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Do you like upcoming retraiting?
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Retraiting is coming. But what impact will it have in the game?
Positiv or negativ?
Edited by jeedrzej on September 4, 2017 9:27AM Positiv or negativ?
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Do you like upcoming retraiting? 375 votes
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No
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✭✭YesVery positive impact. I think most people really hate running the same dungeon over and over to try to get some item in the right trait.
Would've preferred that all the loot from dungeons and trials be changed to bind on equip, but this might be a fun solution as well.
Edited by IcyDeadPeople on September 4, 2017 10:39AM8 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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I like the idea of it, but it really depends how they're implementing it, I need details to really have an opinion on how it will impact the game.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭Retraiting is coming. But what impact will it have in the game?
Positiv or negativ?
What, where, how? Please provide a link to something that suggests it is coming? (I can't see anything on the news page, don't point me towards some video because I'm deaf).Edited by Epona222 on September 4, 2017 9:31AMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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@Epona222 was streamed live from PAX last night. MissBizz has a thread with info and links.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/369897/news-on-cwc-highlights-in-bullet-points-pts-this-month
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@Epona222 was streamed live from PAX last night. MissBizz has a thread with info and links.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/369897/news-on-cwc-highlights-in-bullet-points-pts-this-month
ty for the link, much appreciated
I wonder what it means though, that there is something about it they won't discuss. I bet it will involve something from the Crown Store. If so, that would go back on any promise they ever made that crown store would never be P2W.Edited by Epona222 on September 4, 2017 9:33AMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭Yes and no. Yes because I can use it, but no because everyone else can lmao. I won't be able to rip people off with exorbitant fees for sharpened weapons anymore.0 -
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✭✭✭✭YesI'm only afraid that this "additional requirement" neccesary for changing trait will take more time to grind, that the weapon itself...14 -
Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm only afraid that this "additional requirement" neccesary for changing trait will take more time to grind, that the weapon itself...
Might be like the cipher - LOLGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭YesWhat arguments have those who said no? I'm curious about it.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoWhat arguments have those who said no? I'm curious about it.
Mainly because the reason people want it is so they only have to run the content once or at most a few times and then whatever drops they can change to how they want it. That may be an over-simplification but it means that they will complain instead about the lack of things to do or else, depending on how it's implemented, about the grind involved in getting the additional item(s) needed to do the re-trait.
As so often with MMOs, "quality of life improvement" is really just a euphemism for "dumbing down".Edited by Tandor on September 4, 2017 12:35PM5 -
Demycilian✭✭✭✭NoWhat arguments have those who said no? I'm curious about it.
Its dumping down content and will once again diminish the experience of achievement, progression and value in this game. More dedicated players usually lament it as a game "becoming casual". One poor substitute for creative content developement or fixing issues this is going to be.
Its boths cheap and lame.
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✭✭"Another Component" aka a 5k crowns item from the crown store XDEdited by Tyrobag on September 4, 2017 1:16PM5 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭YesDemycilian wrote: »What arguments have those who said no? I'm curious about it.
Its dumping down content and will once again diminish the experience of achievement, progression and value in this game. More dedicated players usually lament it as a game "becoming casual". One poor substitute for creative content developement or fixing issues this is going to be.
Its boths cheap and lame.
Cheers
There's plenty of things to do in game, so no need to force people to endlessly repeat things over and over until the RNG gods gives their blessing. That's just extremely bad gameplay design.
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✭✭YesOnly in the case where we can " retrait " dungeon/trials gear.
This would just be a Troll like " morag tong/imperial converter " if this only work with crafted gear ...5 -
Akrasjel✭✭✭✭It depends on the cost of doing it with those "Extra Component" and how rare/common they will be.[PC][EU][Daggerfall Covenant]
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Pr0Skygon✭✭✭✭✭YesThe only real "down side" to this change will be its effect on market. But since it's announced months in advance like this, I think players will surely have enough time to adapt.
And please don't tell me about the "no body will run the content anymore", because if players love PvE, they'll run dungeons and trials for no reason. If they don't like PvE, don't force them to grind just for vMA weapons
And compare to those 2 down sides, the positive side of things are just way too BIG!!!!4 -
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No take my take on the re-trait, you get one stone for running dungeons, you need say 5 or 8 to change an trait.What arguments have those who said no? I'm curious about it.
