WalksonGraves wrote: »Never going to happen, elderscrolls lore is decades old.
So to start, ALOT of people love wolves. I know people(including I) would love this... a wolf race! ZOS must add this! This would rival the khajiit race(cat/dog). Sure ZOS may say "there are werewolves", but hell it's limited and they look messed up. We need handsome anthropomorphic wolves! Not a hard thing to do! Customers like us must make the push!
We the people must have this integrated into our TESO gaming experience/adventure. How awesome would it be to be a wolf. Come fellow customers. Support this proposition.
I am not a great artist so I have no pictures... But I do have some fragmented lore if this may come to life. (I do admit this thread is poorly constructed but it's merely intended for a "kickstart".
The Lykaios~ coming soon(hopefully)
DragonBound wrote: »So to start, ALOT of people love wolves. I know people(including I) would love this... a wolf race! ZOS must add this! This would rival the khajiit race(cat/dog). Sure ZOS may say "there are werewolves", but hell it's limited and they look messed up. We need handsome anthropomorphic wolves! Not a hard thing to do! Customers like us must make the push!
We the people must have this integrated into our TESO gaming experience/adventure. How awesome would it be to be a wolf. Come fellow customers. Support this proposition.
I am not a great artist so I have no pictures... But I do have some fragmented lore if this may come to life. (I do admit this thread is poorly constructed but it's merely intended for a "kickstart".
The Lykaios~ coming soon(hopefully)
This game needs another beast race prefer something cooler and more graceful looking.
Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
Yea, but from that angle it would be like saying Giants should be playable.
Indigochild3rdi wrote: »Not more friendly for the tamriel portion of elder scrolls anyway. The closest thing I can think of are the lilmothiit which are an extinct fox like race. But they are all dead. If you are new to the elder scrolls universe you gotta read up on lore before siggesting non cannon ideas lol. It won't happen man.
Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
WhitePawPrints wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
I must admit, that is actually a very good point. Dragons were extinct...
WhitePawPrints wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
I must admit, that is actually a very good point. Dragons were extinct...
starkerealm wrote: »WhitePawPrints wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
I must admit, that is actually a very good point. Dragons were extinct...
Well, going in reverse order: no, and two.
Dragons were never extinct. Incredibly rare? Yes, but they were never actually driven to extinction. There's at least four that appear in Skyrim who were not revived by Alduin. This includes the first one you actually fight and kill outside of Whiterun.
This is ignoring that the The Elder Scrolls' dragons, like Daedra, are incredibly hard to put down in any meaningful way.
With the Snow Elves, yes, they were believed to be entirely extinct. Then again, most people don't even know the corrupted falmer exist, much less what they are, so that should start to build your understanding of how limited the residents of the 4th era are about the world they live in.
In this context there are two surviving Snow Elves. Two. And then you killed one. There's also one surviving Dwarf. (Though he may have been killed when Red Mountain erupted, it's not completely clear.)
Okay, cool, so these races exist. How often to you see Imperial players in game? Or go in a game like Star Trek Online that actually does have expensive races, and tell me how many Liberated Borg players you see.
One or two survivors is cool. Hell, an entire surviving enclave makes sense. But, there is a massive jump from saying, "here are a handful of survivors," and, "hey, you should be able to play as these guys," with thousands of Snow Elves and Dwemer scampering across Tamriel hoovering up Cornflower and Bugloss.
Which is, also, the point I was making earlier about the Lilmothiit. There may be some survivors, but the last time anyone reported seeing one was a decade or so before the events of the game? Except for the 4,276 that served each of the three warring alliances simultaneously, and interacted with characters all across Tamriel? See the problem?
Wow, calm down. Who pissed in your oatmeal? We're having a nice discussion here, and you have to come by to crap all over it.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »LMAO go home SJW. If someone is upset with the idea that a made up race of creatures represent them (a race that is widely considered to be far more peaceful and admirable than humans in the same setting) they can sit in their moms basement and cry into their mountain dew.
Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »WhitePawPrints wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
I must admit, that is actually a very good point. Dragons were extinct...
Forget "extinct", as far as I recall try "were in NO way shape or form what they suddenly were in Skyrim's lore".
TES might have tons of lore built up over decades that it tries to keep to... But it sure as HELL isn't going to let that lore stop it from telling the story it wants to tell, and has thus built in a lot of ways to get around any problems that might come up. Not the least of which simply being that the IU book writers don't know everything.
starkerealm wrote: »WhitePawPrints wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
I must admit, that is actually a very good point. Dragons were extinct...
Well, going in reverse order: no, and two.
Dragons were never extinct. Incredibly rare? Yes, but they were never actually driven to extinction. There's at least four that appear in Skyrim who were not revived by Alduin. This includes the first one you actually fight and kill outside of Whiterun.
This is ignoring that the The Elder Scrolls' dragons, like Daedra, are incredibly hard to put down in any meaningful way.
With the Snow Elves, yes, they were believed to be entirely extinct. Then again, most people don't even know the corrupted falmer exist, much less what they are, so that should start to build your understanding of how limited the residents of the 4th era are about the world they live in.
In this context there are two surviving Snow Elves. Two. And then you killed one. There's also one surviving Dwarf. (Though he may have been killed when Red Mountain erupted, it's not completely clear.)
Okay, cool, so these races exist. How often to you see Imperial players in game? Or go in a game like Star Trek Online that actually does have expensive races, and tell me how many Liberated Borg players you see.
One or two survivors is cool. Hell, an entire surviving enclave makes sense. But, there is a massive jump from saying, "here are a handful of survivors," and, "hey, you should be able to play as these guys," with thousands of Snow Elves and Dwemer scampering across Tamriel hoovering up Cornflower and Bugloss.
