PTS Update 15 - Bug Reports for Combat Balance

ZOS_GinaBruno · July 2017

Please report any issues you run into involving combat and gameplay balance in this thread. In general, we prefer you to use /bug in-game but if you’d rather submit a report here, please give us as much information as possible, including screenshots and/or video if applicable. Thank you!

Koolio · July 2017

Here a bug I've been asking about for 6 months with no answer. Might be fixed but I won't be able to text for 2 months until console release.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/327582/healing-ward-is-broken#latest

Telel · July 2017

The timer for the werewolf ultimate is still messing up.

It's currently not resetting the timer if you end the transformation early. This means you will often get seconds at best during your next transformation.

On live it's also been bugging out in high lag situations. This bug causes you to not transform or gain access to the werewolf skill bar even though the ultimate is spent. What's worse is that since there's no visual cues, and no timer, the player just sees their normal figure, and can't even use their normal class skills or weapon swap. The only fix is to hit the ultimate button again as even death and a respawn does not fix it.

chongguang · July 2017

So whats the difference of Surge's change compare to live version ?
Is it buff or nerf?
I think Surge in the live sever already follow the higher critical chance to do Critical damage .

prototypefb · July 2017

many 'instant' skill animations still last 1-2 sec, those skills give advantage to animation clippers and/or macro users

Moloch1514 · July 2017

My copied toon is max level and is missing 3 levels in Racial Skill line. I am now 47/50, missing the last passive.

PC-NA
Altmer Sorc
max CP

Avran_Sylt · July 2017

Sent a report in game, but also gonna post here so peeps can see if it's been reported already:

Copied Toon Doesn't Proc any Weapon Enchantment while Heavy Attacking

Edit: also tested on PTS toon, seems that Heavy attacks don't proc enchantments.

ManDraKE · July 2017

I reported this a while back, it really needs a fix

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347729/lighting-heavy-attacks-are-breaking-cloak#latest

Avran_Sylt · July 2017

Bug: Infused Still Doesn't Reduce the ICD of the Glyph of Prismatic Onslaught

monkidb16_ESO · July 2017

The following Warde skills still reveal your position to enemy players while stealthed:

Falcon's Swiftness

Betty Netch

Crystallized Shield

Adenoma · July 2017

Dawnbreaker is still able to be dodged.

Sandman929 · July 2017

I don't see anything in the PTS notes about Warden's swarm not being considered a DoT (or proccing Skoria). Is this intended?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/351327/bug-wardens-swarm-skill-and-its-morph-does-not-proc-valkyn-scoria

Mojmir · July 2017

Run speed is still bugged,character stuck in heavy attack animations without visuals,bar swapping still buggy.

RaddlemanNumber7 · July 2017

My character took The Lady from Stonefalls Mundus Stone. I saw that the boon was listed in the character window and that her resistances had increase by about 4000. Nice.

On zoning to Deshaan by Navigator she lost the boon. This was shown in the character screen, her resistances had dropped and the boon was not listed in active affects.

I repeated this by returning to Stonefalls, and taking The Lady boon again. I checked the character screen to make sure the boon was listed and that her resistances had increased again. I then travelled to Mournhold by way shrine. My character lost the boon again.

Avran_Sylt · July 2017

2H Forceful Double Dips into: Master at Arms, Heavy Weapons (Greatsword), Mighty, Precise Strikes, and Criticals in general.

Axe

Skeever (9100 Physical Resistance, 18.07% DR at 505 per 1%)

No CP:
Basic Attack - Base: 1,673
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Base: 686

Mighty - 100 - 15% increase to Physical Damage:
Basic Attack - Base: 1,924
-=|(1,673 * 1.15) = 1923.95 |=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - 907
-=|(1924 * 0.5) * (1-.1807) = 788.166 (Actual Higher than Calculated)
-=|(788.166 * 1.15) = 906.39|=- (Forceful Double Dips Mighty)

Physical Weapons Expert - 100 - 35% Increase to Light and Heavy Attacks:
Basic Attack - Base: 2258
-=|(1,673 * 1.35) = 2,258.55|=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Base: 926
-=|(2,258 * 0.5) * (1-.1807) = 925.215|=- (Looks Good)

