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End game PvE content
Stinkyremy
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We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
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✭It may be time to take a break from the game. It sounds like your burned out, and a break may be just what you need to continue to enjoy the game in the future.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Have you cleared all the vet trials? The next step is vet trial hard modes, with the hardest being vAS+2. Also you can try for some unique achievements in trials, like Fang Focused or Void Avoided in vMoL. After completing all of that your main option is refining strategy and practicing to compete for leaderboard scores.1 -
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✭✭✭✭PvP is the real end-game unless you want to PvE leaderboard chase. That's not my gig though.9 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »It may be time to take a break from the game. It sounds like your burned out, and a break may be just what you need to continue to enjoy the game in the future.
Yeah I have taken a few weeks off over the holidays, despite the event, which I did last year.
All I have left is trial gear to get. Other than that it is just in game achievements.
I would like to see a more harder overland content tbh, something like how craglorn was originally, but not having group areas.
I know the grind for gear "is" endgame content, and although I still have gear to get for alts, with my main I have everything I need and have done everything in game except PvP.
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Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »Have you cleared all the vet trials? The next step is vet trial hard modes, with the hardest being vAS+2. Also you can try for some unique achievements in trials, like Fang Focused or Void Avoided in vMoL. After completing all of that your main option is refining strategy and practicing to compete for leaderboard scores.
No not done trials HM yet. I don't have a trials guild either I have just pug grouped for trials.
I actually still have vDSA to do as well.0 -
MilwaukeeScott✭✭✭✭✭FishingPS4NA
All I see is hate and rage from people who don't understand how to.....7 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I mean... The current issue I have with end game PvE is that there is very little incentive to participate in itFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info4 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭MilwaukeeScott wrote: »Fishing
That would be my second to last thing to do in the game last being burning cash for the housing achievements. If I got so bored that all I am doing is fishing, I might as well quit and buy a fishing sim game.I mean... The current issue I have with end game PvE is that there is very little incentive to participate in it
Yeah, I feel you. Not that I am anti social, but being at the point where the only content I can do revolves around relying upon other people isn't a good thing for me.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Gear is so not the endgame in PvE. It's only the precursor. Plus the gear is pretty easy to get, as it should be, since gear is the means to an end, not the end itself.
The endgame is trials progression. Vet Craglorns, then vAS +0, then the Craglorn HMs, then vMoL, vHoF, vAS +1. Then vHoF "HM", then vMoL HM, and finally vAS +2.
And once you have cleared all those, then it's about score.
You still have a long ways to go--you have barely started the endgame. You absolutely need to join an endgame trials guild, however. That is not optional if you want to participate in endgame PvE.Edited by code65536 on December 31, 2017 3:35AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information3 -
Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
There actually plenty to do endgame just not what you consider "endgame". Every thing in this game can be done from the beginning to the end. This concept of "endgame" does not make sense for this game. Now there is 30 dungeons, 6 trials, and 2 arenas but this is the only thing you consider endgame than this is not the game for you. What about fishing, crafting,collecting motifs, trading, stealing and fencing, dalies, fighting world bosses, housing, chilling with guildies, role-playing, and exploring. These are things you can do at endgame along with questing, dungeons, trials and also pvp . All of these things have achievements. If you have done all of these than I suggest you take a break but if you chose not even consider the other as things to do in endgame. I suggest you rephrase your topic in that this game does does not have enough trials and dungeons for you.2 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭Gear is so not the endgame in PvE. It's only the precursor. Plus the gear is pretty easy to get, as it should be, since gear is the means to an end, not the end itself.
The endgame is trials progression. Vet Craglorns, then vAS +0, then the Craglorn HMs, then vMoL, vHoF, vAS +1. Then vHoF "HM", then vMoL HM, and finally vAS +2.
And once you have cleared all those, then it's about score.
You still have a long ways to go--you have barely started the endgame. You absolutely need to join an endgame trials guild, however. That is not optional if you want to participate in endgame PvE.
The order you said the trials in doesn't really matter, when the trials themselves are a means to an end, because the end, as in the reward for doing the trials, is gear...gold jewellery in this case.Darkonflare15 wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
There actually plenty to do endgame just not what you consider "endgame". Every thing in this game can be done from the beginning to the end. This concept of "endgame" does not make sense for this game. Now there is 30 dungeons, 6 trials, and 2 arenas but this is the only thing you consider endgame than this is not the game for you. What about fishing, crafting,collecting motifs, trading, stealing and fencing, dalies, fighting world bosses, housing, chilling with guildies, role-playing, and exploring. These are things you can do at endgame along with questing, dungeons, trials and also pvp . All of these things have achievements. If you have done all of these than I suggest you take a break but if you chose not even consider the other as things to do in endgame. I suggest you rephrase your topic in that this game does does not have enough trials and dungeons for you.
I think you misunderstand what the term endgame means in an MMO.
It means the content you are doing, or have to do at max level.
