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Campaigns for Morrowind

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  • Sandman929
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    Well, the message is clear here, they are pushing PvP to NonCP. I really don't mind, but if that is the case, CAN WE GET RID OF THE "F" RESOURCE POSIONS

    So much this.
  • Enodoc
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    Stridig wrote: »
    I'm having trouble understanding the ruleset for Kyne. Any input?
    @Stridig It's just for players under level 50 (ie, the same as Blackwater Blade), but @ZOS_BrianWheeler didn't state its duration.
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  • alexkdd99
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    Lol, so the players have showed they would rather play with their cp that they earned, so you start moving to force people to play without them?

    If you can't support the champion point system then you need to scrap it and come up with a better system. Stop punishing your players.

    Go to azura star on xbox na and then go to the pop filled campaign, the players have voted on how they wish to play pvp. And it is with champion points. You think taking an empty no cp campaign and splitting it into will make them full? Do you play pvp in eso?

    Was about to pre order morrowind, was turning my xbox on to do so. And then I read this crap. When the players show how they want to play the game you said "play how you want", but yet you want to force the overwhelming majority into playing how they don't want to.

    And yes it is the overwhelming majority that want to play with cp, just look at campaign populations. This will only cause those who wish to play without CP to be more spread out.

    Seems you just want to jumble everything up in an attempt to drive people to battlegrounds.

    I will be holding off on my order for now. Will wait to see what other *** sandwich you decide to serve up.
    Edited by alexkdd99 on May 16, 2017 4:50PM
  • Jailbirdy
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    Shor - on Xbox NA will be 3 times worse than Haddy is now and I had a que of over 100 last night. (had that que 3 times in 90 minutes because the game crashed and put me back in Deshaan when I got back in)

    Wonder why they kinda "hid" this post here, I know it is the topic are for it, but no warning in ESO Live or anywhere.

    I am going to start a "Bring back the Deer" petition if we don't have CP, lmao
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  • Gederic
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    Trueflame already gets queues over a hundred. Guess with only 1 cp campaign we can expect that queue to be even longer for Vivec.......
    Edited by Gederic on May 16, 2017 4:48PM
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  • Hoked_on_ponix
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    For the love of god can we adjust NPC and siege damage in non CP. For the past few years siege has been tweaked and updated (buffed) to work within the CP system. Now that PvP is going in the direction of no CP these things deserved to be looked at.
  • DisgracefulMind
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    Gederic wrote: »
    Trueflame already gets queues over a hundred. Guess with only 1 cp campaign we can expect that queue to be even longer for Vivec.......

    Yeah, PC/NA sees queues on the weekend over 100 often enough. Going to be interesting since most players prefer the 30 day CP camp >.>
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  • jroc699_burr
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    Where is the 7 day cp for ps4 @ZOS_BrianWheeler
  • Preyfar
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    MaximusDargus wrote: »
    Is this a result of the "no cp week" for collecting data about lag? CP caused lags in PVP so they got almost removed from PVP?
    I assume a mix op of no-CP week and the fact CP will be front-loaded now so it's going to make builds even harder to bust in PVP because people have a wider variety of CP to spread out.
  • NeillMcAttack
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    Can we not just leave the 30 day non-cp called Azura's Star please!!??
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  • apostate9
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    Looking like Sotha-Sil for me...
  • Glarin
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    Why do I have the feeling that they are slowly removing CP from PvP entirely?

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Please tell me this isn't the direction we're headed
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  • apostate9
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    Glarin wrote: »
    Why do I have the feeling that they are slowly removing CP from PvP entirely?

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Please tell me this isn't the direction we're headed

    I think he just told you, this is the direction we're headed.
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    1. I think 1-49 might be a typo for Kyne unless you will no longer need to be level 10 for PvP.

    2. Like sustain changes and altering staple class abilities, the no CP in PvP push seems settled whatever the forums may say.

