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Coilbox
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I CAN'T wait to get home today and see all those proc-based players getting their arses broken without the explosion of damage the 'triple proc combo' grants you...

I never complained about proc sets, never insulted anyone using them... basically cause if it's an option the game brings you it's not the players fault. To be honest, ambushing someone from stealth and delivering an insane amount of damage in 2 hits, not giving a second to that enemy to react is too tempting, easy AP and all...

But today... awh man... if all you had to offer was relying on your procsets to bring all the cheese on the enemys face you will struggle from now on... your enemy is not just gonna blow up instantly, he/she will have time to react and fight back in many cases and then the fight will be a bit more skill-based than just hitting 2 or 3 buttons.

Also, the way these sets have been tuned down is great in my opinion, they wont be OP in cyrodiil, and wont be just *** in PVE, cause the damage will still be there, just not straight away.

I dont think it's easy to balance both PVP and PVE together simply cause they work differently in so many aspects... so if ZOS keep their idea of doing it all together, it's going to be more a fail than success most of the times. In any case, this change in sets that were a problem in PVP, is a step in the right direction in my opinion.

Clever nerfing ZOS! :smile:
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    There never will be a cheese free Cyrodiil. The cheese just changes every 3 to 6 months. We know Uncle Sheo does approve.
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  • Drazkyth
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    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.
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  • Coilbox
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.

    Of course there will be always something, whinners will always whine.
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  • HairyFairy
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    Sounds like @Drazkyth had tasted the cheese. Uncle Sheo even salts his cheese
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    Would you like some whine with that cheese!! *sorry couldnt resist*
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  • Drazkyth
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    HairyFairy wrote: »
    Sounds like @Drazkyth had tasted the cheese. Uncle Sheo even salts his cheese

    Your skills of perception are lacking my friend ;)

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    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me
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    Wolfkeks wrote: »
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    :D Brilliant
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.
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  • rootimus
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.

    You think the forum is bad? You should see AD local chat out there 99% of the time.
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  • Drazkyth
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    rootimus wrote: »
    Drazkyth wrote: »
    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.

    You think the forum is bad? You should see AD local chat out there 99% of the time.

    It's the same on EP buddy :D
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    Lol, if you think the torug's pact oblivion infused enchants aren't going to be cheese you're wrong, because everyone and their mother will run those.
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  • Countcalorie
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    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.
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  • Coilbox
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    Correct me if im wrong, but i readed somewhere that Torugs Pact was overperforming due to a bug or something and it was gonna be fixed in the official patch today...?
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  • Drazkyth
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    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and shieldbreaker lol.
    Edited by Drazkyth on August 14, 2017 11:17AM
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    Coilbox wrote: »
    Correct me if im wrong, but i readed somewhere that Torugs Pact was overperforming due to a bug or something and it was gonna be fixed in the official patch today...?

    Yes, fixed in last PTS patch.
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  • Countcalorie
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and shieldbreaker lol.

    getting fixed unfortunately :(
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  • Drazkyth
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    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are always easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and sheidbreaker lol.
    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Drazkyth wrote: »
    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and shieldbreaker lol.

    getting fixed unfortunately :(

    Awww. We'll find a new way. To be honest the majority of magsorcs suck anyway so they aren't hard to kill. Now a skilled player wielding a magsorc is a real pain in the ***.
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and shieldbreaker lol.

    Rip most broken set in the game (thank god, but still pretty broken) but enjoy the torug's pact spam!
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  • Drazkyth
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    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    Drazkyth wrote: »
    Countcalorie wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Torugs pact+ infuse oblivion enchant smells like the new cheese to me

    Everyone that just reads the QQ and doesn't investigate will be in ruin after today's patch, the first thing I will do when patch notes come up is CTRL + F and type Torug and Infused. I hope they nerf it already because this will become one of the worst meta's.

    I hope it ruins magsorc builds.but then we would have 100 times the amount of QQ threads about it then if its a hard counter to something like dks or templars.Sorc mains are stereotypicly the saltiest players.

    Shield spamming magsorcs are easy to counter with an infused oblivion damage lightning staff and shieldbreaker lol.

    Rip most broken set in the game (thank god, but still pretty broken) but enjoy the torug's pact spam!

    I don't and won't have a Torugs pact set but whatever x)
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  • Electrone_Magnus
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    I wish they made it so that everyone gets the same gear in pvp areas kinda like the division or gw2. Like mag sorcs are only permitted to run 5 julianos 3 willpower 2 monster and random staff. That way there would be no more proc sets and everyone has the same gear so it will be easier for new players to get into pvp too.
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    rootimus wrote: »
    Drazkyth wrote: »
    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.

    You think the forum is bad? You should see AD local chat out there 99% of the time.

    It's the same on EP buddy :D

    That's a truly terrifying thought.
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    Electrone_Magnus wrote: »
    I wish they made it so that everyone gets the same gear in pvp areas kinda like the division or gw2. Like mag sorcs are only permitted to run 5 julianos 3 willpower 2 monster and random staff. That way there would be no more proc sets and everyone has the same gear so it will be easier for new players to get into pvp too.

    No, just no. Building a setup is probably one of my favourite things about ESO PvP. Why do you people want to limit player options? Silly.
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    Electrone_Magnus wrote: »
    I wish they made it so that everyone gets the same gear in pvp areas kinda like the division or gw2. Like mag sorcs are only permitted to run 5 julianos 3 willpower 2 monster and random staff. That way there would be no more proc sets and everyone has the same gear so it will be easier for new players to get into pvp too.

    So no build diversity? No way of encouraging people to play the game uniquely and kick ass?

    Sorry, don't think so. There's a reason why this game, in my opinion, stands out in its diversity compared to gear that directly translates to skill in games like BDO or WoW.
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    rootimus wrote: »
    Drazkyth wrote: »
    There will always be something in Cyrodiil making people QQ on the forums, just get over it.

    You think the forum is bad? You should see AD local chat out there 99% of the time.

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    There will always be cheese so long as people uses macro's in pvp
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    Drazkyth wrote: »
    Electrone_Magnus wrote: »
    I wish they made it so that everyone gets the same gear in pvp areas kinda like the division or gw2. Like mag sorcs are only permitted to run 5 julianos 3 willpower 2 monster and random staff. That way there would be no more proc sets and everyone has the same gear so it will be easier for new players to get into pvp too.

    No, just no. Building a setup is probably one of my favourite things about ESO PvP. Why do you people want to limit player options? Silly.

    Seriously. I'd be rich. Maybe even have a chance to "git gud " because I'd be forced to learn one build and save a lot of gold and mats from no longer chasing the next idea I had. But I'd be bored.
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    Omg ! Skoria has no nerf !? Jesus ! :((( skoria for every player build now ! :(((
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  • Sheylara
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    Could someone please explain what "cheese" means in this context and how did this word usage come about? :confused:

    I keep seeing people talk about cheese. What's with all the cheese?
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