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Can we please increase the difficulty?

  • zaria
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
    What world boss was this and how many other players assisted you?
    its also an question about weapon
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    its important to use bis weapons.

    Nerf broom
    Style change on gear should give some fun options :)

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • SydneyGrey
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    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.
    But you already know how to play. People just starting the game don't already know how to play, and would get squished by world bosses under the same circumstances. They can't make the game so hard that newcomers get discouraged and leave. MMOs need a steady flow of new players to survive.
    Now, everything shouldn't be easy, either. There needs to be a mix of easy and hard content, and there is.

    *Edit* Oh, you're joking. :neutral: That was a pretty bad joke, considering people post stuff like this occasionally and really mean it.

    Edited by SydneyGrey on October 26, 2017 4:24AM
  • Strider__Roshin
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Do you have full CP? The problem would be for players who don't know mechanics of the game and have no CP. It is going to be hard for them to do something like that. Would be nice if there was a hardmode overworld or something you could go to for experienced players but would probably segment the playerbase too much.

    Nope. I'm max CP on NA so I decided to create a character on the EU server in hopes that the game would be fun again. Nope, still stupid easy.

    Did you allocate all that CP on your new Alt? Cause that'd be why it was "still stupid easy". Even if you under Lvl50 your CP still applies it's buffs.

    I see low levels all the time who are obviously new to the game and haven't started earning CP yet, and they struggle with Overland content so hard it's almost sad to watch. So the next time people like the OP is complaining about "stupid easy" content, it's your 700CP doing most of the work for you.

    No no no, this is my first character on the EU server. I don't even have my crown store purchases on this character.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.
    But you already know how to play. People just starting the game don't already know how to play, and would get squished by world bosses under the same circumstances. They can't make the game so hard that newcomers get discouraged and leave. MMOs need a steady flow of new players to survive.
    Now, everything shouldn't be easy, either. There needs to be a mix of easy and hard content, and there is.
    *Edit* Oh, you're joking. :neutral: That was a pretty bad joke, considering people post stuff like this occasionally and really mean it.

    I'm not joking? Who said I was joking?
  • Malic
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    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

    ZOS sold out for profit, ESO is pretty much like every other face rolling watered down mmo on the market.

    Unless you are a complete noob, there is almost zero chance you will die in this game while leveling a charecter. It wasnt always this way, and I have to tell you for the first couple of years this game was AAA in my book. Had it all, challenging PVE content, great challenging quests in the story lines and decent pvp.

    Now? Its a tear fest about how the latest festival should be extended an extra day because of maintenance and how the cosmetic orange this time is 2 pixels brighter than last year.

    The casuals won. Long live the whales.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Also for those wondering I was using a Nightblade with the greatsword you pickup from the first guy in the Morrowind tutorial, and I was spamming Strife and Uppercut. The boss I was fighting was the one by the Serpent stone in Rivenspire. The one that does the easy to avoid ground AoE, and the easily interruptible channel. Don't recall his name I'm afraid.
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    everything is scaled to your level. so what might seem easy to you might be hard for a new comer.

    edited for spelling
    Edited by Gilvoth on October 26, 2017 12:10AM
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Malic wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

    ZOS sold out for profit, ESO is pretty much like every other face rolling watered down mmo on the market.

    Unless you are a complete noob, there is almost zero chance you will die in this game while leveling a charecter. It wasnt always this way, and I have to tell you for the first couple of years this game was AAA in my book. Had it all, challenging PVE content, great challenging quests in the story lines and decent pvp.

    Now? Its a tear fest about how the latest festival should be extended an extra day because of maintenance and how the cosmetic orange this time is 2 pixels brighter than last year.

    The casuals won. Long live the whales.

    Holy I remember the glory days. People whine on here saying "don't ruin the game for us just because you find it easy" but they're the ones that ruined this game.