    3. Leave siege as it is and let people who get hit burn, rot, and be crushed. There is a set that reduces siege damage anyway. Step into that breach, zergling, my meatbag catapult is ready.
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  • Takllin
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    What happens when less people play the 7day no-cp campaign than play Haderus currently on PC NA? Or when Vivec queue times reach higher levels than Trueflame's? You're giving people less options than they currently have which are already extremely limited. If you want to turn off CP in PvP you have to just do it. As you've proposed nothing is going to change except larger queue times for Vivec/TF and less people on the 7day no-cp because there's not exactly long lines of people waiting to get into Azuras like TF.
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    DisgracefulMind wrote: »
    Gederic wrote: »
    Trueflame already gets queues over a hundred. Guess with only 1 cp campaign we can expect that queue to be even longer for Vivec.......

    Yeah, PC/NA sees queues on the weekend over 100 often enough. Going to be interesting since most players prefer the 30 day CP camp >.>

    Not sure if people really prefer the 30 Day CP campaign, or if that is where everyone flocks to because the competitive guilds are all there. I personally enjoy the no CP campaigns. It seems to be the writing is on the wall, ZOS wants to move to a no CP platform. This is a chance for the competitive guilds to flip over to the 30 day NO-CP campaign.


    BY Server...NA/PC
    Trueflame Soon to be called Vivec
    DC
    1. Vehemence (VE)___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    2. Blood of Daggerfall (BoD)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    3. Arcadian knights (AK)______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    4. ShadowGrabber (SG)_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    5. The Kelly Gang (TKG)______Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    6. KHOLE____________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)
    7. Elder Skillz (Skillz)_________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)

    EP
    1. Haxus_________________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    2. Invictus_______________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(10-16)
    3. Pact Militia____________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    4. Phoenix Rising_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    5. Spectres of the Phoenix(SotP)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-12)
    6. War Battalion__________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    7. Wormhole (EP)_________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    8. Lambent Darkness_____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST))(6-12)
    9. Zombie Death Machine________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    10. Moons and Stars ______________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    11. AMATERAS____________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    12. Vokundein_____________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(6-12)
    13. Looking for Group (LFG)________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)
    14. Flame________________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(4-12)
    15. EP Hit Squad __________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)


    AD
    1. Ruin Gaming_____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(24-48)
    2. Fantasia _________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-24)
    3. Dominion Knights_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(16-24)
    4. Dominant Dominion_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-24)
    5. Venatus__________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)(6-8)
    6. Queens RAM _____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)(8-16)
    7. GONDAWARA_____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    8. Children of Hircine (CoH) __Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(8-16)

    Haderus Soon to be called Almalexia
    DC
    1. Macro and Cheese_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    2. Legion of Mordor (LoM)____Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    3. DC United__________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-12)
    4. Chaos Riders_______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-8)(M,W)

    EP
    1. Raven and the Rose (R&R)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-24)
    2. Dreadlords_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-36)
    3. Sempiternal Way___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-10)
    4. Dark Elf Regime____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-10)


    AD
    1. Total Domination (TD)________Prime Time (24/7 Coverage)(24 - 72)
    2. Dominion Knights____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(12-24)
    3. Republic of Bananas_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-10)
    4. Imperium of the Eagle(IoTE)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-12)
    5. Elderblade___________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    6. Limited Intellect______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (3)

    Azura's star Soon to be called Sotha Sil
    DC
    1. Requiem_________________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(5-12)
    2. Tertiary Meat_____________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-14)
    3. Lord FENGRUSH & DC Champions_Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(1-8)
    4. House of Shadows________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)?
    5. Full Metal Carebears______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)

    EP
    1. Darkest Requiem__________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(15-24)
    2. Animosity_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-7)
    3. Death's Head Legion_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-16)(S,SU)
    4. Longbottom Leafers_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(10-12)
    5. REVERB (BADS)___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(2-4)


