Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Balticthunder wrote: »

No PVPers weren't forced to do anything, because PVPers dont give a s..t about PVE content, especially some silly events, or now they do?

Do they care about the event itself? No, they probably dont, but dont think for one second that people who pvp dont want all the things that come with the events. They are gamers too ya know. Also, *gasp* there are people who love the entirety of the game, pve and pvp.. but they dont count? Dont matter? Dont deserve to have all the things? Come on man lol now you are just being silly.

You say pvp'ers werent forced to do anything, yet you are complaining about the exact same thing.

#pvplivesmattertoo

Oh cmon it was just silly sarcasm.
I repeat myself once more, I believed that all Holiday events are pve related and thus it raised my concern that this one is tied specifically to pvp out of thin air. Have fun with it, I have nothing against pvp, I said it many times here, but nevertheless people still continue to bash me like I am attacking pvpers and demand something!

Balticthunder wrote: »

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Balticthunder wrote: »

No PVPers weren't forced to do anything, because PVPers dont give a s..t about PVE content, especially some silly events, or now they do?

Do they care about the event itself? No, they probably dont, but dont think for one second that people who pvp dont want all the things that come with the events. They are gamers too ya know. Also, *gasp* there are people who love the entirety of the game, pve and pvp.. but they dont count? Dont matter? Dont deserve to have all the things? Come on man lol now you are just being silly.

You say pvp'ers werent forced to do anything, yet you are complaining about the exact same thing.

#pvplivesmattertoo

Oh cmon it was just silly sarcasm.
I repeat myself once more,...

and i repeat myself once more as well:

I can say the same thing about pve. Why I need to do pve to get my PvP set? Why I had to do a Pve event like jester festival to get my bis PvP drink?
and also:
why do we have to do PvE to get the passives for undaunted that are needed in PvP.
and also:
i have always been forced into the PVE events that i did not want to do. some of them seem unfair.

Balticthunder wrote: »

Oh cmon it was just silly sarcasm.
I repeat myself once more, I believed that all Holiday events are pve related and thus it raised my concern that this one is tied specifically to pvp out of thin air. Have fun with it, I have nothing against pvp, I said it many times here, but nevertheless people still continue to bash me like I am attacking pvpers and demand something!

Okay man despite the fact that it doesn't matter what you believe or what any of us believe- this is ZOS's game, not ours they do with it what they want, you do realize how silly that sounds, right? Why should Holiday events only center on pve? You think there is no lore in Cyrodiil? Its not on another planet, its on the same one all the other zones are lol! There is plenty of lore to use for "Holidays" everywhere in the world of Tamriel.

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Balticthunder wrote: »

Oh cmon it was just silly sarcasm.
I repeat myself once more, I believed that all Holiday events are pve related and thus it raised my concern that this one is tied specifically to pvp out of thin air. Have fun with it, I have nothing against pvp, I said it many times here, but nevertheless people still continue to bash me like I am attacking pvpers and demand something!

Okay man despite the fact that it doesn't matter what you believe or what any of us believe- this is ZOS's game, not ours they do with it what they want, you do realize how silly that sounds, right? Why should Holiday events only center on pve? You think there is no lore in Cyrodiil? Its not on another planet, its on the same one all the other zones are lol! There is plenty of lore to use for "Holidays" everywhere in the world of Tamriel.

I already stated in this thread that I possibly misunderstood their concept of Holiday events, so maybe we can stop here.

Really? Something is pvp specific and you whine? How many pve specific things have they done?

Ill use the same argument that everyone uses when we see these complaints. Why do i have to play pve to be able to complete 99% of the content in this game?

My only question is - How difficult will it be to get into the campaigns during this upcoming festival?

Joy_Division wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Balticthunder wrote: »

Ok last try:

I believe HOLIDAY events are part of pve story line, they are events celebrated in Tamriel by its inhabitants and we as a players take part in them and that's why I'm upset that new HOLIDAY event is out of nowhere pure pvp thing!