Which is, also, the point I was making earlier about the Lilmothiit. There may be some survivors, but the last time anyone reported seeing one was a decade or so before the events of the game? Except for the 4,276 that served each of the three warring alliances simultaneously, and interacted with characters all across Tamriel? See the problem?
Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
KochDerDamonen wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
@Shgon_Dunstan Two, 2, I repeat TWO pre-falmer Snow Elves appear. One is an obscenely powerful vampire and the other is blessed by Auriel. They're also both male. Extinct, they are indeed.
Yes, Bethesda could decide TES VI stars the Dwemer returning to tamriel with a cyberpunk-style city that hovers over the alik'r desert and that the protagonist has to travel with a quirky dwemer sidekick to akivir to fight off the cyber-dragon apocalypse before it reaches their home continent, and also idk danni devito is there as the only dwarf-sized dwemer. It would then be lore-friendly. That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
Some of us like it when our entertainment takes itself a smidge serious. At least a little bit.
Well, you mean by SOME long-term fans, not all. I'm a long-term fan. I played every Elder Scrolls game since the original Morrowind, and even did custom content for Oblivion and Skyrim. But I'd love to see another race added to ESO some day. It doesn't have to be Dwemer or a wolf race, or a fox race, but SOMETHING new would be cool, just like new classes and new abilities and new areas are cool. I just want more stuff and more options.KochDerDamonen wrote: »... That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
SydneyGrey wrote: »Well, you mean by SOME long-term fans, not all. I'm a long-term fan. I played every Elder Scrolls game since the original Morrowind, and even did custom content for Oblivion and Skyrim. But I'd love to see another race added to ESO some day. It doesn't have to be Dwemer or a wolf race, or a fox race, but SOMETHING new would be cool, just like new classes and new abilities and new areas are cool. I just want more stuff and more options.KochDerDamonen wrote: »... That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »KochDerDamonen wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
@Shgon_Dunstan Two, 2, I repeat TWO pre-falmer Snow Elves appear. One is an obscenely powerful vampire and the other is blessed by Auriel. They're also both male. Extinct, they are indeed.
Yes, Bethesda could decide TES VI stars the Dwemer returning to tamriel with a cyberpunk-style city that hovers over the alik'r desert and that the protagonist has to travel with a quirky dwemer sidekick to akivir to fight off the cyber-dragon apocalypse before it reaches their home continent, and also idk danni devito is there as the only dwarf-sized dwemer. It would then be lore-friendly. That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
Some of us like it when our entertainment takes itself a smidge serious. At least a little bit.
... How is it that you ended up a TES fan then?
It might have its moments of seriousness... But it also has its legends of the fabled command console. It's stories of people mathematically proving other people out of existence. It's times where every ending happens at once just so the devs don't have to pick one to be "canon". Pretty sure I recall there even being a legend about some other worldly consciousness that sometimes takes over heros in times of need, only for those heros to then vanish into thin air...
I hear ya. ESO being a prequel makes it a little more difficult to add new things, in terms of being true to lore. I agree with you.KochDerDamonen wrote: »@SydneyGrey That is to say, the made-up Dwemer cyberpunk city (which would totally be a mod I would play if someone was insane enough to spend time making it), or to a lesser degree the sudden snow-elf town. A new race or something isn't out of the question, but I find it highly unlikely to occur in ESO as a prequel.
KochDerDamonen wrote: »SydneyGrey wrote: »Well, you mean by SOME long-term fans, not all. I'm a long-term fan. I played every Elder Scrolls game since the original Morrowind, and even did custom content for Oblivion and Skyrim. But I'd love to see another race added to ESO some day. It doesn't have to be Dwemer or a wolf race, or a fox race, but SOMETHING new would be cool, just like new classes and new abilities and new areas are cool. I just want more stuff and more options.KochDerDamonen wrote: »... That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
@SydneyGrey That is to say, the made-up Dwemer cyberpunk city (which would totally be a mod I would play if someone was insane enough to spend time making it), or to a lesser degree the sudden snow-elf town. A new race or something, isn't out of the question, but I find it highly unlikely to occur in ESO as a prequel.
KochDerDamonen wrote: »Shgon_Dunstan wrote: »... Honestly, those saying "lore says it can't happen" are forgetting what setting they are talking about. Hell, just ask the snow elves. Introduced as an extinct race that no one knew exactly what happened to in Morrowind, then comes Skyrim having very blatant and well known snow elf decedents, and THEN comes its expansion that just has an out and out snow elf show up... And all in all by this point the setting is primed to have a whole freaking colony of them pop out of the woodwork at the drop of a hat.
And that isn't even getting into things like the abundant time travel, reality breaks, or simply a here to unknown group of X or Y wondering in from oblivion... Hell, the bloody dwarves could pop right back into existence at any bloody moment, and that would be 100% lore friendly, as no one truly knows exactly what happened to them.
@Shgon_Dunstan Two, 2, I repeat TWO pre-falmer Snow Elves appear. One is an obscenely powerful vampire and the other is blessed by Auriel. They're also both male. Extinct, they are indeed.
Yes, Bethesda could decide TES VI stars the Dwemer returning to tamriel with a cyberpunk-style city that hovers over the alik'r desert and that the protagonist has to travel with a quirky dwemer sidekick to akivir to fight off the cyber-dragon apocalypse before it reaches their home continent, and also idk danni devito is there as the only dwarf-sized dwemer. It would then be lore-friendly. That does not mean that it would be fitting, or appropriate, or appreciated by long-time fans.
Some of us like it when our entertainment takes itself a smidge serious. At least a little bit.