    AD
    1. Total Domination (TD)________Prime Time (24/7 Coverage)(24 - 72)
    2. Republic of Bananas_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-10)
    3. Imperium of the Eagle(IoTE)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-12)
    4. Elderblade___________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    5. Limited Intellect______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (3)
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    I generally prefer non-CP Azuras on PC NA but I am concerned with so many different campaigns with no CP spreading the player base out as well as battle grounds pulling players as well.
  • BraidasNM
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  • alexkdd99
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    Crispen_Longbow wrote: »
    DisgracefulMind wrote: »
    Gederic wrote: »
    Trueflame already gets queues over a hundred. Guess with only 1 cp campaign we can expect that queue to be even longer for Vivec.......

    Yeah, PC/NA sees queues on the weekend over 100 often enough. Going to be interesting since most players prefer the 30 day CP camp >.>

    Not sure if people really prefer the 30 Day CP campaign, or if that is where everyone flocks to because the competitive guilds are all there. I personally enjoy the no CP campaigns. It seems to be the writing is on the wall, ZOS wants to move to a no CP platform. This is a chance for the competitive guilds to flip over to the 30 day NO-CP campaign.


    BY Server...NA/PC
    Trueflame Soon to be called Vivec
    DC
    1. Vehemence (VE)___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    2. Blood of Daggerfall (BoD)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    3. Arcadian knights (AK)______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    4. ShadowGrabber (SG)_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    5. The Kelly Gang (TKG)______Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    6. KHOLE____________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)
    7. Elder Skillz (Skillz)_________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)

    EP
    1. Haxus_________________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    2. Invictus_______________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(10-16)
    3. Pact Militia____________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    4. Phoenix Rising_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    5. Spectres of the Phoenix(SotP)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-12)
    6. War Battalion__________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    7. Wormhole (EP)_________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    8. Lambent Darkness_____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST))(6-12)
    9. Zombie Death Machine________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    10. Moons and Stars ______________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    11. AMATERAS____________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    12. Vokundein_____________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(6-12)
    13. Looking for Group (LFG)________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)
    14. Flame________________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(4-12)
    15. EP Hit Squad __________________Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)


    AD
    1. Ruin Gaming_____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(24-48)
    2. Fantasia _________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-24)
    3. Dominion Knights_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(16-24)
    4. Dominant Dominion_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-24)
    5. Venatus__________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)(6-8)
    6. Queens RAM _____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)(8-16)
    7. GONDAWARA_____________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)
    8. Children of Hircine (CoH) __Day (9 AM EST - 5 PM EST)(8-16)

    Haderus Soon to be called Almalexia
    DC
    1. Macro and Cheese_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    2. Legion of Mordor (LoM)____Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)
    3. DC United__________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-12)
    4. Chaos Riders_______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-8)(M,W)

    EP
    1. Raven and the Rose (R&R)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-24)
    2. Dreadlords_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-36)
    3. Sempiternal Way___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-10)
    4. Dark Elf Regime____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-10)


    AD
    1. Total Domination (TD)________Prime Time (24/7 Coverage)(24 - 72)
    2. Dominion Knights____________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(12-24)
    3. Republic of Bananas_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-10)
    4. Imperium of the Eagle(IoTE)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-12)
    5. Elderblade___________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    6. Limited Intellect______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (3)

    Azura's star Soon to be called Sotha Sil
    DC
    1. Requiem_________________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(5-12)
    2. Tertiary Meat_____________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(6-14)
    3. Lord FENGRUSH & DC Champions_Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(1-8)
    4. House of Shadows________________Night (1 AM EST - 9 AM EST)?
    5. Full Metal Carebears______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)

    EP
    1. Darkest Requiem__________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(15-24)
    2. Animosity_________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-7)
    3. Death's Head Legion_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(8-16)(S,SU)
    4. Longbottom Leafers_______Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(10-12)
    5. REVERB (BADS)___________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(2-4)


    AD
    1. Total Domination (TD)________Prime Time (24/7 Coverage)(24 - 72)
    2. Republic of Bananas_________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-10)
    3. Imperium of the Eagle(IoTE)__Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (6-12)
    4. Elderblade___________________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST)(4-10)
    5. Limited Intellect______________Prime Time (5 PM EST - 1 AM EST) (3)

    If they wanted to play without CP they already would be. We have had no cp campaigns for quite some time and players have voted, they want to play with their cp.

