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Thoughts on Warden class in PvP?

Sarato
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Title says it all. (Magicka and Stamina btw)
Edited by Sarato on July 17, 2017 7:01AM
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    screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer...zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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  • AnviOfVai
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    I'm playing mostly a healer in Cyrodiil on the Warden, I like it. Its quite nice to be able to constantly cast a healing ability of some sort, and the ultimate is just ticking over constantly I can throw it out pretty fast. I'm running necropentance with the Blue betty which awesome, your magika pool is pretty full as long as the betty is out. Damage dealing on it is...difficult but surely possible. I feel like the warden is lacking some good damage abilities though, I'm just using pulse and screaming cliff racer. as stated above haha!

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  • ghwaite
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    I have given it a go but it's just dull, after 15-20 min I login to another class for pop fun time.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I love my warden . I had zero interest in playing a warden but made one just to test it out . Very fun for me .
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  • Koensol
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    screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer...zzzzzzzzzzzzz
    This.

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  • Docmandu
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    AnviOfVai wrote: »
    I feel like the warden is lacking some good damage abilities though, I'm just using pulse and screaming cliff racer. as stated above haha!

    Warden actually has pretty decent burst.. and a high damage spammable.. if I had to pinpoint an issue, I'd say the lack of a decent finisher is an issue sometimes... as anything with healing ward or a shield will just recover if you don't 1-shot.

    Cliff racer is the counter to the dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge'rs.

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  • Cavedog
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    Please ZOS, do not nerf screaming cliff racer.....REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME ALL TOGETHER!
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  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    I have been playing a magic warden for about a month. Enjoying some of its versatility but that is because it fits my play style in Cyrodiil quite well. Truthfully any other magic class actually performs better in most scenarios. The one thing I have noticed now it is pretty hard to finish the 20 kill warden PvP quest compared to any other class so my guess is that most people who have given warden a try have gone back to other classes
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Koensol wrote: »
    screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer...zzzzzzzzzzzzz
    This.

    This is what I was seeing yesterday:

    Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Power of the Light, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, Screaming Cliff Racer, dead target.
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  • Docmandu
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    Weird.. all I see these days is Mage's Fury spam.
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  • TheDarkRuler
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    I like to play my Stam Warden in PVP it is very nice with the Subterranean Assault prepare and then Invasion into the enemy horde and *BOOM*. I like it.
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  • josiahva
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    As a support role, I love the warden. As a damage role, its terrible. All the abilities are delayed, and its not fun to play at all. As a stam warden I would guess its fine since you can use weapon abilities to actually cast something and have it hit when you want it to. No, my go-to for PvP is still magicka-Dk or stamina-DK, even with the problems they have, both are a more fun choice for me than the warden.
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  • sparafucilsarwb17_ESO
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    Stam warden in pvp is fun. Magicka just too weak.
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  • Drachenfier
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    screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer,screaming cliff racer...zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Agree, been playing my templar lately, so this is what it looks like:

    Warden: Screaming Cliff Racer
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  • bikerangelo
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    Congrats to zos for successfully creating a new version of the cliff racer that's even more annoying than the original.

    #SKREESKREE
    Edited by bikerangelo on July 17, 2017 3:40PM
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  • SanTii.92
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    Having a lot of fun and quite some success with it. Is there any particular question you'd like to ask @Sarato
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Please ZOS, do not nerf screaming cliff racer.....REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME ALL TOGETHER!

    Players complaining about cliff racers ... it feels like 2002 again ...
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Copy/paste from another thread on this topic:

    I have lots of playtime with Mag Warden. Undaunted rank 9 and a million solo earned AP.

    DPS in PVE is definitely lacking compared to other classes. Sustain is also just as bad as other classes. Pretty sure Winter's Revenge is bugged and should be doing more damage than it currently does. One big gripe is that if I want to push up the DPS to be on par with other classes, I have to use the Bear ulti, which takes both bars, and doesn't allow me to use Meteor or Elemental Rage on fights that need it (all fights in Vet Maw for example!).

    PVP Mag Warden has super high burst. You can hit 3 abilities + stun in one combat tick. This usually knocks non-tanky characters well below half health or downright kills them. Many players do not expect this.

    PVP Mag Warden has the strongest somewhat-spammable, longest range, AOE heal available. If allies on the front lines are getting hurt, you just use your forest ulti. And 10 seconds later, that ulti is back up, and you can use it again. So many people underestimate this. Being able to throw the strongest heal in the game up to 36 meters away is downright powerful.

