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Why Skoira wasnt touched at all?
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AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭techprince wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »techprince wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Skoria is fine.
Another skoria user spotted.
It's ok. You're in a safe place now. Just let us know where the bad Skoria touched you *holds up teddy bear
This happens when someone runs out of rational arguments. Just let us know when you have something to argue with.
I don't remember engaging in a rational or irrational argument? Hard to keep track with the "many people" posting about how upset they are with Skoria .Edited by AbysmalGhul on October 27, 2017 11:27PM0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭techprince wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Skoria was nerfed enough in the past.
If you die to Skoria you deserve to.
Skoria user spotted.
Actually I main a stam nightblade most of the time.
But in the past three years I have played all classes.
None of them die solely to Skoria very often.
Edited by TequilaFire on October 27, 2017 11:27PM2 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭techprince wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Skoria is fine.
Another skoria user spotted.
Yes I am. And it is fine.1 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »Skoria was nerfed enough in the past.
If you die to Skoria you deserve to.
you probably get carried by it.2 -
Grothdarr can also proc when the wearer is dead.
Source: have been dead and procced Grothdarr4 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭It already has a delay and a sound indicator but it can be hard to hear it coming even in a 1v1 situation let alone a siege fight.
Adding a visual indicator like Meteor's would help both sides by giving the caster an opportunity to focus his burst damage in group fights and the victim to be able to block it.
make it dodgeable1 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is pathetic. Once again the PvP crowd is about to have another piece of equipment nerfed. Why? Because they’re dying to it.
Don’t you all get tired of ruining things? You’ve ruined everything from classes, to sets, to set prove, and even things like regeneration of stamina while blocking. Enough already. Damn.12 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is pathetic. Once again the PvP crowd is about to have another piece of equipment nerfed. Why? Because they’re dying to it.
Don’t you all get tired of ruining things? You’ve ruined everything from classes, to sets, to set prove, and even things like regeneration of stamina while blocking. Enough already. Damn.
Honestly most of the PVP crowd think it is fine.
It's the [snip] that see "Valkyn Skoria" on their death recap, and think "Wait that is a Proc Set and those are OP" that call for nerfs.
I wouldn't call myself a great PVP player, hell, I probably wouldn't even say I am even that good. But I have no trouble hearing the sound of an incoming Skoria proc and taking steps to avoid it. But apparently "git gud" isn't a valid argument.
[Edit to remove bait]Edited by ZOS_MattL on October 28, 2017 3:30PMLord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds5 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭Skoria like other proc sets can't crit and yes I use it on my mdk. Skoria doesn't go off every 4 seconds either unless you are extremely lucky. In pvp just hold block like you do for meteor to mitigate most of the damage,simple
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Skoria was untouched this patch because it is still weak from previous nerfs.4 -
Mannix1958✭✭✭✭techprince wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »techprince wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Skoria is fine.
Another skoria user spotted.
It's ok. You're in a safe place now. Just let us know where the bad Skoria touched you *holds up teddy bear
This happens when someone runs out of rational arguments. Just let us know when you have something to argue with.
And yours is..."Another Skoria user found". You ignore all the reasoning why its fine...hell I own several and use it on 1 toon and only on occasion. Its okay.1 -
techprince✭✭✭✭✭This is pathetic. Once again the PvP crowd is about to have another piece of equipment nerfed. Why? Because they’re dying to it.
Don’t you all get tired of ruining things? You’ve ruined everything from classes, to sets, to set prove, and even things like regeneration of stamina while blocking. Enough already. Damn.
So tell ZOS to balance PvE and PvP differently?AbysmalGhul wrote: »techprince wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »techprince wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Skoria is fine.
Another skoria user spotted.
It's ok. You're in a safe place now. Just let us know where the bad Skoria touched you *holds up teddy bear
This happens when someone runs out of rational arguments. Just let us know when you have something to argue with.
I don't remember engaging in a rational or irrational argument? Hard to keep track with the "many people" posting about how upset they are with Skoria .
Then why are you even posting here? just to troll?TequilaFire wrote: »techprince wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Skoria was nerfed enough in the past.
