Can we please increase the difficulty?

akl77

He must have killed it while having 20 other players around doing the same.

Zbigb4life

If it's to easy try playing with only 1 hand

Tandor

Daus wrote: »

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

everything is scaled to your level. so what might seem easy to you might be hard for a new comer.

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This is a brand new character on a brand new server. Doesn't get newer than this other than the person behind the controller.

I have to wonder, are we even talking about the same game here? If so, I think you might be an exception to the rule when it comes to players' abilities. I'm guessing you're on the young side and have great reflexes. I'm on the older side and have been playing games since the early 80s. Yeah, sure, I know your answer is the old tried and true LTP or git gud, but just try to understand how frustrating it is to be aging and finding your reflexes not what they used to be, and some of us have physical disabilities. I can get killed by a WB any day of the week. Some day, you will be old too.

You're not incorrect. I am 29, and I am no "noob". I am not going to insult you, but may I ask? How much should an MMO cater to someone with physical limitations, and how much would it cater to someone like me? When even a WB can be solo'd from a fresh account should that not raise a red flag? You're older, and I'm assuming wiser so what are your thoughts?

You may be using a new account with no special gear and no CPs, but you're not remotely comparable to a new player. You have veteran experience of the game and all the best tactics, you know where you're going and what you're doing. You may even be one of the elite top 10% or less, who knows, but one thing you aren't is an ESO noob and that is who the low level game needs to be aimed at, not a veteran player running his umpteenth alt.

Tandor

O_LYKOS wrote: »

I solo'd normal maw when I was level 4 once.

Only once? Oh bless.

Balamoor

Mojmir wrote: »

Go fight vale guard gargoyle, then come back

THIS^^^

When I consulted with Turbine we would have whines of it's too easy consistently.

Mostly by people who either hadn't logged into the actual game in two years or more....or whose only character was some level 3 stuck in the starter zone.

mirta000b16_ESO

Tandor wrote: »

You may be using a new account with no special gear and no CPs, but you're not remotely comparable to a new player. You have veteran experience of the game and all the best tactics, you know where you're going and what you're doing. You may even be one of the elite top 10% or less, who knows, but one thing you aren't is an ESO noob and that is who the low level game needs to be aimed at, not a veteran player running his umpteenth alt.

This. I understand that it's easy for some. It's not easy for me. I can't solo WBs. Soloing dolmiens is very hard. I often die in delves. Story bosses can one hit kill me sometimes. I could not play open world if it was ultra hard honestly.

To give some history, I'm not disabled and was capable of doing FFXIV, WoW, GW2 (pre HoT) and even Wildstar's open world on my own. I even managed to casually raid in FFXIV. I understand that some don't, but I need those training wheels when I first come into a new MMO. Pre-Heavensward I was bumbling around clueless in FFXIV, pre-level 50 and some build help I was sort of struggling in Wildstar sometimes.It takes me time. And I think it takes a lot of MMO players time. Hence why we tend to have that learning period while leveling up and don't start at max level.

Milvan

I totally agree with op. Overland content and quests are way too easy and boring. No sense of achievement at all.

Sevn

Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

Still no vid yet?

Unless of course you're lying outta your [snip], which is just pathetic quite frankly. Gotta love people who showcase just how insecure they are that they turn to lying about virtual achievements in videogames to overcompensate obvious deficiencies from not having done anything that actually matters.

Gotta love people who showcase just how insecure they are that they turn to [snip] about other peoples virtual achievements in videogames to overcompensate obvious deficiencies from not having done anything that actually matters.

Reading not a strength of yours? I'm [snip] about someone LYING about their virtual achievements.

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STEVIL

an **optional** overland and delve power increase setting akin to vet and hard mode would be a nice idea.

however, it will still fail mostly since it is impossible with open shared content to get "specialized mechanics" that can be dialed in or out based on difficulty settings.

About all an overland difficulty setting can do is reduce the character effectiveness in all areas until the wolf becomes a challenge but a normal setting guy with a broom may still wipe the floor with that same wolf so... is it worth the bother?

Strider__Roshin

mirta000b16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

You may be using a new account with no special gear and no CPs, but you're not remotely comparable to a new player. You have veteran experience of the game and all the best tactics, you know where you're going and what you're doing. You may even be one of the elite top 10% or less, who knows, but one thing you aren't is an ESO noob and that is who the low level game needs to be aimed at, not a veteran player running his umpteenth alt.

