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Magicka buids - Buff them (Stam imblalance problem)
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Pinja✭✭✭✭Why is it when ppl come to vent balance all they get is aids thrown at them. Do you not appreciate the help from the community?
As I said in another post good sorcerers were far & few, all your doing is encouraging people to leave the forum & leave the game. Due to terrible imbalance.
A.there are too many night blades.
B.there are too many idiots.
C.the jagged help them concepts are far & few, or too simplistic to help
Rune cage is too ineffective and frags didn't need a nerf.
P.s OP run immovable pots in the heat, they help...Edited by Pinja on December 15, 2017 4:14PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭As I told you in the thread where you complained about stamDK, you don't even know what you are complaining about.
Go and play a stamina class yourself before spitting out this ''stam is op'' non sense.
Except stamblades and stam wardens, stamina is in a terrible terrible place for PvP, especially in group play, they are referenced as ''rapid monkeys'', because most of the EOTS train groups run 1 or 2 rapid spammers to make sure their bombers are running around fast.Edited by Ragnarock41 on December 15, 2017 5:24PM1 -
Goshua✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »This has been discussed ad naseum. Stop trying to make everything the same: managing two resource pools is central to ESO gameplay (magicka buffs/utility on stam classes, stam mechanics on magicka classes).
Making both pools cover everything would just make stam vs mag a choice of healing ward vs Vigor.
It's already that anyway. Except for vigor you don't have to equip an otherwise pointless weapon.
imo vigor should be removed.
Like why is there even a STAM HEAL that doesn't require you to change weapons too?
heh, I agree, get rid of vigor .. i mean are you a stamina build or not? where does the healing power come from?
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✭✭✭DanielWinterborn wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »DanielWinterborn wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »This has been discussed ad naseum. Stop trying to make everything the same: managing two resource pools is central to ESO gameplay (magicka buffs/utility on stam classes, stam mechanics on magicka classes).
Making both pools cover everything would just make stam vs mag a choice of healing ward vs Vigor.
Yeah but you as a stam build use your buffs what? Once every 15-30 seconds? Plenty of time to recover the used magicka but dodge roll+break free is done one after another in one second, not to mention block and that stops your stam regen. So me with a 10k pool of stamina am done in 2 seconds with it. There's no contest here, stamina is sweet honey to stam builds but a curse and nerf for magicka classes.
I would love to fight a stamsorc that only streaks every 30 seconds. Or a stamplar that only purges every 30. Or a NB that only cloaks every 30.
I main magplar. I have no mobility. I only run out of stamina if I misplay. Triglyphs, trifood, tripots all exist for a reason (and I'd much rather manage a second pool for my dodgeroll, block, and break free than go OOM in 30 seconds because they all draw from my magicka pool.
So get some mana regen, what's stopping you? I never run out of mana, in fact my stamina pool kills me due to the lack of mobility. Also if you pay attention about the 30 seconds thing I was talking about buffs, what you mentioned are not buffs.
If you need more than 3 streaks then invest in mana but 3 streaks combined with 5 dodge rolls? How's that balance since I don't have streak and only can dodge 2 times? I don't use tri pots, why would I? Using those on a magicka build is just bad. I'm better off using essence of immovability to restore health and magicka while also granting immunity. And again using all those tri foods, glyphs and whatever nerfs my mage build in favour of stamina.
You know what else nerfs your mage build? Being dead because you didn't build your character properly.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA2 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magicka needs a different kind of buff than that listed aboveFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Magicka and Satmina have their weaknesses, ATM Magicka is best for DPS and the only real choice for heals, so....Hoping for more playable races1 -
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✭✭I want a healing ward stam version and you can have your mag dodge roll, how but that?2 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭The only thing worse than pve players are stamina players. I say zos just focus on magicka pvp and the game will be much better off.1 -
JiKama✭✭✭✭With all do respect... You have 2 shields... I have none.... TY
Edited by JiKama on December 15, 2017 6:54PM2 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If magic builds could use their magic resource pool for everything, then their would literally be no distinction between magic and stamina.1 -
Spacemonkey✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »DanielWinterborn wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »This has been discussed ad naseum. Stop trying to make everything the same: managing two resource pools is central to ESO gameplay (magicka buffs/utility on stam classes, stam mechanics on magicka classes).