Master at Arms - 100 = 25% Increase to Direct Damage:
Basic Attack - Base: 2091
-=|(1,673 * 1.25) = 2,091 |=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Base: 1071
-=| (2,091 * 0.5) * (1-0.1807) = 856.68 (Actual Higher than Calculated)
-=| (856.68 * 1.25) = 1,070.85 |=- (Forceful Double Dips Master at Arms)

Precise Strikes - 100 - 25% increase in Stamina ability Crit values:
Basic Attack - Base: 1,673
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Base: 686
-=| (1,673 * 0.5) * (1-0.1807) = 685.34 |=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Critical: 1,200
-=| (686 * 1.75) = 1,199.35 |=- (Looks Good)

Basic Attack - Critical: 2,927
-=| (1,573 * 1.75) = 2,927.75 |=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Critical - Cleave - Base 1,200
-=| (2,927 * 0.5) * (1-0.1807) = 1,199.35 |=- (Evaluated from Post Crit Value)
Basic Attack - Critical - Cleave - Critical: 2,099
-= (1,200 * 1.75) = 2,100 |=- (Crit bonus has now multiplied with itself)

Forceful damage should be based off of non-crit value. It should then have a chance to crit (IMO) Otherwise it'll stack multiplicatively, which could be an issue down the road.

Greatsword

Heavy Weapons - 2/2 - 5% increase in Damage:
Basic Attack -Base: 1,756
-=| (1,673 * 1.05) = 1,756.65 |=- (Looks Good)
Basic Attack - Base - Cleave - Base: 755
-=| (1,756 * 0.5) * (1-0.1807) = 719.6 |=- (Actual Higher than Calculated
-=| (719.6 * 1.05) = 755.59 |=- (Forceful Double Dips Heavy Weapons)

2H Forceful Tooltip is raised by: Master at Arms, Heavy Weapons (Greatsword), and Mighty (but has no impact on damage)

No CP:

Mighty - 100 - 15% increase to Physical Damage:

Master at Arms - 100 = 25% Increase to Direct Damage:

Heavy Weapons - 2/2 - 5% increase in Damage:

All Three:

PC NA - PTS

James-Wayne · July 2017

House Templar

Radiant Aura (Morph of Restoring Aura) is still an 28m AOE Taunt even thou Wrobel has always said there will be no AOE Taunts in ESO... so can we get this fixed, it shouldn't be hard surely.

Even some feedback on it saying you are aware would be great too.

BohnT · July 2017

Problem with shadow image: You can teleport to another person's shadow if you both have it on the ground and you use the teleport.
This occurs for friendly as well as enemy shadow images and happens randomly.
Please fix this and the bug that you are not teleported to your shade.

Jaxaxo · July 2017

BohnT wrote: »

Problem with shadow image: You can teleport to another person's shadow if you both have it on the ground and you use the teleport.
This occurs for friendly as well as enemy shadow images and happens randomly.
Please fix this and the bug that you are not teleported to your shade.

This bug was for so long. You teleport to last placed shade in range from your alliance. I didn't have any issue to teleport to enemy shadow.

BohnT · July 2017

Jaxaxo wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Problem with shadow image: You can teleport to another person's shadow if you both have it on the ground and you use the teleport.
This occurs for friendly as well as enemy shadow images and happens randomly.
Please fix this and the bug that you are not teleported to your shade.

This bug was for so long. You teleport to last placed shade in range from your alliance. I didn't have any issue to teleport to enemy shadow.

I had the issue on live server yesterday where i teleported into a zerg i tried to escape. my shade was on a rock and there were no friendly people around.

GeorgeBlack · July 2017

prototypefb wrote: »

many 'instant' skill animations still last 1-2 sec, those skills give advantage to animation clippers and/or macro users

AC does not offer reactive combat.
Everyone runs the same clipping rotations against any target be it tank, nuker, warrior, rogue.
If a player cancels an attack in order to avoid/block incoming hits, hers/his attack should not register damage. That is true reactive.