If it is out on PTS with full achievement tab and title, it is 99% that it will stay that way. Same as with Jester, new year and witches festivals, when they were introduced on PTS.
Also please spare me this pvp nonsense like Im some weekling, who plays only stupid pve and you are big, tough pvp guys - I said my comp cant run Cyrodiil and its zergs and im long past that age when I need to prove my big e-peen to someone.

And you are entitled to it. However,

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Lastly, we know there’s some apprehension that we’re balancing PvE and PvP gameplay simultaneously without separating the two. We are 100% committed to supporting a single unified game where mechanics and abilities work consistently, with the goal being for players to learn how play efficiently and be able to transfer those skills to other environments. This is one of the reasons we added CC immunities to monsters; when ESO originally launched, you could knock the same mudcrab down over and over. The balance changes we made in this update are aimed at making gameplay more interesting in all areas of the game.

Wait......but what about battle spirit?

Not only that, what about no CP campaigns and Battelgrounds.

ZoS actually has three different rule-systems governing ESO combat, I don;t know why they insist on believe there is only one but it's making a mess of everything.

How long until you think they implement no CP PvE content? That'll be the fourth.

I really hope they balance CP soon. I like CP in concept, but I'm tired of the mess.

Nothing is being forced .


Darnos un descanso de las quejas ...

The first PvP event out of the several PvE events and already hitting resistance. No one ever said that these events are required to be PvE. If the event doesn't suit how you like to play or you see no value in participating, then don't. Just don't try to ruin it for players that may enjoy it.

VelociousLegend wrote: »

The first PvP event out of the several PvE events and already hitting resistance. No one ever said that these events are required to be PvE. If the event doesn't suit how you like to play or you see no value in participating, then don't. Just don't try to ruin it for players that may enjoy it.

Yeah, and it hasn't even filtered into the General Discussion forum yet. I'm not understanding how the OP is thinking they will be forced to participate.

Balticthunder wrote: »

There is this upcoming event on PTS, something like Midyear Mayhem, which is completely pvp content!
Why?
Me and many other people avoid pvp in this game like plague, now people are forced to Cyrodiil to complete this event and its achievements!
So whats next? Event which force you to join hardcore raiding guild to complete it?
Wasn't those game events were meant for fun? Why then you are forcing people now into specific gameplay to take part in your events?!

Edited
I already stated later in this thread that I posiblly misunderstood whole Holiday event concept of being only pve thing. I have nothing against pvpers having fun, so please stop with bashing me like I demand something or Im against pvp!

Maybe next time you should proof read your own post. "Please stop with bashing me like I demand something or Im against pvp!" after saying "Me and many other people avoid pvp in this game like plague" sends plenty of mixed signals. Multiple people in these forums have asked for PvE Cyrodiil zones, PvE Imperial City zones, and dueling to be banned from inside cities, whereas the only update PvP players have received was Imperial City and... flags.

There's a lost respect between PvE and PvP players that you are only strengthening through your frustrated comments, so maybe you should give PvP another honest attempt if keeping up with the holiday events means that much to you. In fact, you might like some aspects of PvP that you never had a chance to experience before.

If anything, try to respect all parts of the game that other players enjoy participating in, then you won't have 3 pages of angry retorts thrown at you.

Hardcore achievement hunters are just....ugh. Not as people, but as players of the game.

Step 1: Feel like you must get all achievements in the game. I have to!
Step 2: Feel like you are entitled to all those achievements. It's there, so I should expect it!
Step 3: Complain that you are forced to do an activity you do not like because that is how you earn an achievement
Step 4: Create arguments that you are indeed forced because it's not just an achievement, look, there's a dye and a title that is just so perfect for my character that it is absolutely required to fulfill their concept - so Forced!
Step 5: Make hyperbolic statements related to achievements to make the devs seem so very unreasonable

Devs confirm that players should farm and farm for hours and hours because "X" only drops from one limited mob type! Devs Confirm ESO's point is to farm mobs!!!

So yeah. Please stop