Worst part about this sorc nerf...(Examination)

Pinja · October 2017

So just from what I've been seeing on this forum. I'm now running a theory that the actual Pvp Sorc population flat-lined back when they nerfed shields, which is why most PvE sorcs don't seem to care about the nerf at all. And the few sorcs that stayed prime in Pvp got really good to stand out, but no longer has the population to defend itself & just got hit with the biggest nerf of the class.
Like the good sorc population on xbox's 'competitive' campaign is like 7 across alliances. Everything else is just fair zerg meat no way op enough to justify a nerf of this magnitude.

So simple question for people who main sorcs, are you a Pvp regular?

Alpheu5 · October 2017

Yes, but I don't main cyrodiil

Most of my time is spent in Cyrodiil, but I like to leave and do PvE from time to time.

Onefrkncrzypope · October 2017

Sorc nerf... Bruh really

Banana · October 2017

There wasnt enough of them

Vapirko · October 2017

You think the sorc nerf is bad try playing as literally any other class for a few patches.

Strider__Roshin · October 2017

You do realize that Sorcs got buffed right? I mean, they essentially have petrify. Even DKs don't have that anymore.

Sibenice · October 2017

No, Pvps terrible

I don't actually think pvp is terrible... I just usually pvp in games that aren't MMOs. You can add an 'I don't pvp option' without labeling everyone who doesn't as pvp haters, you know. :P

RandomName123 · October 2017

Haha haha that's good. Sorcs nerfed? Easy mode. Try any other class then report back about sorc performance. I'm waiting for class change then I'll be running around with 3 sorcs

VaranisArano · October 2017

Which sorc nerf are we talking about? Maybe its because I don't main a sorc in PVP that I don't even know what the nerf is, but I find it really hard to get outraged (or even have an opinion) when I'm not even sure exactly what the post is complaining about.

I'm guessing that this is about the armor thing so that sorcs actually have to wear 5 pieces of light armor in order to use the light armor shield in order to shield stack? All I'm saying is that some clarity would be nice so I can figure out whether I should be outraged or not.

Rainraven · October 2017

Yes, I'm full Pvp.

Daus wrote: »

You do realize that Sorcs got buffed right? I mean, they essentially have petrify. Even DKs don't have that anymore.

I'm as tired as anybody of all the sorc whining (seriously!) but removing the stun from frags is a slap to the class right up there with borking petrify and repentance.

It'll have zero impact for me personally in PVP, since I dropped frags a while ago in Cyrodiil, but it's depressing and crummy in PVE. I miss it! :'( It was fun.

But yeah, we're fine. Sky not falling. Just

RandomName123 · October 2017

VaranisArano wrote: »

Which sorc nerf are we talking about? Maybe its because I don't main a sorc in PVP that I don't even know what the nerf is, but I find it really hard to get outraged (or even have an opinion) when I'm not even sure exactly what the post is complaining about.

I'm guessing that this is about the armor thing so that sorcs actually have to wear 5 pieces of light armor in order to use the light armor shield in order to shield stack? All I'm saying is that some clarity would be nice so I can figure out whether I should be outraged or not.

It's that sorc nerf where they gave them the DKs petrify at 41m in PvP, while reducing the range of DKs petrify.. Oh wait...

GrigorijMalahevich · October 2017

Yes, I do small 1vX (<5)

I was totally against 3shield + mines gameplay as I considered it a cheese, but now, as a protest it is all back to "the cheese game"...

I will abuse the apples from 3shield and mines combo...

P.S. as I mentioned before, removing stun from frags is the most clueless nerf in ESO history... No more stun. Magsorc is now just useless in 1vX

ADarklore · October 2017

Not really sure many people care about Sorc nerfs other than Sorcs; most non-Sorc players have been asking for them to be nerfed since Sorcs have been OP for months now. Perhaps this will bring them closer to where other classes are at the moment.

AtraisMachina · October 2017

No, Pvps terrible

Its not because of me. Its because of you.

Vaoh · October 2017

No, Pvps terrible

I used to only play solo PvP and was *amazing* at it. I used to 1vX entire zergs of players and think nothing of it at all. My regen was always around 4K but my damage high enough to kill since Heavy Armor was rare and there weren’t a million different things in place to stop 1vX like there are now.

Nowadays there is no true PvP left besides engaging a full-blown Zerg of tank builds in an enormous lag fest. PvP is absolutely aweful and I have avoided it almost entirely since One Tamriel, and regret any time I feel the urge to return.

