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Deltia is going off on one!
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jcasini222ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Plot twist: in the next pts iteration token system and jewelry crafting is revealed.
For real though ending the rng madness would tamp down a lot of anger. Doing those two above things would make people clap like crazy. In a nerf patch buff trackers never would be enough of a carrot, especially for PC where add-ons can do so much. Adding the plot twist would change the narrative from "nerf, nerf, nerf" to "whoa ESO will be like a new game, bring it on". Just my opinion.
Im not going to look through my post history but it has to be over a year ago to paraphrase "what's ZoS obsession with heavy attacks".3 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭Hey. Don't mind me, I'm just passing by looking at all the "Insightful"s, "Agree"s and "Awesome"s everyone has gotten.
If only I had as many of those three reactions from the first page of this thread in total, I would be very happy.
The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
EP CP810 Nightblade
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AD CP810 Templar
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AD CP810 Dragon Knight
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AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
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DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
Shadow hide you. -Unknown
There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki8 -
Dark_Aether✭✭✭✭Still trying to figure out how this game is pay to win
The two classes with Major Mending are losing it for balance, but a new class is coming with a reliable way to get that and something doesn't smell fishy to you? Gotta make that class appealing somehow, right?
ZOS: "We cannot allow these classes to constantly have this buff, you know, for balance. I'm sure you'll understand. BTW, you can get this new class if you buy our new content. It has access to something called Major Mending, gives some pretty strong heals, you'll love it"
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✭Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »The real reason 'everyone' is so upset is that they're about to lose their easy-mode.
It'll Be Fine, Learn to Play
Adapt and Overcome
Wait wait whoa.....
I had a easy mode?!!!!!!3 -
Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Aether wrote: »Still trying to figure out how this game is pay to win
The two classes with Major Mending are losing it for balance, but a new class is coming with a reliable way to get that and something doesn't smell fishy to you? Gotta make that class appealing somehow, right?
ZOS: "We cannot allow these classes to constantly have this buff, you know, for balance. I'm sure you'll understand. BTW, you can get this new class if you buy our new content. It has access to something called Major Mending, gives some pretty strong heals, you'll love it"
Player: WT@#%@#%$#%
All the new MMOs do this FFXIV did this with their expansion !
You dont have to buy it !
So tell me, where does "winning" come in? What do you win and what is the ending ?Edited by Pops_ND_Irish on April 19, 2017 6:08PM3 -
Dark_Aether✭✭✭✭Dark_Aether wrote: »Still trying to figure out how this game is pay to win
The two classes with Major Mending are losing it for balance, but a new class is coming with a reliable way to get that and something doesn't smell fishy to you? Gotta make that class appealing somehow, right?
ZOS: "We cannot allow these classes to constantly have this buff, you know, for balance. I'm sure you'll understand. BTW, you can get this new class if you buy our new content. It has access to something called Major Mending, gives some pretty strong heals, you'll love it"
Player: WT@#%@#%$#%
All the new MMOs do this FFXIV did this with their expansion !
You dont have to buy it !
So tell me, where does "winning" come in? What do you win and what is the ending ?
Wow...
You still don't see it.
Let me spell it out for you. Major Mending has been nerfed to the ground for DK and removed for Templar but given to Warden.6 -
Phingers✭I've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
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[Edit to remove mention of closed beta]Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:56PM0 -
Rhoric✭✭✭✭✭I have been in MMO gaming since 2000. The majority of the people over those years that complained about changes to any MMO were the top dogs or elitists cause they had the most to lose as they wouldn't be top anymore. Most of the other players just went with the changes cause they were there to have fun. Over the years there has been the crowd to come out of the woodwork that feel they are entitled to things in the MMOs.6 -
Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭Tell me then where is the ending in this game ?
Is there a final boss that when killed the credits roll?
Geez take a break and enjoy the game. Its not life threatening, well at least for most of us it isnt !2 -
Shadow_Viper_vX✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »bunch of kids pitching a fit. they can just use cheat engine to adjust their missing stats like some of those tweeters have been doing. Dont be naive.
there have been things that needed to be adjusted for a log time for fair play and some of these people running broken builds are POd now, good. I small scale but at least understand this game was not advertised as solo pvp but large scale. they need to get over it and move on, prefably to another game so the rest of us can enjoy a fair playing field. Not specifically directed at Deltia but at the others on his feed or re-tweeting him that are known cheats.