FYI I am tamrial hero have done every quest, have every skill point (other than full PvP rank) Master crafter, know all motifs (including the two crown motifs)
All I have left to do is:
Level PvP rank
Vdsa
Dailies for in game achievements
Random in game achievements like lightbringer, maiq and give to the poor
Vet trials HM and speed runs for in game achievements and titles (which require a guild)
A few slayer achievements for vet dungeons
Learn a few low level purple recepies
Learn furniture diagrams for in game achievements
Fishing for in game achievements
Buying houses for in game achievements
As you can see, most of these things to do are only for in game achievements and titles, which are pointless.
I have all the gear I need atm, so anything I can do at endgame is just for pointless endeavours. No reward or real progress.
I guess taking a break for a few months might be a good thing0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »Gear is so not the endgame in PvE. It's only the precursor. Plus the gear is pretty easy to get, as it should be, since gear is the means to an end, not the end itself.
The endgame is trials progression. Vet Craglorns, then vAS +0, then the Craglorn HMs, then vMoL, vHoF, vAS +1. Then vHoF "HM", then vMoL HM, and finally vAS +2.
And once you have cleared all those, then it's about score.
You still have a long ways to go--you have barely started the endgame. You absolutely need to join an endgame trials guild, however. That is not optional if you want to participate in endgame PvE.
The order you said the trials in doesn't really matter, when the trials themselves are a means to an end, because the end, as in the reward for doing the trials, is gear...gold jewellery in this case.Darkonflare15 wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
There actually plenty to do endgame just not what you consider "endgame". Every thing in this game can be done from the beginning to the end. This concept of "endgame" does not make sense for this game. Now there is 30 dungeons, 6 trials, and 2 arenas but this is the only thing you consider endgame than this is not the game for you. What about fishing, crafting,collecting motifs, trading, stealing and fencing, dalies, fighting world bosses, housing, chilling with guildies, role-playing, and exploring. These are things you can do at endgame along with questing, dungeons, trials and also pvp . All of these things have achievements. If you have done all of these than I suggest you take a break but if you chose not even consider the other as things to do in endgame. I suggest you rephrase your topic in that this game does does not have enough trials and dungeons for you.
I think you misunderstand what the term endgame means in an MMO.
It means the content you are doing, or have to do at max level.
FYI I am tamrial hero have done every quest, have every skill point (other than full PvP rank) Master crafter, know all motifs (including the two crown motifs)
All I have left to do is:
Level PvP rank
Vdsa
Dailies for in game achievements
Random in game achievements like lightbringer, maiq and give to the poor
Vet trials HM and speed runs for in game achievements and titles (which require a guild)
A few slayer achievements for vet dungeons
Learn a few low level purple recepies
Learn furniture diagrams for in game achievements
Fishing for in game achievements
Buying houses for in game achievements
As you can see, most of these things to do are only for in game achievements and titles, which are pointless.
I have all the gear I need atm, so anything I can do at endgame is just for pointless endeavours. No reward or real progress.
I guess taking a break for a few months might be a good thing
LOL!!!!!!!
You are literally the first person who I met to say that gold jewelry is the point. What's the gold jewelry worth to us? Literally just 52g. Vendor trash. A few clears is all it takes to get a full set.
People run trials for the challenge. For the company of others. To do better than the last time. For the plunder. For the exclusive titles and skins. For the prestige of the hard achievements. Gold jewelry is somewhere near the bottom of that list.
Edit: Or, to put it another way, there is a big juicy steak sitting in front of you. You take one bite of it, and declare that now that you've tasted it, you're done. Well, that's fine, whatever, but then you come to the forum to complain that you have nothing to eat and are hungry.Edited by code65536 on December 31, 2017 5:57AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information6 -
SirCritical✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »WrathOfInnos wrote: »Have you cleared all the vet trials? The next step is vet trial hard modes, with the hardest being vAS+2. Also you can try for some unique achievements in trials, like Fang Focused or Void Avoided in vMoL. After completing all of that your main option is refining strategy and practicing to compete for leaderboard scores.
No not done trials HM yet. I don't have a trials guild either I have just pug grouped for trials.
I actually still have vDSA to do as well.
Mate, with friendly approach, let me tell you that you haven't seen anything yet from endgame here. But I have to admit, the whole PvE-endgame is what you described above: gear and achievement (skin and title) hunting. But this can make us satisfied and hungry for that.1 -
Tsukiino✭✭✭✭It's lacking.
Okay hooray you've beaten Hard Mode MoL, Asylum, HoF, then what?
There's no incentive to even run for score because there is no reward for being in the Top X.
It's all bragging rights and measuring your e-p's.5 -
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✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »WrathOfInnos wrote: »Have you cleared all the vet trials? The next step is vet trial hard modes, with the hardest being vAS+2. Also you can try for some unique achievements in trials, like Fang Focused or Void Avoided in vMoL. After completing all of that your main option is refining strategy and practicing to compete for leaderboard scores.