    All this will do is cause higher queue times for cp campaigns and barren non cp campaigns.

    How do they expect a low population no cp campaign to be split into and not be barren?

    Either scrap the system if you can't make it work and come up with something else, or let people play how they choose. ZOS went with the "play how you want" motto (which they probably regret now), so they should go with how the players vote.

    They added a cp node that is only useful in pvp, while at the same time trying to remove CP from PvP. How ridiculous is that?

    Let people choose how they wish to play, if they want to use the cp they earned then they should be able to use them. These *** sandwiches being served up constantly are getting hard to stomach.

    Btw zos, nice work hiding this topic but I suspect it won't stay hidden.
  • chi_ras
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    Did I miss something essential? Why the salt? Except Haderus (nobody cares about anyway, in EU at least), this is just a renaming?
    Edited by chi_ras on May 16, 2017 5:23PM
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    YAY maybe Xbox will have people in the no CP campaign now so i can be in there.
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  • Ghostbane
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    tl;dr; Haderus went non-CP.
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  • Crispen_Longbow
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    If they wanted to play without CP they already would be. We have had no cp campaigns for quite some time and players have voted, they want to play with their cp.

    All this will do is cause higher queue times for cp campaigns and barren non cp campaigns.

    That's not necessarily true. To have a competitive campaign there has to be balance. When the dominate guilds move from one server to the next it really throws those campaigns out of balance. We tested Haderus out a few times. Each time the same thing happened we can completely flip the map as any resistance quickly disappears and there is no competition there. The same goes for AZ. So guilds are stuck in TF if they want to fight the competition.

    This is actually a great opportunity for the guilds to re-balance each server out. Everyone has to re-home, they are all going to start up at the same time, no one has to wait for a campaign cycle to end etc. Guilds are what move the map and control the map. If the competitive guilds re-home in No-CP there will be plenty of room for those that still need to fight with CP.

    Competitive guilds shouldn't need CP as a crutch.
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  • ckbud
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler Why did you do all these PVP-related CP changes, and make things like "Befoul" more powerful, when there will only be one way (one campaign, no battlegrounds) for players to get any use out of these kinds of PVP CP specs?
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    So the few on haderus pc na will now be on the new TF .. sweet. so when the lag is just as unbearable as usual there is no place to escape to for cp pvp. GG.
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  • apostate9
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    Princess_Asgari wrote: »
    So the few on haderus pc na will now be on the new TF .. sweet. so when the lag is just as unbearable as usual there is no place to escape to for cp pvp. GG.

    Nobody is going to force you all to cram yourselves into that campaign like clowns in a VW bug. But hey, if CP make you that much better...I guess it's your call.


    Edited by apostate9 on May 16, 2017 5:48PM
  • Koolio
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    When the lag is bad I have to go play no-cp?
    This kinda makes my 80 person guild very upset. Why did I just earn all these champion points again?
  • Sharee
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    I have my doubts about the majority of players liking non-CP. If i am right, then vivec will be overcrowded and there won't be enough players to populate all the non-CP campaigns.
  • MagnusRex
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    This is ridiculous. only a single CP campaign? what about primetime laggs and moving to a less populated campaign? If you're going to pull this *** you first have to fix your freaking servers..

    Edited by MagnusRex on May 16, 2017 7:24PM
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  • apostate9
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    Sharee wrote: »
    I have my doubts about the majority of players liking non-CP. If i am right, then vivec will be overcrowded and there won't be enough players to populate all the non-CP campaigns.

    Azura's is quite populated now. I see no reason to believe Sotha SIl will be less so.
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