If you die to Skoria you deserve to.
Skoria user spotted.
Actually I main a stam nightblade most of the time.
But in the past three years I have played all classes.
None of them die solely to Skoria very often.
There is no way in the hell one would die to skoria solely as its requirement is a DOT. You will die from dots + skoria. So no, thats not even an arguable point.Mannix1958 wrote: »techprince wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »techprince wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Skoria is fine.
Another skoria user spotted.
It's ok. You're in a safe place now. Just let us know where the bad Skoria touched you *holds up teddy bear
This happens when someone runs out of rational arguments. Just let us know when you have something to argue with.
And yours is..."Another Skoria user found". You ignore all the reasoning why its fine...hell I own several and use it on 1 toon and only on occasion. Its okay.
And the reasoning is, "skoria is fine?" lol...WrathOfInnos wrote: »Skoria was untouched this patch because it is still weak from previous nerfs.
Ahhh, so thats the reason why skoria users went up in numbers after HOTR because its "weak" right?
Nobody in their right mind will use a weak set in PvP.I don’t think I’ve ever died just because Skoria.
Every proc set has a requirement, no one will die to skoria alone as it requires DOT.Edited by techprince on October 28, 2017 10:24AM0 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Skoria was nerfed enough in the past.
If you die to Skoria you deserve to.
I kill a lot of people with skoria, specially nightblades, specially after I die.
I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.0 -
OutLaw_Nynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sounds like someone died to Skoria.
I die to it often in pvp. It’s my own fault. You can hear it coming... block or dodgeroll.0 -
techprince✭✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Sounds like someone died to Skoria.
I die to it often in pvp. It’s my own fault. You can hear it coming... block or dodgeroll.
Sounds like someone is new to the game. Its undodgable. We can block, if we SEE it coming. Every direct damaging monster set was changed, so should skoria.Edited by techprince on October 28, 2017 12:41PM0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Skoria was nerfed enough in the past.
If you die to Skoria you deserve to.
you probably get carried by it.
Bads always respond this way.
Don't even use it on a stamblade.Edited by TequilaFire on October 28, 2017 12:50PM1 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭techprince wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Sounds like someone died to Skoria.
I die to it often in pvp. It’s my own fault. You can hear it coming... block or dodgeroll.
Sounds like someone is new to the game. Its undodgable. We can block, if we SEE it coming. Every direct damaging monster set was changed, so should skoria.
You have a good second and a half to block once you hear the audio cue go off, a rather distinct audio cue at that.
Even with music playing pretty loudly in the background it is really not that hard to pick out and react to.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds0 -
OutLaw_Nynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭techprince wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Sounds like someone died to Skoria.
I die to it often in pvp. It’s my own fault. You can hear it coming... block or dodgeroll.
Sounds like someone is new to the game. Its undodgable. We can block, if we SEE it coming. Every direct damaging monster set was changed, so should skoria.
Aren’t you just a ray of sunshine?0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can make skoria easier to counter when skoria has the same damage potential as selene. You can nerf the damage of skoria the day that selene is identical in damage potential to the nerfed skoria.
To be honest, skoria is horrible compared to selene, maybe we need to look at magic danage monster set options again, and some players may drop skoria for somthing else.1 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To OP, here´s a post I did in a thread a while ago regarding Skoria. The topic in that thread was to increase the cooldown on Skoria. The purpose of the post is to show that Skoria is balanced due to the fact that you need quite a few dots to actually proc it frequently. Also note that this is on a target skeleton where I can without stress refresh my dots without trouble, which won´t be the case in PvP
Edited to remove the player at which this was originally adressed to
Now keep in mind that this is a PvE setup and it´s much easier to maintain a high uptime on your DoTs (also easier to maintain more DoTs) than it is in a PvP scenario, that fact is un-deniable.
Disclaimer: If some calculation is wrong/incorrect, feel free to point them out.