    Fletcher Infection is just weak in PVP. I see it do 1-2k per tick. And remember, the ticks happen every 2 seconds. So this DPS is completely negligible. I have also used Swarming Infection, and it definitely spreads well in zerg PVP, but the damage is still tiny.

    PVP Warden has the Frozen Portal spell. This is the longest range chain in the game. AND it acts as a trap, so you can place it and wait. This spell causes so many deaths to players that would otherwise manage to escape. Use it on a guarded door = guaranteed death. Use it to pull someone on the front line = guaranteed death. This also works on very uneven terrain!!! You can literally pull someone up to the top of a hill that they are unable to climb up.

    Cliff Racer needs to remain undodgeable. It's one of the only counters to dodge roll spam. Those NBs that stealth, try their burst combo, and then dodge roll away have to be able to die somehow. And since Warden has no reliable CCs, this is the solution.
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  • reiverx
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    There's nothing more unwanted than a kill 20 Wardens bounty.
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  • Megabear
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    I enjoy both my Wardens as support, but I don't expect to kill many.
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  • Arthg
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    reiverx wrote: »
    There's nothing more unwanted than a kill 20 Wardens bounty.

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  • SanTii.92
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    Fletcher Infection is just weak in PVP. I see it do 1-2k per tick. And remember, the ticks happen every 2 seconds. So this DPS is completely negligible. I have also used Swarming Infection, and it definitely spreads well in zerg PVP, but the damage is still tiny.
    Why you feel Infection is week? It's one of the, if not the highest hitting single target dot in the game. It's pretty good.
    Docmandu wrote: »
    AnviOfVai wrote: »
    I feel like the warden is lacking some good damage abilities though, I'm just using pulse and screaming cliff racer. as stated above haha!

    Warden actually has pretty decent burst.. and a high damage spammable.. if I had to pinpoint an issue, I'd say the lack of a decent finisher is an issue sometimes... as anything with healing ward or a shield will just recover if you don't 1-shot.
    Cliff racer is the counter to the dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge dodge'rs.
    Maybe you could try Soul Assault, coughts plenty of ppl unprepared for cough*kodi*cough xd

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    Edited by SanTii.92 on July 17, 2017 8:17PM
    When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
    the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.

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  • Drachenfier
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    outside of ballista bolt burn, most dots are extremely weak in pvp
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  • Teridaxus
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    Basicly the twin of the templar.
    Insane heals and spamming one skill (battlegrounds premade with templars and warden only is a terrifying sight to behold).
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  • Anhedonie
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    I will quote one youtube persona:

    (polish accent) It's f**king OP.
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    @SanTii.92 I don't use Fletcher not because the move itself is weak, but because there is no way to capitalize on it.

    It ticks every 2 seconds, so it's not reliable source of finishing your opponent off after your burst.
    Your burst is on a 3 sec interval, meaning at least half of the time Fletcher will be HoT'd away
    Does not proc Skoria and Nieren'eth and the other are not synergetic

    So while the ability itself is good, it would fit much better on NB or DK imo
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  • SanTii.92
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    @SanTii.92 I don't use Fletcher not because the move itself is weak, but because there is no way to capitalize on it.

    It ticks every 2 seconds, so it's not reliable source of finishing your opponent off after your burst.
    Your burst is on a 3 sec interval, meaning at least half of the time Fletcher will be HoT'd away
    Does not proc Skoria and Nieren'eth and the other are not synergetic

    So while the ability itself is good, it would fit much better on NB or DK imo
    It's strong preassure on duels, I understand tho the unappealing on group play. Still I run it for Bgs or small scale where target prioritization is important. Hits hard, 2k ticks is nothing to laugh about.
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  • hamburgerler76
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    Yea the dps side seems a lil dull but I love doing healing on my warden in BG and pvp and dungeons. Good alt to my templar
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  • SanTii.92
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    Yea the dps side seems a lil dull but I love doing healing on my warden in BG and pvp and dungeons. Good alt to my templar
    One o fthe things that appeal the most to me is how i can provide really meaningful support with few skills. For the most part I can keep a group of 4 very much alive with only healing ward, Nature's Embrace and Enchanting Forest, while also dipping a lot of burst with few skills too. Deep Fissure into cliff racer and force pulse is quite brutal.
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    Super OP
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