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Moondancer Sharpened destro staffs drop chance, RNG a myth?

  • F7sus4
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    This may be an example of how they "balance" the rng statistics... A few weeks ago I was in a pug nMoL farm run, and 1 guy got TWO sharp moondancer inferno staves - 1 from a trash mob and 1 from Rakkhat's chest. Saw it with my own eyes via grouploot.

    He kept them both, even with offers from group members of 1.5 mil...
    Which alone makes pugging for loot a bad idea. They either keep the loot or ask for ridiculous gold. Your main group usually shares stuff which virtually multiplies your chances by x11 (excluding yours) each run.

    Feanor wrote: »
    Is 129 SD worth 8 months? I doubt though.
    Of course it's not. We weren't raiding vMOL for loot. LOL. :D

    Edited by F7sus4 on May 4, 2017 10:41AM
  • Feanor
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    @F7sus4

    You raided it because you loved it? Then why did you complain. ;):smirk:
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  • F7sus4
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    Feanor wrote: »
    @F7sus4

    You raided it because you loved it? Then why did you complain. ;):smirk:
    I didn't. I simply provided the answer to OP how much time did it take to get the drops.
  • Tostiee
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    At some point before MoL was broken on console I got quite a lot of moondancer inferno staves (in stupid traits ofcourse) from farming nMoL but after a lot of farming I gave up because nothing.. Few weeks after that I joined in on a vMoL run and got a sharpened moondancer inferno from a random simple chest lol.
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  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    I've ran vMoL hundreds of times with my raid group. I've also ran nMoL a lot as well.

    Last month, Rakkhat dropped for me a sharpened Moondancer Lighting staff. A few weeks later, my guild leader gave me a sharpened Moondancer Inferno staff he also received from Rakkhat.

    This process took over 8 months of grinding. It is f***ing ridiculous. No other way to put it. For me the vMA grind was not as bad ("only" took a few hundred runs for sharpened Inferno/Lightning vMA staves)

    Do not attempt this grind.

    If you really want to have that 4-piece spell damage bonus I would recommend waiting for Morrowind at this point to farm, since there will be a set that has the exact same 2/3/4 piece bonuses as Moondancer and will probably look really cool.

    Hope that helped.....

    Yep thats some astronomically low odds.

    I too have beaten the VMA grind and although i have IA staffs i just moondancer cus they glow :o
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  • Juhasow
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    Yeah and then You're going with randoms on nMoL runs and 3 runs in a row there is 1 sharp flame for someone and even better someone is getting both flame and lightning at 1 run :smile:
  • glavius
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    peak99 wrote: »
    All weapon drops are not created equal

    Approx
    15% each resto/bow/shield (45%);
    7% each 1h (28%)
    5% each 2H (30%)

    Rough est., don't have the exact numbers in front of me.


    It sucks. I know.

    Yep this is the issue. They fixed it for maelstrom arena as far as I know, but not for everywhere else.
    So for every time a set weapon drops theres a 1/3 chance it's the correct set, 5% chance of the inferno staff, and then its about 1 in 8 chance that it's a sharpened. 0.2083% chance of it dropping, for each weapon drop. So about 1 in 500 weapons that drop will be this exact one.
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    glavius wrote: »
    peak99 wrote: »
    All weapon drops are not created equal

    Approx
    15% each resto/bow/shield (45%);
    7% each 1h (28%)
    5% each 2H (30%)

    Rough est., don't have the exact numbers in front of me.


    It sucks. I know.

    Yep this is the issue. They fixed it for maelstrom arena as far as I know, but not for everywhere else.
    So for every time a set weapon drops theres a 1/3 chance it's the correct set, 5% chance of the inferno staff, and then its about 1 in 8 chance that it's a sharpened. 0.2083% chance of it dropping, for each weapon drop. So about 1 in 500 weapons that drop will be this exact one.

    :'(
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • IronCrystal
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    I have gotten 1 sharp lightning to drop for me. And I've seen 1 sharp inferno drop for someone else, and 1 sharp sword drop.

    I've run nMol and vMol plenty
    Make PC NA raiding great again!

    Down with drama!


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  • Apherius
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Well @Wrobel says RNG is EXCITING. Go figure.

    only when you finally got the loot you want . Personnaly i think the farm is the annoying thing to do .
  • Thal
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    I got 4 consecutive MD sharpened ice staves in under 24 hour period. 3 hit the NPC - 1 was kept in case that becomes viable
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