    Remember when veteran zones were actually tough? Remember when you could identify a talented player because they were soloing craglorn? Remember when completing WGT on vet was something to be proud of? Now look at this game.... What a shame.
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    Lmao. Op out here doing the majority of DPS in VMoL runs at Lv.10, and solo’ing WB’s at Lv.3. By the time OP hits Lv.50, he’ll be solo’ing VSOHM. :D

    Yo @Vaoh and @Thelon we have a new member joining the solo’ing squad. The only difference between him and us, is that he can do these feats without CP or gear.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on October 26, 2017 12:14AM
  • Strider__Roshin
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    everything is scaled to your level. so what might seem easy to you might be hard for a new comer.

    edited for spelling

    This is a brand new character on a brand new server. Doesn't get newer than this other than the person behind the controller.
  • Malic
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    Daus wrote: »
    Malic wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

    ZOS sold out for profit, ESO is pretty much like every other face rolling watered down mmo on the market.

    Unless you are a complete noob, there is almost zero chance you will die in this game while leveling a charecter. It wasnt always this way, and I have to tell you for the first couple of years this game was AAA in my book. Had it all, challenging PVE content, great challenging quests in the story lines and decent pvp.

    Now? Its a tear fest about how the latest festival should be extended an extra day because of maintenance and how the cosmetic orange this time is 2 pixels brighter than last year.

    The casuals won. Long live the whales.

    Holy I remember the glory days. People whine on here saying "don't ruin the game for us just because you find it easy" but they're the ones that ruined this game.

    Remember when veteran zones were actually tough? Remember when you could identify a talented player because they were soloing craglorn? Remember when completing WGT on vet was something to be proud of? Now look at this game.... What a shame.

    ya, you got to MAYBE vr4 after cadwells and that took a long time. Undaunted dailes? Nope.

    The only XP buff you got was mara and you had to have purchased the imperial edition for that. What did you have 3K health on a tank?

    You just had to be careful, you couldnt face roll EVERYTHING then. WB now are better, but for the most part its a cake walk.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Lmao. Op out here doing the majority of DPS in VMoL runs at Lv.10, and solo’ing WB’s at Lv.3. By the time OP hits Lv.50, he’ll be solo’ing VSOHM. :D

    Yo @Vaoh and @Thelon we have a new member joining the solo’ing squad. The only difference between him and us, is that he can do these feats without CP or gear.

    I don't know how you misconstrueded this as bragging, but it's not. I'm disgruntled about how watered down this game has gotten. I thought it was just because of my CP, but after making a new character in a server where I have no gear, and no CP it's quite clear that this game's difficulty is a joke.

    It's truly a shame, and I wish it were not so.
  • Cadbury
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    Is the game easier on PC or console? NA or EU?

    Asking for a friend.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • disintegr8
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    Level scaling overcompensates for very low level characters.

    On my new account, my level 5 NB with 2H weapon and no CP was clearing delves and and dolmens last night getting skulls. Of course it helps that he already has set gear, food and potions made by my crafter on my main account, but still....
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  • Strider__Roshin
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Is the game easier on PC or console? NA or EU?

    Asking for a friend.

    Easier on PC. Runs faster, and players in PvP aren't as talented on average (at least the ones I've encountered on the PTS). Can't comment on EU vs NA on console when it comes to players in PvP because I just hit level 10 before shutting it off.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Level scaling overcompensates for very low level characters.

    On my new account, my level 5 NB with 2H weapon and no CP was clearing delves and and dolmens last night getting skulls. Of course it helps that he already has set gear, food and potions made by my crafter on my main account, but still....

    A valid point, however like you said "but still..."
  • Myyth
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    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

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  • smacx250
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    I do a quick node farm a on a starter island most days. I see the new players there all the time. For many of them it can be significant battle (in terms of time) to kill a single wolf. Unless you've experienced what even the very easiest of overland mobs takes for many new players to overcome, you might not want to suggest blanket difficulty increases. That is, unless you want to strangle the game of new players.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    smacx250 wrote: »
    I do a quick node farm a on a starter island most days. I see the new players there all the time. For many of them it can be significant battle (in terms of time) to kill a single wolf. Unless you've experienced what even the very easiest of overland mobs takes for many new players to overcome, you might not want to suggest blanket difficulty increases. That is, unless you want to strangle the game of new players.