For these tests we will have a few common DoTs: (A total of 7 DoTs)
- Engulfing Flames
- Burning Embers
- Blockade of Fire
- Standard of Might
- Burning status effect
- Eruption
- Rearming Trap
My setup:
1st DPS-test: Even though this dps parse is the one that took the most time the uptime on my DoTs are high in this dps parse. Still I messed up this one so not to take this one as very accurate. But we have 9 Skoria-procs during 135 second --> Which gives us a proc-rate of 1 Skoria every 15 seconds (roughly)
2nd DPS-test:
Fight duration: Roughly 84 seconds. Amount of Skoria procs = 12 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 7th second
3rd DPS-test:
Fight duration: Roughly 87 seconds. Amount of Skoria Procs = 11 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 8 second.
4th DPS-test:
Fight duration: Roughly 80 seconds. Amount of Skoria procs = 9 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 9th second
5th DPS-test:
Fight duration: Roughly 82 seconds. Amount of Skoria procs = 9 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 9th second.
DPS-test #6 and #7 are a little different than the previous ones. On these last 2 I only caused damage by using DoTs. These were: Blockade of Fire, Burning Embers, Engulfing Flames and Eruption (Standard of Might is there as well but during a very short amount of time during each parse)
6th DPS-test:
Fight duration: 185 seconds. Amount of Skoria procs = 23 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 8th second.
7th DPS-test:
Fight duration: 184 seconds. Amount of Skoria procs = 18 --> Which gives us a procrate of 1 Skoria every 10th second.
Now, these test doesn´t prove that Skoria can´t proc off-cooldown. To prove that I would probably have to run another 100 dps test exactly like the previous ones to come to any conclusion. I would assume that @ have done hundreds of these dps-tests as he/she can say with such confidence that Skoria procs off-cooldown (kappa)
Now this was single target. Against more enemies we would most likely have more Skoria procs since the DoTs would affect more enemies. As I said earlier it´s easier to maintain more DoTs and have a higher uptime on these in a PvE scenario than in a PvP scenario. In PvP however you might face multiple enemies to apply your DoTs on, but this goes even more in favour for PvE (aside from single target fights).
So even if we run a PvE magicka DK setup, which is one of the classes that uses the most DoTs in the game, we´re still not close to proc it every 5 seconds.
Edited by Qbiken on October 28, 2017 2:14PM9 -
techprince✭✭✭✭✭You can make skoria easier to counter when skoria has the same damage potential as selene. You can nerf the damage of skoria the day that selene is identical in damage potential to the nerfed skoria.
To be honest, skoria is horrible compared to selene, maybe we need to look at magic danage monster set options again, and some players may drop skoria for somthing else.
As long as skoria hits only in melee, has 1.3 second delay, is dodgable AND has a visual indicator, you can add 15k damage and remove the AOE damage part of the same.Edited by techprince on October 28, 2017 2:51PM1 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I main Magblade and use Skoria 100% of the time. Obviously I love it, but not going to lie - it is overperfoming, especially in light of the other procs being nerfed.
It was already nerfed!
Y'all need to just SERIOUSLY STOP.
It's just getting ridiculous.
I don't even wear it and you need to stop.2 -
techprince✭✭✭✭✭I main Magblade and use Skoria 100% of the time. Obviously I love it, but not going to lie - it is overperfoming, especially in light of the other procs being nerfed.
It was already nerfed!
Y'all need to just SERIOUSLY STOP.
It's just getting ridiculous.
I don't even wear it and you need to stop.
Lol, why everyone defending are so afraid of a telegraph? all of you want telegraph and a delay for every other set, but when it comes to your favorite, you start defending it? thats very biased.Edited by techprince on October 28, 2017 3:09PM0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭techprince wrote: »I main Magblade and use Skoria 100% of the time. Obviously I love it, but not going to lie - it is overperfoming, especially in light of the other procs being nerfed.
It was already nerfed!
Y'all need to just SERIOUSLY STOP.
It's just getting ridiculous.
I don't even wear it and you need to stop.
Lol, why everyone defending are so afraid of a telegraph? all of you want telegraph and a delay for every other set, but when it comes to your favorite, you start defending it? thats very biased.
Look who is talking about bias.
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