Ackwalan wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

And you can hear snipe coming, just open your ears. If you don't hear when it's coming, then you deserve to get hit.

true, 1hit may got throuh but if you dont get block and,or shields up for the second u even deserve to die

You almost understand. Using an add-on telling you someone has block up, is just as cheesy as using an add-on to tell you a snipe attack is coming.

ofc its cheesy, just messin arround a bit here

you can hear snipes inc if you pay attention on it. and you can clearly see when someone has block up.
So if you need an addon for it or not just depends on the players skill and nothing else.

Stealth is what a Nightblade does.

Miat is thus, cheating

Ackwalan wrote: »

You complain about people using stealth and snipe, when all you do is hold block and use lava whip.

This. ;D

Yeah, the pestilence of snipe spamming dung piles needs to be extinguished from the face of cyrodiil.

The problem is not griefing other players, which is basically what snipe spamming is all about, the problem is the zero risk mentality ZOS implemented for such pathetic losers.

By the way: OP is not using Miat's PvP Alerts' incoming projectile function and no, you cannot hear projectiles without sound and no, not all casted projectiles are animated by the game engine. The moment more than a certain amount of skills are active at once, the animations of AoE and projectiles vanish and cannot be identified quickly without addon (feared animation not playing, negate not visible, snipe not visible etc. pp.).

In Cyrodiil you get rage tells for allegedly using Miat's after roll dodging incoming Snipes.
Now people complain about people for allegedly using Miat's after mentioning it in a forum thread.
I wonder what will come next.

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

So the whole point of you posting this video is that you don't like it when stealth is used against you, even though it's a mechanic that has always been part of the game, that has passives designed specifically to make it better and more powerful, so you feel good about using an addon that helps you cope with your inability to accept a core design feature of PVP?

Good to know I guess lol.

I do not use Miat's PvP Alerts.

Did you even watch the video?

You should change the title of your post then.

"People" doesn't only mean me... the title is accurate.

Iselin wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

So the whole point of you posting this video is that you don't like it when stealth is used against you, even though it's a mechanic that has always been part of the game, that has passives designed specifically to make it better and more powerful, so you feel good about using an addon that helps you cope with your inability to accept a core design feature of PVP?

Good to know I guess lol.

I do not use Miat's PvP Alerts.

Did you even watch the video?

So you're just whining about the existence of stealth and saying that's what drives people to use it? Yeah, much better lol..

I'm demonstrating why people feel the need to use such an add-on. If you think I'm whinging then so be it, I was aiming for informative, I'll work on my delivery next time.

So the informative part is people use MIat's because stealth exists? OK... thanks for the tip.:)

Iselin wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

So the whole point of you posting this video is that you don't like it when stealth is used against you, even though it's a mechanic that has always been part of the game, that has passives designed specifically to make it better and more powerful, so you feel good about using an addon that helps you cope with your inability to accept a core design feature of PVP?

Good to know I guess lol.

I do not use Miat's PvP Alerts.

Did you even watch the video?

You should change the title of your post then.

"People" doesn't only mean me... the title is accurate.

Iselin wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

So the whole point of you posting this video is that you don't like it when stealth is used against you, even though it's a mechanic that has always been part of the game, that has passives designed specifically to make it better and more powerful, so you feel good about using an addon that helps you cope with your inability to accept a core design feature of PVP?

Good to know I guess lol.

I do not use Miat's PvP Alerts.

Did you even watch the video?

So you're just whining about the existence of stealth and saying that's what drives people to use it? Yeah, much better lol..

I'm demonstrating why people feel the need to use such an add-on. If you think I'm whinging then so be it, I was aiming for informative, I'll work on my delivery next time.

So the informative part is people use MIat's because stealth exists? OK... thanks for the tip.:)

Why do people choose to use MIAT's in ESO? Why do people choose to use drugs in sport? It's because they know in their hearts that they are really just not good enough to compete without it.

DDuke wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Yeah, the pestilence of snipe spamming dung piles needs to be extinguished from the face of cyrodiil.

The problem is not griefing other players, which is basically what snipe spamming is all about, the problem is the zero risk mentality ZOS implemented for such pathetic losers.

By the way: OP is not using Miat's PvP Alerts' incoming projectile function and no, you cannot hear projectiles without sound and no, not all casted projectiles are animated by the game engine. The moment more than a certain amount of skills are active at once, the animations of AoE and projectiles vanish and cannot be identified quickly without addon (feared animation not playing, negate not visible, snipe not visible etc. pp.).

"Zero risk" - did you watch the video? Almost all of those bow users died in it.

The only time you can talk about zero risk is when you're sniping at a target 40m+ away (meaning you can't combo the snipe and thus can't get kills on anyone even semi-decent at this game) from a keep wall where you can't get surprised by someone from stealth (ironic btw).

In every other scenario, bow is far from zero risk since you're as good as dead when caught by permablocking root/snare/undodgeable damage spamming DKs, sorc streaks, Soul Assaults etc.

The entire bow playstyle is about kiting & dealing ranged damage which might be annoying to some people - but tell me, how is that any different than playing against a magicka sorc camping mines? Or a permacloaking magblade with 15k+ Assassin's Wills combo'd with CCs?

The skill itself allows unskilled players without game knowledge to pressure experienced players in XvY Situations where y>=2x without any risk because players x usually are busy in a melee fight whereas the snipe portion of players y sits 40m away spamming one button while sniggering like beavis & butthead. They have zero risk because they are too far away to be charged and will have cloaked and repositioned by the time they can be focused.

This is different to e.g. dark flare spam, crystal blast spam, molten armaments elegance heavy attack spam because all these classes cannot use stealth repeatedly to stay in mostly the same position/range and continue spamming and cannot put as many projectiles into the air at once.

The video OP posted is pointing this out by showing how useless these people are if they are NOT accompanied by melee fighters and are NOT stealing kills (they all die eventually because their style of combat is relying on others to do the actual work). This puts a spotlight on the fact that most of the snipe spammers ingame are just bad players empowered by zergsurfing and numbers.

On the other hand, everybody visiting the forums regularly should understand that OP didn't post a video showing him in an intense melee fight or a fight against a visible opponent and then getting rekt by two rank 5 snipers from behind.

All you would ever get on the forums is a L2P from people who themselves get oneshotted from pve healers in duels.