Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »The thread conversation on the PTS are not going in ZOS's favor either.
I just spent a couple of hours reading through threads and commentary, and it's all a massively more negative reaction than positive, and the disparity is by quite a large margin.
I can almost see Wrobel sitting in his chair, fuming that the players don't think these changes are as perfect as he does. I say that I can almost see it, because I know he really doesn't care. The PTS is a placebo, and 99% of what appears on the PTS goes onto the Live servers completely unchanged. The PTS is there so that ZOS can introduce this stuff, and make people think that their voice has weight that ZOS never intends to give to those voices.
This game is about to take a massive, steaming *** on all of it's players; and this whole update, designed with punishing players for... playing the game and doing well, is going to make even just roaming around a futile struggle to get anything done.
And that's just a quick summary of the discussions over on the PTS forums. This update is not being received well by the people playing even just the base game patch, and they're largely mirroring the negative commentary being made in these General Forums.
If ZOS doesn't majorly change or outright reverse 99% of the changes coming down the pipe for this game, the damage to this game is going to be severe.
Pretty much.
But then again, they wont care until their stock price drops enough.

When one of (if not the) biggest Eso YouTuber is on the edge of quitting a game he has been so passionate about for years. It a pretty obvious they messed up.

TheBonesXXX wrote: »I want to ask Deltia if he is an Undertaker fan.ThePaleItalian wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »I want to ask Deltia if he is an Undertaker fan.
Too soon! :'(
IK, I watched my childhood go wooooooooosh knowing Mark Calaway will never perform again.
vamp_emily wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Fengrush (one of the greatest, if not the greatest ESO streamer. Because he is there streaming to have fun and for the sake of playing ESO itself. Not to sell t-shirts, or some acted personality) said it best. ZOS's intention is to shake everything up. For three years now ESO has grown and morphed into what it is now. ZOS can stand back for a minute and see ESO for what it is on a macro level.
We've had three years of some tweaks here, more tweaks there, a screw tightened there, etc. The players know it and have called for it and ZOS agrees. Radical change is required in order to march towards a better balance in game. The only way to start the ball rolling is to knock the house down to its foundations and start building a new one. You get the more radical changes to begin with and then I am more than certain going forward ZOS will implement more tweaks to continue to fine tune things.
If any of you thought that the 3.0 update was going to be some magical patch where nirvana and perfect balance was achieved in one fell swoop, then you are off your damn rocking chair!
With that being said, everyone should check out the Fengrush Twitch channel and join the king of the stam sorcs, first of his kind, and his friends as they battle ungodly odds against rabid foaming at the mouth elves and the drunkard bloodthirsty Pact army for control of Cyrodiil and the fate of the free peoples of Tamriel.
pfft.. Fengrush is not one of the greatest streamers. That is your fanboy showing. I've seen a few streamers and I would have to say Deltia is one of the better ones.
Did Crown ever stream? If not I wish he would have, he seemed like a very smart player and would make a great streamer.
I think hes saying we should all go outside and get some sunshine rather than stay in with the curtains drawn and get annoyed about a game.
Looks like he is as pissed as most of us.