No not done trials HM yet. I don't have a trials guild either I have just pug grouped for trials.
I actually still have vDSA to do as well.
So ...
You haven't done vDSA. You haven't done any HM Trials. Presumably you have not done vMoL or vHoF, either. You don't have no-death/speedrun/miscellaneous Trials achievements. You don't do PvP. How about Flawless Conqueror? What about no-death speedruns in all of the DLC vet dungeons?
I don't understand this post at all. You say that the game is "lacking in end game content" but it sounds like you haven't done the vast majority of the end game content we do have.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's lacking.
Okay hooray you've beaten Hard Mode MoL, Asylum, HoF, then what?
There's no incentive to even run for score because there is no reward for being in the Top X.
It's all bragging rights and measuring your e-p's.
I'm not a competitive raider. I run for fun and for achievements. I don't have them all yet, and nobody in the world does, either.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information0 -
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End game usually is trialsStinkyremy wrote: »We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
But end game content lacking, I can't tell if you are serious?
At a point after Sanctum there was a gap where there was no content at all for a year -- that was terrible times where most players ended up leaving because of stale gameplay.
As for end game content;
Leaderboard Based Content: Sanctum, AA, HRC, VMOL, HOF, Asylum, DSA, Maelstrom Arena
Dungeons: 24 base dungeons + Veteran and Normal versions, 7 DLC based dungeons
Going for titles in the dungeons and trials are pretty time consuming also, with the addition of No Death + Hardmode achievements which is very nice
Not to mention all DLC zones I will count as end game as they have came out a while after launch and keep coming out
DLC: Thieves Guild, Wrothgar, Dark Brotherhood, Clockwork City, Morrowind
I don't know how you can say there is no end game content compared to that year we had nothing new added, from everything I added there is well over countless hours of gameplay and they are ahead of the content now so by the time you are almost done another comes out.Edited by Nifty2g on December 31, 2017 10:18AM#MOREORBS0 -
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Luckily ZOS decided to bring in No Death + Hardmode achievements (and cool titles) which guess what that usually translates for: top X scores. There is your incentive.It's lacking.
Okay hooray you've beaten Hard Mode MoL, Asylum, HoF, then what?
There's no incentive to even run for score because there is no reward for being in the Top X.
It's all bragging rights and measuring your e-p's.
Edited by Nifty2g on December 31, 2017 10:22AM#MOREORBS0 -
Loc2262✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »PvP is the real end-game unless you want to PvE leaderboard chase.
No it's not. Luckily it's not. So can we please not turn this into another PVP-vs-PVE thread? This forum has more than enough of that.Kind regards,
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End game usually is trialsStinkyremy wrote: »We are seriously lacking in end game PvE content.
I'm at a point where all I have to do now is trials for gear to do vet trials for titles.
Other than rolling a new toon and questing.....again. Or doing PvP I feel there is nothing to do end game.
Any thoughts
But end game content lacking, I can't tell if you are serious?
At a point after Sanctum there was a gap where there was no content at all for a year -- that was terrible times where most players ended up leaving because of stale gameplay.
As for end game content;
Leaderboard Based Content: Sanctum, AA, HRC, VMOL, HOF, Asylum, DSA, Maelstrom Arena
Dungeons: 24 base dungeons + Veteran and Normal versions, 7 DLC based dungeons
Going for titles in the dungeons and trials are pretty time consuming also, with the addition of No Death + Hardmode achievements which is very nice
Not to mention all DLC zones I will count as end game as they have came out a while after launch and keep coming out
DLC: Thieves Guild, Wrothgar, Dark Brotherhood, Clockwork City, Morrowind
I don't know how you can say there is no end game content compared to that year we had nothing new added, from everything I added there is well over countless hours of gameplay and they are ahead of the content now so by the time you are almost done another comes out.
Pardon my ignorance, but I thought that there were only 6 DLC Dungeons, 2 in IC, 2 in SotH and 2 in HotR, that's a total of 6, which one is the 7th?0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭lol, i bet you dont even have a vmol skin and youre complaining about lack of end game content
vet craglorn non hard modes are pretty easy
theres plenty for you to do buddy. get clears on all vet trials and their hard modes and maybe you can complain. also, titles like dynamo, tick tormentor and saintly savior titles push than more than just completes.
btw, there is also pvp is the other side of end game. fighting against npcs who are predictable vs players who can do anything at anytimeEdited by SoLooney on December 31, 2017 12:28PM1 -
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✭Time to tale a break. There is a large amount of ove content, unlike pvp which hasnt changed much in years........0 -
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✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »PvP is the real end-game unless you want to PvE leaderboard chase. That's not my gig though.
im here since 14/14/2014...still waiting for a fix on cyrodill lagfest...2018 says hello! I just don't want to get to the part where 2020 says hello.0 -
Princess_Ciri✭✭✭✭✭end game isn't done until you're number 1 on the leaderboards
GM and raid leader of Hot Girls Play DPS, the cutest guild EU2
