Will we be keeping the Xarxes and Kastav campaigns after the end of Midyear Mayhem?

NightbladeMechanics · July 2017

Does NA/PC have a sufficient PvP population to support four campaigns, or are we hoping this event will create enough new regular PvPers to keep them filled?

Aliyavana · July 2017

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

mesmerizedish · July 2017

The devs will probably see how many players keep playing and decide whether or not they're warranted. My prediction is that they won't be.

apostate9 · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

PVP ZONES ARE FOR PVP. Someday you will twig on, they don't have to and aren't going to, give you some stupid end-around way to get Cyrodiil rewards while avoiding the entire point of that zone.

KingJ · July 2017

apostate9 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

PVP ZONES ARE FOR PVP. Someday you will twig on, they don't have to and aren't going to, give you some stupid end-around way to get Cyrodiil rewards while avoiding the entire point of that zone.

They have weren't you around during the last Double AP event people are still doing it now.

SanTii.92 · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

If you are a completionist you should get good at pvp. How are you gonna get alliance ranks otherwise.

KingJ · July 2017

SanTii.92 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

If you are a completionist you should get good at pvp. How are you gonna get alliance ranks otherwise.

By exploiting.

starkerealm · July 2017

apostate9 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

But... the bosses are the ones that drop the pieces...

code65536 · July 2017

LOL, there's no way these campaigns will survive. They're already dead and empty and used just for emp flipping. Imagine how much more dead they'll be once the event ends.

Anne_Firehawk · July 2017

Lol I hope they gonna delete them straight away on monday - as soon as the event is over.

Malmai · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

I highly doubt that real PVPr will wait for u in middle of nowhere just waiting to gank you. Its actually another PVEr whos making quests like you but he saw opportunity to gank you... Haha i bet thats happening... Harrased by questing PVEr.

BraidasNM · July 2017

they should get deleted, even shor was pretty much a pvdoor server (aside from a few hours at primetime) before the event

StormWylf · July 2017

BraidasNM wrote: »

they should get deleted, even shor was pretty much a pvdoor server (aside from a few hours at primetime) before the event

I think I am misreading your post, are you suggestive shutting down PvP all together?

Artis · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

That passive aggressive attitude lol

No, what you said is very puzzling. If you are a completionist - aren't you supposed to get everything? Then you are forced to do the pvp objectives as well.

AzraelKrieg · July 2017

I don't think they'll remain after the event. They were added as a response to the long queue times due to the event and everyone trying to get in. Once the event ends, Vivec will be normal and Shor will be the alternative CP campaign for people that can't get into Shor.

BraidasNM · July 2017

StormWylf wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

they should get deleted, even shor was pretty much a pvdoor server (aside from a few hours at primetime) before the event

I think I am misreading your post, are you suggestive shutting down PvP all together?

there are 3 other campaigns besides xerxes, kastav, and shor...not that im saying shor should be closed, just that even it was mostly dead b4 the event

thawks · July 2017

I've had more fun on Kastav than in any other campaign previously. Much less toxicity, great leaders (apart from some really thirsty wannabe Emperors), many new PvPers who get to learn at their own pace. I don't think it'll stay, and most of the more experienced players will probably move back to their main campaigns once the number of PvP players goes back to normal and it's less laggy. But it's been a real fun ride both while winning and losing.

raj72616a · July 2017

Malmai wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

I highly doubt that real PVPr will wait for u in middle of nowhere just waiting to gank you. Its actually another PVEr whos making quests like you but he saw opportunity to gank you... Haha i bet thats happening... Harrased by questing PVEr.

nah cp800 pvers don't camp at chey quest giver to gank lv20 questers for half and hour. those gankers are pvpers.

Aliyavana · July 2017

apostate9 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

PVP ZONES ARE FOR PVP. Someday you will twig on, they don't have to and aren't going to, give you some stupid end-around way to get Cyrodiil rewards while avoiding the entire point of that zone.

I dont hate pvp, i hate being ganked sent from a delve near ep gates all the way back to roe because when you get ganked in a delve on a delve deep in ep territory and you have to run all the way back from the closest keep, say roe, it makes for some aggravating gameplay esp if you have a slow mount. atleast in pve if you die in say city of ash you don't get sent halfway across valenwood just so you can go and reenter the delve and hope a pvper doesn't think the ap on your head is worth sending you to go back into your territory again and repeat the process again... there is a reason cyrodil is called horse simulator. I don't like it when pve is paired with pvp, I wish the two were separated completely. TLDR, I like pvp when I feel like pvping, I like pveing when I like pveing, I don't like both at the same time...