    I can understand this rationale. I know they did away with the leveled zones a long time ago, but can we at do tiers of difficulty rather than every zone being beginner mode? And especially bosses.
    Edited by Strider__Roshin on October 26, 2017 1:03AM
  • Drummerx04
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    I mean really, as long as you have a self heal (which a lot of classes do as a first magicka skill) and take your time, many world bosses don't hit THAT hard, so as long as you occasionally block/roll and look after your resources, I can certainly see many WB getting soloed by such a character.

    Having said that, there are some which are pretty nasty like the aforementioned gargoyle in Rivenspire. If nothing else, the bleed+the adds makes for a pretty tough fight for a solo.
    Edited by Drummerx04 on October 26, 2017 1:23AM
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  • Path
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    No.
    Play with bad equipment instead.
    Fairy Tales Really Do Come True...Kinda.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Of course you have a video to back up your claim?

    I’m still waiting on this video. Lol.
  • MudcrabSammich
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    Daus wrote: »
    everything is scaled to your level. so what might seem easy to you might be hard for a new comer.

    edited for spelling

    This is a brand new character on a brand new server. Doesn't get newer than this other than the person behind the controller.

    I have to wonder, are we even talking about the same game here? If so, I think you might be an exception to the rule when it comes to players' abilities. I'm guessing you're on the young side and have great reflexes. I'm on the older side and have been playing games since the early 80s. Yeah, sure, I know your answer is the old tried and true LTP or git gud, but just try to understand how frustrating it is to be aging and finding your reflexes not what they used to be, and some of us have physical disabilities. I can get killed by a WB any day of the week. Some day, you will be old too.
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Of course you have a video to back up your claim?

    I’m still waiting on this video. Lol.

    Do I really need to make this video? I really don't feel like making a new character just to say "I told you so". How about this, you're on the PS4 correct? If I produce this video you give me 100k. Make it worth my time :wink:
  • Maryal
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    Pffft, I soloed HelRa, HoF, and Dragon Star Arena all in one day at level 3 with no CP, no weapons (using my hands only), and no gear.

    BTW, my toon is a thief, not the most honest profession, ya know ;)
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Daus wrote: »
    everything is scaled to your level. so what might seem easy to you might be hard for a new comer.

    edited for spelling

    This is a brand new character on a brand new server. Doesn't get newer than this other than the person behind the controller.

    I have to wonder, are we even talking about the same game here? If so, I think you might be an exception to the rule when it comes to players' abilities. I'm guessing you're on the young side and have great reflexes. I'm on the older side and have been playing games since the early 80s. Yeah, sure, I know your answer is the old tried and true LTP or git gud, but just try to understand how frustrating it is to be aging and finding your reflexes not what they used to be, and some of us have physical disabilities. I can get killed by a WB any day of the week. Some day, you will be old too.

    You're not incorrect. I am 29, and I am no "noob". I am not going to insult you, but may I ask? How much should an MMO cater to someone with physical limitations, and how much would it cater to someone like me? When even a WB can be solo'd from a fresh account should that not raise a red flag? You're older, and I'm assuming wiser so what are your thoughts?
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Path wrote: »
    No.
    Play with bad equipment instead.

    ? You do know that would improve my stats right?
  • vpy
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    Daus wrote: »
    I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

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  • Path
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    Daus wrote: »
    Path wrote: »
    No.
    Play with bad equipment instead.

    ? You do know that would improve my stats right?

    Maybe this?

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  • Xoelarasizerer
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    No CP [X]
    < Blue Equipment [X]
    No Armour Sets [X]
    No Armour (neked) [X]
    Broom [ ]
    No Weapons [ ]
    No Pots [ ]
    No Food [ ]
    No Attributes [ ]
    No Passives [ ]
    No Skills [ ]
    Play with one eye closed [ ]
    Play with both eyes closed [ ]
    Play upside down [ ]
    Play wearing shoes on your hands [ ]
    Play with Nickleback music in the background [ ]
    Play with a Bee trapped in your room [ ]
    Play with more Bees trapped in your room [ ]
    Play with even more Bees trapped in your room [ ]

    Strive for greater challenges!
    Edited by Xoelarasizerer on October 26, 2017 5:09AM
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