Mainly because the reason people want it is so they only have to run the content once or at most a few times and then whatever drops they can change to how they want it. That may be an over-simplification but it means that they will complain instead about the lack of things to do or else, depending on how it's implemented, about the grind involved in getting the additional item(s) needed to do the re-trait.
As so often with MMOs, "quality of life improvement" is really just a euphemism for "dumbing down".
Think this is pretty realistic.
Now you can select, farm the same dungeon, hoping to get good trait items and getting more stone or do other dungeons who are easier, more fun or have pledges.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭From experience, it will be implemented in such a way that all the huge, trading guilds will make even more gold.
Or... it will be more RNG, that will cost you a ton of gold and a lot of time.
I'd rather have weapon dyes already!PC - EU:
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far over 20 runs in WGT, 1 infused SPC pants, multiple armor sets in training, well fitted and the prosperous replacement.From experience, it will be implemented in such a way that all the huge, trading guilds will make even more gold.
Or... it will be more RNG, that will cost you a ton of gold and a lot of time.
I'd rather have weapon dyes already!
Defending resto staff.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Sindarin✭✭✭NoThe only real "down side" to this change will be its effect on market. But since it's announced months in advance like this, I think players will surely have enough time to adapt.
And please don't tell me about the "no body will run the content anymore", because if players love PvE, they'll run dungeons and trials for no reason. If they don't like PvE, don't force them to grind just for vMA weapons
And compare to those 2 down sides, the positive side of things are just way too BIG!!!!
I preffer to have a reason....
I can farm sets for myself or help my guildies, but running for no reason I can run around wayshrine in Wayrest as well. boooooring.
It's seems like ESO want to be as close to ES as possible, play max one month and have everything, then u can find another game XD
- me too ^^ and possibility to change how my gear looks (especially the dropped one). They could make motifs more expensive instead of making farming sets with good traits useless.From experience, it will be implemented in such a way that all the huge, trading guilds will make even more gold.
Or... it will be more RNG, that will cost you a ton of gold and a lot of time.
I'd rather have weapon dyes already!
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Jemcrystal✭✭✭✭✭Other.
To little known about it's limitations, if any, atm. And how it will effect the game overall. First off, I assume this is for everyone who owns the base game? I mean it's not locked behind the purchase of the DLC? So only those with the DLC/sub can access this?
Next, will it apply to all items in game or is this for crafted items only? Does this work on dungeon drop items?2 -
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Crafted items only would make it totally pointless, think we can assume all items.Jemcrystal wrote: »Other.
To little known about it's limitations, if any, atm. And how it will effect the game overall. First off, I assume this is for everyone who owns the base game? I mean it's not locked behind the purchase of the DLC? So only those with the DLC/sub can access this?
Next, will it apply to all items in game or is this for crafted items only? Does this work on dungeon drop items?
We do not know how we will get the trait change stones, think we can assume it will consume some item.
If we need an special trait change station in the clockwork city, or the stones are only from the new zone and BoP you will need it, if you get them from dungeon runs or buy them with writs vouchers and use normal crafting stations then all can use them.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Denyiir✭✭✭✭Anyone else have a feeling they'll ruin it somehow xD? It seems too good to be true... Hopefuly I'm wrong.1 -
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@Epona222 was streamed live from PAX last night. MissBizz has a thread with info and links.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/369897/news-on-cwc-highlights-in-bullet-points-pts-this-month
ty for the link, much appreciated
I wonder what it means though, that there is something about it they won't discuss. I bet it will involve something from the Crown Store. If so, that would go back on any promise they ever made that crown store would never be P2W.
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jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭So that once I have a piece of each SPC I won't need to run WGT anymore, given I will be able to retrait it. I can already see all those DD in queue waiting for like 6 hours for a healer to go play with them. Reducing the numberr of people farming, will drastically reduce the number of tanks and healers in queue, thus making it impossible for any DD to enter at all.
I would do the opposite: provide more reasons for people to run the same dungeon over and over during the same day. Run this dungeons three times. Run this dungeon both in normal and veteran.
Farming is frustrating because you end up getting nothing at the end of the run. Give something!"Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
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✭YesThis is great news but the aditional item will probably cost alot. My bet is it's gonna be one of the most expensive voucher item.
I hope it's that and not an ultra rare RNG based drop.PC/DC/NAserver
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Reiterating's gonna be great!
I'll say it again..
Reiterating's gonna be great!.
I'll get my coat...
but nah, my feeling is that you'll need drops from end-bosses in dungeons as a re-traiting ingredient to make people still run dungeons..Minalan owes me a beer.
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