SanTii.92 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

If you are a completionist you should get good at pvp. How are you gonna get alliance ranks otherwise.

Zerging and getting a throwing aoes into enemy zergs will net you a lot of ap, no skill required. I'm a rank 27 as of this event. rank isn't a indication of skill but of time spent.

Artis wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

That passive aggressive attitude lol

No, what you said is very puzzling. If you are a completionist - aren't you supposed to get everything? Then you are forced to do the pvp objectives as well.

Yah but because I do everything doesn't mean I enjoy doing everything, some of it yes some of it no... have you seen those dreaded imp city sewer achievements with the scamps? huge time sink for only a few points yet I'm doing it for the completion.

StormWylf · July 2017

BraidasNM wrote: »

StormWylf wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

they should get deleted, even shor was pretty much a pvdoor server (aside from a few hours at primetime) before the event

I think I am misreading your post, are you suggestive shutting down PvP all together?

there are 3 other campaigns besides xerxes, kastav, and shor...not that im saying shor should be closed, just that even it was mostly dead b4 the event

Cool, I understand. Since ZOS only opened the new 7 day servers for the event, I believe they will be shut down too.

Qbiken · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

One can dream right??

Qbiken · July 2017

code65536 wrote: »

LOL, there's no way these campaigns will survive. They're already dead and empty and used just for emp flipping. Imagine how much more dead they'll be once the event ends.

But I want to become emp some day.......xD Give me a campaign only dedicated to me please

Artis · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

PVP ZONES ARE FOR PVP. Someday you will twig on, they don't have to and aren't going to, give you some stupid end-around way to get Cyrodiil rewards while avoiding the entire point of that zone.

I dont hate pvp, i hate being ganked sent from a delve near ep gates all the way back to roe because when you get ganked in a delve on a delve deep in ep territory and you have to run all the way back from the closest keep, say roe, it makes for some aggravating gameplay esp if you have a slow mount. atleast in pve if you die in say city of ash you don't get sent halfway across valenwood just so you can go and reenter the delve and hope a pvper doesn't think the ap on your head is worth sending you to go back into your territory again and repeat the process again... there is a reason cyrodil is called horse simulator. I don't like it when pve is paired with pvp, I wish the two were separated completely. TLDR, I like pvp when I feel like pvping, I like pveing when I like pveing, I don't like both at the same time...

SanTii.92 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

If you are a completionist you should get good at pvp. How are you gonna get alliance ranks otherwise.

Zerging and getting a throwing aoes into enemy zergs will net you a lot of ap, no skill required. I'm a rank 27 as of this event. rank isn't a indication of skill but of time spent.

Artis wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

That passive aggressive attitude lol

No, what you said is very puzzling. If you are a completionist - aren't you supposed to get everything? Then you are forced to do the pvp objectives as well.

Yah but because I do everything doesn't mean I enjoy doing everything, some of it yes some of it no... have you seen those dreaded imp city sewer achievements with the scamps? huge time sink for only a few points yet I'm doing it for the completion.

So what is your plan on getting Emperor? On killing 100 of each class and race?

Because if it's all or nothing for you, then you have to learn to pvp and pvp. And if it's not, then you aren't really a completionist and why do you care that there will be some achievements that aren't enjoyable or that you won't do.

Not to mention that your "logic" can be applied the other way too. What about completionists who enjoy PvP but are forced to PvE? You get most of the points in PvE, so be happy. PvPers that are completionists have to suffer through boredom and the content that is not enjoyable for them much more than you.

apostate9 · July 2017

raj72616a wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

I highly doubt that real PVPr will wait for u in middle of nowhere just waiting to gank you. Its actually another PVEr whos making quests like you but he saw opportunity to gank you... Haha i bet thats happening... Harrased by questing PVEr.

nah cp800 pvers don't camp at chey quest giver to gank lv20 questers for half and hour. those gankers are pvpers.

You got that backwards.

Linaleah · July 2017

Malmai wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

I highly doubt that real PVPr will wait for u in middle of nowhere just waiting to gank you. Its actually another PVEr whos making quests like you but he saw opportunity to gank you... Haha i bet thats happening... Harrased by questing PVEr.

preeeety sure that gankers are pvpers. or they wouldn't be so... damn... unkillable. it takes wearing pvp gear to have survivability that they do. yes I've been ganked. my only encounters with pve players in cyrrodil consisted of running into each other in a delve, staring for a second, killing a delve boss together and then going our own way. meanwhile just trying to get to home base through the sewers in imp city? gankers. gankers everywhere.

pve people don't gank. we don't actualy want to engage in pvp, let alone skulk around hoping for a victim coming along, or even attack someone as a gank of opportunity

Tasear · July 2017

I don't feel it's truly needed. On a normal day these campaigns. feel empty... almost desolate (imperial city).As long as I am not traveling in between areas marked for battle then I am unlikely to see action... though some delvs are very popular... Even then seems like most people have honor and ingore fisherman, crafters, and even people on quests. Only thing it would add is a easier chance to become empress (if only I had the ambition) or get the skyshards behind x gate. So yeah I won't be surprised if they after today.