Making both pools cover everything would just make stam vs mag a choice of healing ward vs Vigor.
Yeah but you as a stam build use your buffs what? Once every 15-30 seconds? Plenty of time to recover the used magicka but dodge roll+break free is done one after another in one second, not to mention block and that stops your stam regen. So me with a 10k pool of stamina am done in 2 seconds with it. There's no contest here, stamina is sweet honey to stam builds but a curse and nerf for magicka classes.
I would love to fight a stamsorc that only streaks every 30 seconds. Or a stamplar that only purges every 30. Or a NB that only cloaks every 30.
I main magplar. I have no mobility. I only run out of stamina if I misplay. Triglyphs, trifood, tripots all exist for a reason (and I'd much rather manage a second pool for my dodgeroll, block, and break free than go OOM in 30 seconds because they all draw from my magicka pool.
I was about to say that, lol
Stamplar purge is like ever 3 seconds lol.
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✭✭✭✭Spacemonkey wrote: »
Bone shield lasts 4 seconds, it sucks horribiblyHoping for more playable races1 -
the_man_of_steal✭✭✭As a PVP player who a year ago was playing exclusively Stam builds in PVP and now is playing exclusively Mag builds in PVP, I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Stam needs a buff!
Mag nightblades need a buff more than anything so focus on that first ZOS but at least i can use my magblade for VMA or DSA or trials etc for now.
DW is completely messed up and useless for stam. No shields at all for stam. I am constantly being rooted or snared which would be much less of a problem if i have a tiny shield on preventing crits for a few seconds. There is ONE massive heal stam builds can use forcing us to use Two Hand and crippling our creativity. 1H and Shield skills are completely useless except for the almighty reverb but again this makes every stam build essentially the same. Vigor costs more, shuffle does less, bows do Sh#t, the weapon ultis for stam are crud, our regen gets all messed up when we block because of the 1 second global cooldown for stam regen during blocking and this hurts stam builds more than it hurts mag builds, blocking reduction costs are a joke unless ur a stam Dk which can be nerfed in other ways that does not hurt other stam builds... I could rant for hours about how stam is horrible in ESO these days.
AGAIN MAGBLADES NEED A BUFF BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, ZOS. But I respectfully disagree with OP.
Cheers!Edited by the_man_of_steal on December 15, 2017 7:42PM2 -
Rianai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Uhm, i don't think, magblades need buffs right now. They are top tier for zerg play, and also strong in small scale and even solo (with working shadow image!). Stam builds are not so good for zergs, but can be (depending on the class) still good for solo and small scale. Overall it is a matter of class, build and situation, not a general "magicka or stamina is stronger" rule.Edited by Rianai on December 15, 2017 7:50PM2 -
TheUndeadAmulet✭✭✭✭✭You realize that stamina builds are at a huge disadvantage because most of their defense is relegated to same resource pool as their offense meaning they can lose offensive pressure a lot quicker?
Magicka builds aren't supposed to roll around and block everything (at least, not in normal builds), and although they can do a couple of these things they aren't allowed to do it willy-nilly. Magicka builds have superior shields and healing anyway to get over it.XBOX NA 1000+ CP
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✭✭✭✭Magicka people just want everything.... greedy peopleHoping for more playable races3 -
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Stam sorc is literally the second worst spec in the game.(sDK is the worst, stamplar is just above them). Stamblade is very strong, but mageblade is superior. Stam warden is literally the only stam class outperforming it’s magika equivalent in the present meta3
