Thunderknuckles wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

I have to agree with @PlagueSD on that one... Never seen a tank with 25k+ health and 30k resistance holding block die to minotuar hit.

With proper use of skills and mitigation it should never ever come close to killing you. A smart player, and I'm using that term loosely, would never die to something like that. Unless your out of Stam, which would indicate you poorly managed it, you'd never not be able to block it, and it's not like it hits for 100k unmitigated. At Max resistance with a regular tank set up on a DK, you'd need to be hit by an ability that deals 70k unmitigated damage, in order to deal 25k health worth on a roughly Max resistance tank holding block. I might be slightly off on that and I don't remember the exact values of the hits, but I know on my dps he's never been hit for 70k, and all he has is 5-1-1 light armor setup.

Point being if you know what your doing, the only true one shot mechanics are ones you aren't going to live from no matter what.

There's a surprising amount of people that don't know how to play this game the way they designed it. There is however, a large number of players who play how it was intended.

Designed and intended are two different things. Play as you want is the intended, but the design doesn't allow a bow wielding Magicka sorc, or staff wilding Stam dk or hybrid whatever. Not in the hard content at least.

On topic, I think there should be two different rankings here. PUG vs Coordinated.

For pug vet, I'd have to say RoM because if no one knows what they're doing, your either going to fall apart or be there for a long while. At least in my experience.

For coordinated groups, I'd have to go with cradle, mostly because not many people know about the ultimate eating and it ends up becoming a sustain slugfest.

My 2 septims

You misread what I said because I actually said I have seen them one shot players with 35k+ health (not 25k) and 30k + resistance. And I have.

If you don't believe me it's easy enough for you to go test yourself. Just put on some health and resistance gear and go block one of their heavy attacks and see what happens.

The DLC dungeons on veteran mode are not easy on this game and I'm not too proud to admit it. In my experience, it takes specialized character builds and experienced players familiar with the mechanics - and even then wipes are not uncommon. Frankly i don't know what kind of sadistic and torturous game play would satisfy some players on this forum who are saying they are easy. Apparently instant death from a single mistake is not good enough. Perhaps they should create a dungeon that literally kills everyone the second they walk in unless they have the meta build and the best gear available coupled with some annoying and complicated random puzzle that starts new every time you enter the dungeon that instantly kills you if you don't figure it out in time.

Hey Jeremy, this may not quite be the same as what you're talking about, and it was a different dungeon, but we had some one shot attacks going on in NORMAL Bloodroot last night. The tank is quite capable with massive health and damage mit, but Stoneheart was punching right through all of it on a regular basis and dropping this guy in 2 seconds. It was very odd and the first time we'd had anything like it happen in that dungeon. We seriously thought it was glitching. Even the trash mobs were dealing out what seemed like much more damage. It was so strange that we checked to make sure we hadn't queued veteran by mistake. LOL

My point is: can these dungeons get glitchy where bosses and mobs are dealing out much more damage than they should be? Also, did I just go totally off topic on this? LOL

Loc2262 wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

My point is: can these dungeons get glitchy where bosses and mobs are dealing out much more damage than they should be?

Not sure if it's the case at the moment, but yeah, it has happened before that normal dungeon mobs deal more damage than their vet counterparts. Was quite a while ago though and got fixed 1-2 weeks later.

PlagueSD wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

Loc2262 wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

My point is: can these dungeons get glitchy where bosses and mobs are dealing out much more damage than they should be?

Not sure if it's the case at the moment, but yeah, it has happened before that normal dungeon mobs deal more damage than their vet counterparts. Was quite a while ago though and got fixed 1-2 weeks later.

Hmmm, very curious then. We have never had the problems with that boss like we did the other night, and watching our tank burn down in 2 seconds left us all just scratching our heads and saying, "What the...??" We just gave up after about 6 tries. My own healer was taking extraordinary damage from trash mobs tossing flame attacks at me, which is extremely unusual, but I healed through it. Anyway, the whole thing was bizarre even for that dungeon on normal.

You sure that wasn't the random fire AoE from Falkreath Hold being attacked? I know if you get hit by those, they hurt...even on normal.

themaddaedra wrote: »

Ruins of Mazzatun? Come on people i now finish RoM hm as healtank with 3 dds beside me