BohnT · July 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

many 'instant' skill animations still last 1-2 sec, those skills give advantage to animation clippers and/or macro users

AC does not offer reactive combat.
Everyone runs the same clipping rotations against any target be it tank, nuker, warrior, rogue.
If a player cancels an attack in order to avoid/block incoming hits, hers/his attack should not register damage. That is true reactive.

If it doesn't takes skill, why are there people out there who win every fight against other players who don't use AC? There is skill involved but that's something that you don't understand until you do it frequently and in conjunction with burst combos.
This form of combat is more reactive than the one you proposed because as long as you attack someone he can't do anything so it is only reactive for their one being on defence while you can just spam skills being offensively and win every fight. With the current system the attacker has to make decisions if he can still fully focus on attack or if he is low enough on health to fear a burst from the enemy.
This isn't the game for you, it will never change the way you want it to and it would be better if you go on and have fun in another game and not trying to ruin the fun for the ones who enjoy this game

GeorgeBlack · July 2017

BohnT wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

many 'instant' skill animations still last 1-2 sec, those skills give advantage to animation clippers and/or macro users

AC does not offer reactive combat.
Everyone runs the same clipping rotations against any target be it tank, nuker, warrior, rogue.
If a player cancels an attack in order to avoid/block incoming hits, hers/his attack should not register damage. That is true reactive.

If it doesn't takes skill, why are there people out there who win every fight against other players who don't use AC? There is skill involved but that's something that you don't understand until you do it frequently and in conjunction with burst combos.
This form of combat is more reactive than the one you proposed because as long as you attack someone he can't do anything so it is only reactive for their one being on defence while you can just spam skills being offensively and win every fight. With the current system the attacker has to make decisions if he can still fully focus on attack or if he is low enough on health to fear a burst from the enemy.
This isn't the game for you, it will never change the way you want it to and it would be better if you go on and have fun in another game and not trying to ruin the fun for the ones who enjoy this game

What a constructive reply at a PTS forum where ZOS and not you is looking for a feedback.

As long as I am in this game I'll say what I want.
I'd suggest you stop telling people to take their money out of ESO and find "a game that suits them" unless you can replace the loss of income to ZOS.

[snip]

[Edited for minor baiting and flaming]

Riluanesht_Keakian · July 2017

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dpencil1 · July 2017

Reposting on the official bug thread:
I have confirmed that Minor Slayer is indeed NOT WORKING at all on the PTS. I cast Liquid Lightning on the target dummy and on a dungeon boss with both the 3 piece Master Architect and with switching the 3rd piece for an identical quality non set piece. The damage was exactly the same in both cases

Br1ckst0n · July 2017

There is an issue with enchants not proccing on heavy attacks. Affected are dual wield, one hand and shield and two handed.

SodanTok · July 2017

After the fix where creeping ravage poison effects (small dot over long duration) werent working last patch. They now work twice as good. Meaning each second the creeping ravage procs twice (14hits in 6sec duration).

Made a report ingame, but decided to put it here too.

NiclasFridholm · July 2017

Templar/Executes:

Last sweep of Puncturing sweep still broken, all % based executes still broken and a DPS loss above 5% (Depending on your DPS) Please fix theese, you are basicly making Magplars (DPS) useless in trials.

Alpheu5 · July 2017

Thrive in Chaos isn't applying its damage bonus correctly. Regardless of how many enemies it hits, it only applies approximately a 3.5% boost to tooltip damage, not the 5% as stated. Using the skill on 6 target skeletons yields the same numbers as using it on a single one.

Base value:

Damage boost from 1 enemy hit:

Damage boost from 6 enemies hit:

The same thing happens with Haunting Curse, when all gear is removed, and regardless of whether or not Major Sorcery is active. I did notice that the swirling effect lasts a lot longer when hitting the large group of skeletons though.

Tasear · July 2017

Live

PTS

- 2% more healing from the powered staff, more max magicka, more champion points...yet it's less.

Kaysha · August 2017

I don´t know if it´s a bug or intended or even already active on live servers, but eclipse seemingly reflects viper´s dots and axe bleed.
Doesn´t sound right to me.