This. I understand that it's easy for some. It's not easy for me. I can't solo WBs. Soloing dolmiens is very hard. I often die in delves. Story bosses can one hit kill me sometimes. I could not play open world if it was ultra hard honestly.

To give some history, I'm not disabled and was capable of doing FFXIV, WoW, GW2 (pre HoT) and even Wildstar's open world on my own. I even managed to casually raid in FFXIV. I understand that some don't, but I need those training wheels when I first come into a new MMO. Pre-Heavensward I was bumbling around clueless in FFXIV, pre-level 50 and some build help I was sort of struggling in Wildstar sometimes.It takes me time. And I think it takes a lot of MMO players time. Hence why we tend to have that learning period while leveling up and don't start at max level.

@mirta000b16_ESO what platform do you play on? If you're PS4 I can give you a hand with some tips and better gear.

MaxBat

Daus wrote: »

I created a new character on the EU server. So after exiting the tutorial I went straight to a world boss and killed it without wearing any armor, and without having any CP and being level 4. This is ridiculous.

Pretty amazing, OP. If you did it, that's awesome.

I look forward to seeing your video - you know, just so I can learn from it.

Daus wrote: »

Do I need to? Because I can make that happen for you. I'll have to make a new character though since I'm level 6 now.

Then where is it?

I'd really like to see it. Show us your lack of armor and your level 4 or lower weapon. Show use your screens so we can see what skills you're using and what CP points you've allocated. And then show us how you defeated any world boss solo.

I've been around since launch. I've run hundreds of dungeons since that time. But you are clearly better than I am. So teach me, master.

Dragonnord

There are more than 100 world bosses in the game. That specific one in Rivenspire is the only one you may kill that way. In any case, ask ZOS to "fix" that one boss. The rest are OK, more and less difficult.

mirta000b16_ESO

Daus wrote: »

@mirta000b16_ESO what platform do you play on? If you're PS4 I can give you a hand with some tips and better gear.

PC EU. I'll learn. But it will take me a while. Thankfully the open world content lets me practice without being a burden to others

mocap

I killed that 3 mages worldboss in Auridon solo with lvl 14 MagDK by spaming Burning Embers (run around from one mage to another). All green training gear. CP 570 however ) and all points was allocated.

purple-magicb16_ESO

Its not easy and its not hard. Its scaled. Btw put on some armor, no one needs to see that!

Tomg999

It doesn't matter whether what the OP says is true or not.
Clearly a majority or players are NOT finding that the ease level of the game is such that any of us can solo a WB naked at L4.
So no, the game does not need to have the difficulty increased based on this anecdotal evidence.


I also always find it odd when a claim comes off as both bragging (I can do this!") and a statement that the outcome is the norm. It kind of doesn't make sense to me.

Dahveed

The game needs a player nerf à la "Resurrection Sickness" from World of Warcraft.

People who have played that game know that when you get resurrection sickness (i.e. from not doing the corpse run in the world) you get 15 minutes of a huge debuff that reduces all your stats by something like 75%, and reduces your damage done by the same amount I believe.

They just need to put some kind of funky Mundus Stone at each starting zone in the game (for each of the 3 factions) that would do something similar. You activate the stone, accept the debuff, then continue playing the game normally, except that your character will be massively nerfed and now everything in the game just got harder.

If it's too hard you can just turn it off by hitting the stone again.

I've suggested this elsewhere, but all the snowflakes just cry about it as though it would somehow (?) affect them in any way.

Dahveed

ArchMikem wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

skinnycheeks wrote: »

Do you have full CP? The problem would be for players who don't know mechanics of the game and have no CP. It is going to be hard for them to do something like that. Would be nice if there was a hardmode overworld or something you could go to for experienced players but would probably segment the playerbase too much.

Nope. I'm max CP on NA so I decided to create a character on the EU server in hopes that the game would be fun again. Nope, still stupid easy.

Did you allocate all that CP on your new Alt? Cause that'd be why it was "still stupid easy". Even if you under Lvl50 your CP still applies it's buffs.

I see low levels all the time who are obviously new to the game and haven't started earning CP yet, and they struggle with Overland content so hard it's almost sad to watch. So the next time people like the OP is complaining about "stupid easy" content, it's your 700CP doing most of the work for you.

OP has clearly stated that he rolled on a new server, and even clarified later that he doesn't have CP.

