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Is Horns of the reach better than Shadows of the hist ?
RupzSkooma
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I have not played the PTS .
Don't know if I should buy it or skip it .
I know the difference in content . But I am asking about other factors like dungeon design , fun factor and etc .
Edited by RupzSkooma on August 3, 2017 10:20AM Don't know if I should buy it or skip it .
I know the difference in content . But I am asking about other factors like dungeon design , fun factor and etc .
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Is Horns of the reach better than Shadows of the hist ? 49 votes
Yes , it is much better.
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11 votes
Yes , it is slightly better.
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12 votes
No ,it is the same.
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15 votes
No, it is worse .
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SammyFable✭✭✭✭Yes , it is slightly better.I kinda like the design of the dungeons more than the SotH ones, but they're just too easy.1
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Rox83✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »I kinda like the design of the dungeons more than the SotH ones, but they're just too easy.
Did you try it on a Template character? Have you tried it on a fresh level 10 character?0 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes , it is slightly better.From what I've heard from friends, the dungeons are actually fun and stuff. Mazzatun and Cradle of Shadows can be so darn tedious at times."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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BrianDavion✭✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »I kinda like the design of the dungeons more than the SotH ones, but they're just too easy.
could be that ZOS learned from shadows. when you're trying to sell a dungeon DLC as a stand alone, you don't wanna aim them at the "PVE elite" as it where. make em accessable and everyone will be more incliend to buy it. as it is I've been actively warning people away from buying shadows of the hist5 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes , it is slightly better.Alot of the balance changes and fixes were good ones..... all though there is still plenty of work to be done imo.PS4 NA DC0 -
Alpheu5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No ,it is the same.The trash mobs in between have varying threat levels, with some slight mechanics to pay attention to. All the bosses are mechanics-heavy and rely more on situational awareness than pure DPS, especially the one fight where not paying attention has the risk of killing the whole team. The final boss for one of the dungeons covers up so much space in the arena, and there's so much going on inside, that it'll probably take PuGs a few dozen tries on vet to work up the coordination to pull through it on hard mode.
Now it's up to you to determine if I'm talking about SotH or HotR.
Even if I didn't have ESO+ I'd buy the dungeon like I did with SotH because I really enjoy mechanics-heavy gameplay, and the devs are getting better at making mechanics knowledge more important than raw team damage output.Edited by Alpheu5 on August 4, 2017 12:15AMDalek-Rok - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Shād - Argonian Nightblade || Dalek-Shul - Argonian Templar || Dalek-Xal - Argonian Dragonknight || Mounts-the-Snout - Argonian Warden || Dalek-Xul - Argonian Necromancer || Two-Spires - Argonian Arcanist || Dalek-Nesh - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Kör - Argonian DragonknightJudas Helviaryn wrote: »Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BrianDavion wrote: »SammyFable wrote: »I kinda like the design of the dungeons more than the SotH ones, but they're just too easy.
could be that ZOS learned from shadows. when you're trying to sell a dungeon DLC as a stand alone, you don't wanna aim them at the "PVE elite" as it where. make em accessable and everyone will be more incliend to buy it. as it is I've been actively warning people away from buying shadows of the hist
Yeah, I'd have to preface to anyone asking about SotH "are you finding all the other vet HM dungeons too easy? Because if you are, SotH is for you!
If you think normal is a fun challenge and some HM are impossible, then don't spend the money on SotH0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No ,it is the same.Depends on the dungeon. Falkreath fits the "same" category. Bloodroot is more fun and engaging than Falkreath or either of the SotH dungeons.
In any case, if you liked SotH, you'll love HotR. If you hated SotH, you'll probably hate HotR as well.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes , it is much better.Yes it is better - much better.
For there is now the possibility to obtain a bath tub!
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Tyrion87✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What I am concerned about the most is the difficulty. I heard they are easier than the SotH dungeons (and even IC ones) which is a shame. I think I won't be playing them as often as I do with the Hist ones. Easy content is boring content. Atm I don't even bother with vanilla dungeons cause I'm bored to death when doing them.0 -
FakeFox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, it is worse .I like the dungeon design more, but its over all too easy to be fun in my opinion. The mechanics are cool, just like in SotH, but far to self explanatory. You die once, instantly understand what to do to prevent it and it's never a challenge again. My group got through both dungeons on vet with a few death and like 3-4 wipes each, even though we had to use templates and PTS was laggy as hell. And I know from other groups that it was pretty much the same for them.Edited by FakeFox on August 9, 2017 12:50PMEU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)0 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes , it is much better.One introduced proc set imbalance, and one is removing it. And it only took em a year to get it right!0 -
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✭No ,it is the same.In terms of Value of content for Money it's almost same...Urban.Monk
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✭✭I have bought all dlcs except the dungeon ones but have eso plus.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No ,it is the same.Horns have somehow usefull heavy set, it plus for dlc. It has only one skin, it minus. So, in the end it equal to Shadow.0 -
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✭SantieClaws wrote: »Yes it is better - much better.
For there is now the possibility to obtain a bath tub!
Yours with paws
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My Beautiful Lake Lodge feels incomplete without this tub. Do you know how hard it is to stay clean in Vvardenfell?
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The Sooner some brave heroes travel to that nordic forest and take care of some ghastly man bull creatures the sooner my Hlaalu trader will finally provide me with a good honest tub.
About time if you ask me! maybe Nirn as a whole can become a cleaner place.0 -
RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭No, it is worse .Putting the skin in the crown store instead of linking it with the overall achievement was cheap and is coloring my view of the dlc quite a lot. However in terms of dungeon design, it is good to see that there are various mechanics in these new dungeons (including shadows of the hist). The non-lava dungeon could be a bit more difficult.Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar0
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✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, without having the ability to test anymore I cant say, but given what people are saying in reguards to 'if you liked shadows you'll like this' I probably wont spend the money, due to me hating the whole ultra hard craze thing Zenimax is trying to appeal to.0 -
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✭Do you also want to have an argument about whether the Browns are better than the Jets?I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes , it is slightly better.Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Honestly, without having the ability to test anymore I cant say, but given what people are saying in reguards to 'if you liked shadows you'll like this' I probably wont spend the money, due to me hating the whole ultra hard craze thing Zenimax is trying to appeal to.
If you want to play casual, simply click "normal" on the dungeon finder before entering.
That said, the difficulty is a bit easier than Shadows of the Hist.0