P.S is it just me or did having more servers increase lag?

TequilaFire · July 2017

BraidasNM wrote: »

StormWylf wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

they should get deleted, even shor was pretty much a pvdoor server (aside from a few hours at primetime) before the event

I think I am misreading your post, are you suggestive shutting down PvP all together?

there are 3 other campaigns besides xerxes, kastav, and shor...not that im saying shor should be closed, just that even it was mostly dead b4 the event

Totally dependent on which platform server you were on PS4 NA certainly wasn't dead.

andreasranasen · July 2017

Anyone knows if the campaigns are still in-game? Isn't the event over by now?

CromulentForumID · July 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Who is forcing you to do it?

I almost wish games had no achievements. You wouldn't see this kind of thing if that were true. Just because an achievement is there doesn't mean you are entitled to it. There's no gaming code that says every achievement must be obtainable, and certainly not in the way you want it to be.

You can probably separate your completionist mindset from the Emperor achievement. Battlegrounds, too. Dueling maybe, unless a friend takes a dive over and over. Why not others? What's the magic line where the box doesn't need to be checked?

Aliyavana · July 2017

Artis wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

Enough of this. Howabout an empty City of Ash so PvPers can get the gear without being harassed by the robots they force you to grind?

PVP ZONES ARE FOR PVP. Someday you will twig on, they don't have to and aren't going to, give you some stupid end-around way to get Cyrodiil rewards while avoiding the entire point of that zone.

I dont hate pvp, i hate being ganked sent from a delve near ep gates all the way back to roe because when you get ganked in a delve on a delve deep in ep territory and you have to run all the way back from the closest keep, say roe, it makes for some aggravating gameplay esp if you have a slow mount. atleast in pve if you die in say city of ash you don't get sent halfway across valenwood just so you can go and reenter the delve and hope a pvper doesn't think the ap on your head is worth sending you to go back into your territory again and repeat the process again... there is a reason cyrodil is called horse simulator. I don't like it when pve is paired with pvp, I wish the two were separated completely. TLDR, I like pvp when I feel like pvping, I like pveing when I like pveing, I don't like both at the same time...

SanTii.92 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

If you are a completionist you should get good at pvp. How are you gonna get alliance ranks otherwise.

Zerging and getting a throwing aoes into enemy zergs will net you a lot of ap, no skill required. I'm a rank 27 as of this event. rank isn't a indication of skill but of time spent.

Artis wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

I hope they stay so that pvers can have a empty campaign where they wont be harassed by pvpers while doing the pve objectives they force you to do if your a completionist

That passive aggressive attitude lol

No, what you said is very puzzling. If you are a completionist - aren't you supposed to get everything? Then you are forced to do the pvp objectives as well.

Yah but because I do everything doesn't mean I enjoy doing everything, some of it yes some of it no... have you seen those dreaded imp city sewer achievements with the scamps? huge time sink for only a few points yet I'm doing it for the completion.

So what is your plan on getting Emperor? On killing 100 of each class and race?

Because if it's all or nothing for you, then you have to learn to pvp and pvp. And if it's not, then you aren't really a completionist and why do you care that there will be some achievements that aren't enjoyable or that you won't do.

Not to mention that your "logic" can be applied the other way too. What about completionists who enjoy PvP but are forced to PvE? You get most of the points in PvE, so be happy. PvPers that are completionists have to suffer through boredom and the content that is not enjoyable for them much more than you.

I enjoy pvping when I am in cyrodil for pvp, I do not like doing pve in pvp content. now I enjoyed grinding emperor and have that already, and I am only in need of warden kills and a few other race kills because I am killing other players who are also killing other people who are there for pvp. people who camp skyshards at their gates and camp pve quest areas are scum who are only looking for easy ap (aside from keeping the town flags safe). try killing 100 of trove scamps and cunning scamps who are both shared spawns in 3 possible spawn locations and you can miss one of them in 10 minute spawn timers and have a pvper come and mess up your achievement farming or being sent from a delve near warden and back to roe while skyshard hunting...

Smmokkee · July 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Does NA/PC have a sufficient PvP population to support four campaigns, or are we hoping this event will create enough new regular PvPers to keep them filled?

Fix your title by pulling out the question mark and "will"