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »He's streaming about this now.
This dude is a foul mouthed DB....If he want's to make a difference there are more noble causes than dropping the F bomb every five seconds over a video game.
He could be saying anything in any tone with any language and you'd be hating on him.
Yeah because it's all about the hate...
I interact with several different ESO streamers a couple I completely disagree with, but they can present their argument in a non hysterical way.
You called him a "drama queen twitpilot," whatever that is, in the very first comment you posted in this thread. Your bias against him is obvious. In your case, yeah, it's about the hate.
Whatever dude, he's having a full PTSD melt down on line right now over a video game, I think the guy needs help and I'm not saying that to be a jerk. I can tell you're a fan and if you care about the guy you should be concerned with his well being.
austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »He's streaming about this now.
This dude is a foul mouthed DB....If he want's to make a difference there are more noble causes than dropping the F bomb every five seconds over a video game.
He could be saying anything in any tone with any language and you'd be hating on him.
Yeah because it's all about the hate...
I interact with several different ESO streamers a couple I completely disagree with, but they can present their argument in a non hysterical way.
You called him a "drama queen twitpilot," whatever that is, in the very first comment you posted in this thread. Your bias against him is obvious. In your case, yeah, it's about the hate.
Whatever dude, he's having a full PTSD melt down on line right now over a video game, I think the guy needs help and I'm not saying that to be a jerk. I can tell you're a fan and if you care about the guy you should be concerned with his well being.
What you fail to understand is that ESO is the livelihood for people like Deltia. It has consumed much of his life for 3 years. Everyday.
You personally are unlikely to ever show such committment or investment.
Deltia has done tremendous work for ZOS. So much in fact that ZOS devs get a twinkle in their eye when he has something to say.
The way you talk about him, anonymous on the internet, makes you look like more of a d-bag.
Dark_Aether wrote: »Still trying to figure out how this game is pay to win
The two classes with Major Mending are losing it for balance, but a new class is coming with a reliable way to get that and something doesn't smell fishy to you? Gotta make that class appealing somehow, right?
ZOS: "We cannot allow these classes to constantly have this buff, you know, for balance. I'm sure you'll understand. BTW, you can get this new class if you buy our new content. It has access to something called Major Mending, gives some pretty strong heals, you'll love it"
Player: WT@#%@#%$#%
vamp_emily wrote: »If you're into card games, you could also check out Elder Scrolls Legends!
hmmm.. do you have to buy crown crates to get "special" cards?
I've only played ESO, but the things I have seen in the last 2 years makes me upset. A long time ago when they nerfed my vampire stam regen I cried like a baby. I had a very hard time adapting and almost quit. So guess what I did? I went searching for other games and found one that sounded interesting. I paid $450 for CU, and now am just waiting for beta 1. ( which is soon )
Did you see what I did there? I paid another company $450 dollars, and that money could have went to ESO. Changes do matter to me.
I would love to say ESO was the only game I ever played, but I don't think that is gong to happen.
Well that would be true but does Morrowind add any new system of progression? It will be like thieves guild. If you don't have access you won't be doing MOL trial or have thieves guild skill line. It is an expansion, however progression isn't tied to any content in the game.Dark_Aether wrote: »Still trying to figure out how this game is pay to win
The two classes with Major Mending are losing it for balance, but a new class is coming with a reliable way to get that and something doesn't smell fishy to you? Gotta make that class appealing somehow, right?
ZOS: "We cannot allow these classes to constantly have this buff, you know, for balance. I'm sure you'll understand. BTW, you can get this new class if you buy our new content. It has access to something called Major Mending, gives some pretty strong heals, you'll love it"
Player: WT@#%@#%$#%
And you're acting like they're going to make not buying Morrowind, yet continuing to play viable.
Expansion packs do this. It's not normal dlc. Vast, VAST majority of changes and updates are going to require Morrowind after it launches.
Not buying it won't be an option at some point.
At this point the forums are just people complaining about stuff that had not even happened yet.
grim_tactics wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »He's streaming about this now.
This dude is a foul mouthed DB....If he want's to make a difference there are more noble causes than dropping the F bomb every five seconds over a video game.
He could be saying anything in any tone with any language and you'd be hating on him.
Yeah because it's all about the hate...
I interact with several different ESO streamers a couple I completely disagree with, but they can present their argument in a non hysterical way.
You called him a "drama queen twitpilot," whatever that is, in the very first comment you posted in this thread. Your bias against him is obvious. In your case, yeah, it's about the hate.
Whatever dude, he's having a full PTSD melt down on line right now over a video game, I think the guy needs help and I'm not saying that to be a jerk. I can tell you're a fan and if you care about the guy you should be concerned with his well being.
What you fail to understand is that ESO is the livelihood for people like Deltia. It has consumed much of his life for 3 years. Everyday.
You personally are unlikely to ever show such committment or investment.
Deltia has done tremendous work for ZOS. So much in fact that ZOS devs get a twinkle in their eye when he has something to say.
The way you talk about him, anonymous on the internet, makes you look like more of a d-bag.
Do you know him personally?
Deltia is a big boy and I'm sure he could stand up for himself if he gave two craps about what ppl say on a forum.
I mean, you've prob never met this guy and you're standing up for a complete stranger on a message board.