... best case scenario - official translation will be roughly the same quality as the fan mod, but most likely, just like OP - they will push it through google translate and not even double check if translation is good. at least mod makers have a stake in a quality as players themselves. and PTS gives them an opportunity to get started on translations in advance of official release.

Sorry, but you are wrong. There are plenty of outstanding translations, which you most likely have missed, because of the conformation bias effect, I suppose. Keep in mind that it's almost impossible to translate from one language to another without losing existing in the original text associative context. Sometimes particular context doesn't even exist in the language to which you trying to translate something. The most obvious example is a wordplay, or idiom, or whatever else exclusive any language have.

Когда кто-то начинает говорить о переводе игр, я всегда вспоминаю фанатский перевод Bioshock: Infinite. Эта фраза "Букер, ты боишься Бога?" на русском просто потрясающе звучит. И таких переводов немало.

When someone's talking about translation in games I always remember fan-made translation for Bioshock: Infinite. That "Booker, are you afraid of god?.." in Russain is truly awesome. There're many games with very good and high quality translation.

lenar40484 wrote: »

...and yet I believe that the translation of the game into other languages, including Russian, is needed. It is enough only quality translation of the text. Financial costs in any case pay off. This game is not for a couple of months, but for years ...

(и всё же я считаю, что перевод игры на другие языки, в том числе русский, нужен. Достаточно только качественный перевод текста. Финансовые затраты в любом случае окупятся. Эта игра ведь не на пару месяцев, а на годы...)

Agree. There's no need in voice acting at all. Text translation would be enough.

Ashamray wrote: »

Indeed we have rueso to use, and sometimes it's good for quests translations, because there are some nice guys that know Russian grammar and stylistics but tooltips for skills and sets are just terrible lol

What's wrong with tooltips? They're translated quite correctly and I hadn't any misunderstood there.

Milvan · January 2018

As a Latin American I feel you. We don't have spanish neither portuguese translations.

Btw, I would like to point it out that I'm totally against fan made translations because ZOS spent a lot of money FULLY TRANSLATING the game to german, french, and japanese, why should fans do it for free?

And to all "learn english" imperalist bs, in the last 5 years mostly AAA titles comes with spanish and portuguese translation. Companies are learning that there is great market out there. They are learning our languages, not the other way around and I think that it's amazing.

Zenimax Media and it's subsidiaries took quite a while to acknowledge that but all their titles nowdays are coming with amazing portuguese and spanish translations. It's a shame that ESO didn't came up with this feature.

I also love Russian and Chinese activism pro translation. Especially on Steam where they massive downvote a game because it lacks their translation. I wish the latin americans were much more active like that.

Linaleah · January 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

every single post in this thread with russian text in it - has English translation already added (English text you see is a translation of Russian text). granted, OP's translation is likely something off google translate, since a few words are off. but.. you can still get the gist of it.

Where's the LOL button when you really need it.

An outrageous bluff, but I'm afraid it won't work on me.

There are some Westerners who read Russian you know.

yes and I'm one of them. my post has one paragraph in russian and another in english. they are the same text in 2 languages. OP's post is the same - english and russian version of the same text

and so are the rest of the posts with one exception where one sentence is addressed specifically to OP and not directly translated - it goes something like "I wish they would translated, but apparently they have forgotten about russians, polish and spanish - which is not to dissimilar from a sentiment expressed earlier in that same reply. so please. do try again. I. Don't. BLUFF.

@ Logarifmik - fan translations, possibly. official translations though tend to suck, though I will say, a lot of that is just awful AWFUL voice acting. I'm sorry, I don't know what the heck happened to russian actors recently but so many of them still filming in russia are just... godawful. and its not the perception change for me, I still adore older russian movies and there is an occasional new one that is great, but most of them? are not. I do get it that it can be hard to translate context from one language to another. having struggled to translate some of the jokes for my english speaking friends, I get it intimately. but its not impossible. its been done. heck, I have read books in russian that were BETTER than their english originals, due to translator being awesome. (old translations of O'Henry come to mind) its just a lot of translators are not awesome lately and instead just do a bare minimum, instead of trying to understand context and translate according to context rather then word for word.