Nestor

Irfind wrote: »

I did Soulfire Plateau with my magicka warden lvl 34, only questgear but with 560cp too.

Magic Wardens are one that can solo WB's because of their survive. Keep your Netch out, keep your heals up and take the time, you can kill a number of world bosses.

I did the Daedroth WB in Stormhaven on my L14 Warden with an L9 Pug that was hanging around. Sure, I did more running around and healing than I did damage, but we prevailed. I think the L9 only died twice.

Note I had good crafted gear (Julianos and Torugs and Elegant Jewelry) and above the CP Cap.

Amadis001

Daus wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Of course you have a video to back up your claim?

Do I need to? Because I can make that happen for you. I'll have to make a new character though since I'm level 6 now.

I think that a video of this would be totally cool.

It's hard for me to believe that there is anyone skilled enough to do this with no CP, only a couple of skills on their bar, without any passives unlocked, and with no shields. I'm sure that I was unable to defeat _any_ world boss solo until I was around CP200. Even now there are some that I can't deal with solo because of adds. At lvl 4 I would have been one-shot by most world bosses.

zyk

The OP's story isn't difficult to believe at all. I level new alts by collecting shards/lore books in each zone. I occasionally kill world bosses and they are mostly trivial, even for my low level stam characters with limited healing. It's time consuming, so I usually don't bother as the goal is to obtain skill points.

There are some WBs that are a little more challenging, but I don't think that's really the point. It goes far beyond World Bosses:

- Quest content? Why even bother having combat? Zzzzz.
- Delves are a complete joke. I could eventually complete them with a naked character with my eyes closed by spamming light attacks.
- Normal Dungeons are also a joke. Prior to the removal of vet levels, mechanics mattered in normal dungeons, but no longer. Like world bosses, there are exceptions, but this is generally true.
- Normal Trials? Just go through the motions and you will be victorious.

This happened to single player games over a decade ago. These are now entertainment products designed for people who enjoy barely interactive content, not games because there is usually no problem solving involved. Just follow the waypoint arrow and win.

You might think I'm elitist, but I consider myself to be an average gamer who is well-past his prime. I just like actual games.

Basically, gaming has been co-opted by the audience that used to watch tv 8 hours a day.

Strider__Roshin

Amadis001 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Of course you have a video to back up your claim?

Do I need to? Because I can make that happen for you. I'll have to make a new character though since I'm level 6 now.

I think that a video of this would be totally cool.

It's hard for me to believe that there is anyone skilled enough to do this with no CP, only a couple of skills on their bar, without any passives unlocked, and with no shields. I'm sure that I was unable to defeat _any_ world boss solo until I was around CP200. Even now there are some that I can't deal with solo because of adds. At lvl 4 I would have been one-shot by most world bosses.

Sigh.... I'll see. I really don't have that much free time so producing a video for the sake of appeasement just irritates me. With that said, most of the attacks performed by the world boss were very easy to avoid, and the ones that weren't were easy to dodge. By playing conservative I was able to avoid death pretty easily due to the heal from Strife. If I didn't have an ability that healed me I probably would've died from the adds.

CaffeinatedMayhem

Cadbury wrote: »

I don't even equip armor or weapons anymore.

Congratulations on figuring out hard mode!

Dusho_Edin

TBH soloing world bosses is child's play as are public dungeon. The forum warriors whine all the time content is to hard and bleh bleh bleh. I am all for this game getting a difficulty increase.. make it toggleable if you must to ease the whining. But there really is no reason to think a world bosses cannot be solo'd regardless of level esp since 90% of them can just be kited are ND in a circle so as to not ever be stuck in stupid.

bubbygink

Daus wrote: »

Also for those wondering I was using a Nightblade with the greatsword you pickup from the first guy in the Morrowind tutorial, and I was spamming Strife and Uppercut. The boss I was fighting was the one by the Serpent stone in Rivenspire. The one that does the easy to avoid ground AoE, and the easily interruptible channel. Don't recall his name I'm afraid.

Daus wrote: »

Sigh.... I'll see. I really don't have that much free time so producing a video for the sake of appeasement just irritates me. With that said, most of the attacks performed by the world boss were very easy to avoid, and the ones that weren't were easy to dodge. By playing conservative I was able to avoid death pretty easily due to the heal from Strife. If I didn't have an ability that healed me I probably would've died from the adds.