BGs were fun but since CP is being added I am quitting that as well.

Vaoh · October 2017

No, Pvps terrible

ZOS decided to wait until campaigns empty out as a solution to fix lag

Vizier · October 2017

WUT NERF?

Shadzilla · October 2017

You misread the patch notes, sorcs were buffed not nerfed. Although your literary skills may have been nerfed.

Pinja · October 2017

Shadzilla wrote: »

You misread the patch notes, sorcs were buffed not nerfed. Although your literary skills may have been nerfed.

ToRelax wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Here's the cost comparison (in 5 light + Unholy Knowledge passive)

Comes out to a 62.6% cost increase in practice.

Rune Prison: Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 16%.

Hilariously incompetent math/bold faced lies aside, can't say I disagree with this cost increase. It makes sense and brings the cost in line with other hard stuns.

That being said, the whole set of changes is just dumb. Giving an unwanted buff to a skill and then gutting a core class ability to compensate. Unless you consider the alternative. That they were intending to nerf frags from the beginning and offer force rune prison as an alternative, but presented the changes in reverse so as to cull dissent and ensure their way gets implemented with little push back, resistance, or dialogue. If you think about it, they have been doing that a lot lately. I know they don't come up with balance change ideas in the middle of a pts cycle...these things are surely discussed and hammered out in advance. So ask yourself, why have they only in recent patches started releasing balance changes in a staggered manner with major changes being announced towards the end of the pts?

Ultimately it's their game and they can do whatever they want. But this kind of duplicitous and neglectful behavior is unsavory, and not one I am keen on being a patron of.

True.

They did have to come up with a new way to sell their nerfs as the whole "This will be a buff if..." tactic did not work so well.

Instead ZOS is now promoting "much more interesting" choices.

Come on man get with the times, we just got gutted.

GrigorijMalahevich · October 2017

Yes, I do small 1vX (<5)

That moment when you want to nerf one skill and buff alternative to get it used more, so you move stun from frags to crystal blast... but only place where crystal blast has atleast one chance to get used is PvE, but stun doesn't apply to bosses... then you realise that cast time abilities are not used in any part of the game...

Bad ideas that no one asked for are bad

Hulking vs necro - necro gives 600 magicka more, but requires player to sacrifice one or two skill slots... maybe make it even??? We don't have same logic with julianos vs hunding... why?

Common sense is not that common. Rare as unicorns.

Heka Cain · October 2017

They nerf one toon...I jump on another toon!

bardx86 · October 2017

Heka Cain wrote: »

They nerf one toon...I jump on another toon!

good for you, some of us have a life.

VaranisArano · October 2017

See, this is why clarity is necessary! Which sorc nerf should I be outraged about? Having to wear light armor to shield stack? The changes to crystal frags? Both?

Pinja · October 2017

Another thing to highlight this concept. How much more do you say, "I got sniped or ganked by a nightblade." Than you say, I got burst by a sorc. It's just that a sorc is more flashy & more rememberable as you had 4+ seconds to stain a purple image in your brain. Where as a nightblade would just 1 frame u, disappear, & walk of scot free not even to be remembered as it happens so often.
Like you say naw, but ya, when considering the same victim base.

Runschei · October 2017

I have two sorcs. One is a crafter only and the other has been collecting dust for a year, and will continue to do.

pieratsos · October 2017

Daus wrote: »

You do realize that Sorcs got buffed right? I mean, they essentially have petrify. Even DKs don't have that anymore.

*facepalm*

generalmyrick · October 2017

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

Sorc nerf... Bruh really

^

Bonzodog01 · October 2017

Well, at least stamblades (the class I now main) are still in a nice place in both PvP and PvE. No complaints from me.

Girl_Number8 · October 2017

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

Well, at least stamblades (the class I now main) are still in a nice place in both PvP and PvE. No complaints from me.

Yes, they need to nerf incap ult and raise the cost, nerf soul assault and raise the cost, nerf poisons, and get rid of perma-steath builds.

They nerfed every defensive support ults in pvp. We just really need to nerf nightblades, and poisons for the health of the game.

Biro123 · October 2017

Yes, I'm full Pvp.

Sorc main - Always PVP

But levelling up a Magblade with the witches festival xp boost at the mo...

Vicarra · October 2017

No, Pvps terrible

For the longest time, Sorcs were the weakest class, and every other class was happy because they were easy meat. Now that they are on the same level and competitive as anyone else, people have to actually think and work for their kills. Hence the endless crying that sorcs should be nerfed.

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