and to verify, games that are originally made in russian and then localized into english are a WHOLE different story. Metro comes to mind. although its also the only series of game that I prefer in Russian, to be honest.

in any case, all I'm saying is that fan translations tend to do it better anyways. official stuff has been lacking for years. I have tried watching some new stuff but its just... christ... so bad. OP is asking for official translation. and I think we should just keep leaving it to fan mods. I mean... unless ZoS hires the fan translators to do the localization for them... that could work. just... sorry, not a fan of recent official russian stuff, even Witcher 3 was pissing me off every time they mispronounced Ciri's name

it was one of the better translations to be sure, probably helps that its such a big deal in Eastern Europe, but still.

(and by the way when I say rusty, I mean I don't speak it all that often anymore, outside of my family, and i might not be caught up with all the new internet slang, though My SO is and he translates as needed, but I do still read and understand perfectly. for what its worth - its my first language and its kinda hard to forget)

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

every single post in this thread with russian text in it - has English translation already added (English text you see is a translation of Russian text). granted, OP's translation is likely something off google translate, since a few words are off. but.. you can still get the gist of it.

Where's the LOL button when you really need it.

An outrageous bluff, but I'm afraid it won't work on me.

There are some Westerners who read Russian you know.

yes and I'm one of them. my post has one paragraph in russian and another in english. they are the same text in 2 languages. OP's post is the same - english and russian version of the same text

and so are the rest of the posts with one exception where one sentence is addressed specifically to OP and not directly translated - it goes something like "I wish they would translated, but apparently they have forgotten about russians, polish and spanish - which is not to dissimilar from a sentiment expressed earlier in that same reply. so please. do try again. I. Don't. BLUFF.

How about this one? Even the numbers are different. You don't have to understand Russian to see that!

Morvane wrote: »

Please no! 1 cever russian on 99 not clever because they have russian client... no. please, no

Короче, перевожу для местных. Английский клиент - это барьер для 80% школоты и быдла. И то, он уже снесен из-за руэсо.

Learn english and have a good time in Tamriel!

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · January 2018

With offense from a RO to RU...its time to learn English and stop asking for translations...I have nothing against Russians/French/Germans and other people but having them asking in zone chat in their own language and expecting someone to ever even bother to reply gets annoying after 1st year...and im here since launch...yet I have no issues trading with other ppl who don't know English I think it is time for the rest of the world to join the club and learn what is common language...

Linaleah · January 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

In regard to the Russian language posts on this thread, I think it would help if the Russian posters actually translated the Russian portion of their posts into English. Perhaps one of the more fluent English speakers among them could do it. I'm sure the mods would appreciate it.

every single post in this thread with russian text in it - has English translation already added (English text you see is a translation of Russian text). granted, OP's translation is likely something off google translate, since a few words are off. but.. you can still get the gist of it.

Where's the LOL button when you really need it.

An outrageous bluff, but I'm afraid it won't work on me.

There are some Westerners who read Russian you know.

yes and I'm one of them. my post has one paragraph in russian and another in english. they are the same text in 2 languages. OP's post is the same - english and russian version of the same text

and so are the rest of the posts with one exception where one sentence is addressed specifically to OP and not directly translated - it goes something like "I wish they would translated, but apparently they have forgotten about russians, polish and spanish - which is not to dissimilar from a sentiment expressed earlier in that same reply. so please. do try again. I. Don't. BLUFF.

How about this one? Even the numbers are different. You don't have to understand Russian to see that!

Morvane wrote: »

Please no! 1 cever russian on 99 not clever because they have russian client... no. please, no

Короче, перевожу для местных. Английский клиент - это барьер для 80% школоты и быдла. И то, он уже снесен из-за руэсо.

Learn english and have a good time in Tamriel!

the meaning is the same. the translation into english is not great but the meaning is the same (its the whole, languages don't translate word for word thing - catching the overall meaning is more important) and the meaning is that supposedly having no Russian client prevents idiots from playing the game. same type argument that's made against f2p games actualy.

Woeler · January 2018

It's time for people to stop pretending speaking English isn't a mandatory skill in the modern world.