This right here pretty much tells me OP is making it up. A Fresh level 4 character with no CP or gear has basically no sustain and very low max stats. You can use strife like 5 times and then have to wait about a minute for your magicka to fill back up. You certainly can't "spam" it and it would probably be tough to even keep 100% uptime on the heal. If you're on console taking a video is basically instant. Just go kill the world boss again on your level 4 (or 6) then right after show your inventory and character screen so everyone can confirm you were naked and just using the starting 2H weapon and that you had not CP, and then just hit record the last X amount of time. At least on XBox that is all you have to do. I assume PS4 capture is similar. Would only take you an additional 30 seconds of time to make the clip.

And since you're so good at the game what is your best vMA score? I assume of course you got flawless ages ago (probably on multiple characters) and are in the very high 500s.

Adernath

zyk wrote: »

Outside of vet trials and some vet dungeons, the game is absurdly easy.

By writing that, I'm not saying players who don't find this to be true are bad gamers. It might also mean the game has never forced such players to better learn it.

At launch, levels 1-50 were very easy, but vet content was very challenging. It was made *much* easier a couple of months after launch and overland/delve content has become even easier since 1T and via power creep.

When I hit VR1 before the nerf, it was like a wall. I actually raged for a moment. But then I realized then that I had played to 50 without actually learning to play. I didn't bother learning how damage or mitigation worked, how to build characters according to the rules of the game, or even how much stamina blocking or roll dodge used.

After I learned those things, the game became easier and Vet content was a lot of fun... until it was nerfed and made easier.

I've been levelling alts lately, and find overland/delve/normal and public dungeon content to be incredibly boring. Even most vet dungeons are easy, but time consuming to solo.

I completely agree with you here. I am missing the good old days of veteran difficulty and non-nerfed abilities. There were dungeons where you get really scared and tread carefully.

Today everything is just incredibly stupid easy.

Please create new content and maps for veteran players only. We have enough beginner friendly content now.

Strider__Roshin

bubbygink wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Also for those wondering I was using a Nightblade with the greatsword you pickup from the first guy in the Morrowind tutorial, and I was spamming Strife and Uppercut. The boss I was fighting was the one by the Serpent stone in Rivenspire. The one that does the easy to avoid ground AoE, and the easily interruptible channel. Don't recall his name I'm afraid.

Daus wrote: »

Sigh.... I'll see. I really don't have that much free time so producing a video for the sake of appeasement just irritates me. With that said, most of the attacks performed by the world boss were very easy to avoid, and the ones that weren't were easy to dodge. By playing conservative I was able to avoid death pretty easily due to the heal from Strife. If I didn't have an ability that healed me I probably would've died from the adds.

This right here pretty much tells me OP is making it up. A Fresh level 4 character with no CP or gear has basically no sustain and very low max stats. You can use strife like 5 times and then have to wait about a minute for your magicka to fill back up. You certainly can't "spam" it and it would probably be tough to even keep 100% uptime on the heal. If you're on console taking a video is basically instant. Just go kill the world boss again on your level 4 (or 6) then right after show your inventory and character screen so everyone can confirm you were naked and just using the starting 2H weapon and that you had not CP, and then just hit record the last X amount of time. At least on XBox that is all you have to do. I assume PS4 capture is similar. Would only take you an additional 30 seconds of time to make the clip.

And since you're so good at the game what is your best vMA score? I assume of course you got flawless ages ago (probably on multiple characters) and are in the very high 500s.

Okay for starters casting strife once every 10 seconds isn't going to kill your resources (the duration of the heal), and heavy attack weaving uppercut is also easy on your resources. Not sure what's unbelievable about that.

Now in reference to vMA, yeah I got Flawless ages ago. I actually stopped wearing the title because it became too common a couple of patches ago. As far as my total CP, I know I'm over 900 but I stopped paying attention.

Best vMA score? Mid 500k. I don't recall the exact score, but I've never tried to get the highest score possible. Once I got the gear I wanted from it I lost interest.

Strider__Roshin

I want to clarify that I don't use uppercut in any build since it's a terrible ability in my eyes, but usually in the beginning of any stam character I usually have 1 ability from each class tree then I load up on 2H abilities in order to unlock momentum as soon as possible.

MasterSpatula

Read "joke" thread. Didn't laugh.

STEVIL

four pages of hat but not so much as one calf... hilarious.