QFE! Very well said0 -
MotokoKusanagi34✭✭✭I wonder if anyone here who is ok with this is actually engaged in end game PVE? Definitely not.5 -
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[Snip]I've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
NDA?Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:56PMPS4 Pro NA0 -
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✭Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »The real reason 'everyone' is so upset is that they're about to lose their easy-mode.
It'll Be Fine, Learn to Play
Adapt and Overcome
This.
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✭✭I've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
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NDA?
He didn't give away the Morrowind story.Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:57PM0 -
Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
[Snip]
NDA?
He didn't give away the Morrowind story.
Oh ok. Thought they weren't allowed to even say they were testing it.Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:57PMPS4 Pro NA0 -
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✭MotokoKusanagi34 wrote: »I wonder if anyone here who is ok with this is actually engaged in end game PVE? Definitely not.
My guild is involved with End Game PVE, we're taking a wait and see attitude, I think that's reasonable.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LOL Deltia's video is amazing.
This is the best rant ever.
Look at the Buddhist way of living life....
Game is addictive. $15 clown shoes. This is pure gold.5 -
Shadow_Viper_vX✭✭✭✭✭ViciousVamps1 wrote: »There are ways around the changes its not the end, but like i said if you really want to leave can i have your stuff
QFE! Exactly!!
Oh no, people will have to put more effort into learning the game, they will have to work to improve their skills as a player!!
What ever will they all do!!!
The world is ending!!!
ZOS is turning off easy-mode!! This is the end!! THE END!!
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flguy147ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »Why the rage, enjoy warden, enjoy morrowind, other classes are fun too still, don't make such drama for something that's still not yet live. Is this a way to increase your viewing.
Well if you stay quietly then it will make it to life for sure.
I'm glad you find classes fun after these nerfs. Guess what? - when you got to love one class - maybe in one year from now and then ZOS hit you with another nerf hammer to accommodate Necromancer class then lets see how you stay quietly then.
The people who doesn't care where this game is going stays quietly. Once you care you cannot stay quietly anymore.
Only meta players want the meta builds, that's not how everyone enjoys the game. There're plenty of other things and aspects of the game and fun.
Like he said, if you don't understand why people are so upset is because you have no idea how those changes will affect the game and you don't care about it.
Or you realize alot of people are just upset because they'll be losing their easy-mode.
They'll have to improve their skills as a player and put more effort into learning the game.
The more someone learns about the game, the easier it will be for them to Adapt and Overcome to the difficulties and challenges they encounter.
People need to stop being so lazy and boohooing because ZOS is turning off easy-mode.
Stop being lazy, that is funny one. Playing a video is about the laziest thing on the planet to do.Edited by flguy147ub17_ESO on April 19, 2017 6:26PM4 -
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But we should listen to you? You're telling us if we don't follow your mantra, then we have a problem. Laughable and confusing. We've not to be sheep, but we've to be your sheep because you're so edgy.5 -
Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »
But we should listen to you? You're telling us if we don't follow your mantra, then we have a problem. Laughable and confusing. We've not to be sheep, but we've to be your sheep because you're so edgy.
Really ? hehe0 -
sticx45_ESO✭✭✭I know this is a crazy thought. But what if the skills we've seen released so far for the warden were the first iteration, and warden is loosing access to major mending (maybe making it minor mending) as well in the next week or two on PTR? Just playing devil's advocate here...4
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That's what everyone said each time we bought up Maelstrom weapons from nMSA.Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »The real reason 'everyone' is so upset is that they're about to lose their easy-mode.
It'll Be Fine, Learn to Play
Adapt and Overcome
Wait wait whoa.....
I had a easy mode?!!!!!!
The games so easy, anyone can beat vMSA L2P, LOL vMSA is a joke you just suck!@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
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✭I don't know about anyone else, but, I have considering quiting this game several times, each time I watch some Deltia videos and felt like it would be ok, fun even, once I got used to the changes and figured the new stuff out.
This time that is different, this patch will be bad, bad for everyone, bad if you stay, bad if you go.5 -
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I agree. Having all that new content to play and a shift in meta is bad for me.I don't know about anyone else, but, I have considering quiting this game several times, each time I watch some Deltia videos and felt like it would be ok, fun even, once I got used to the changes and figured the new stuff out.
This time that is different, this patch will be bad, bad for everyone, bad if you stay, bad if you go.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
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[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenI've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
[Snip]
NDA?
He didn't give away the Morrowind story.
Oh ok. Thought they weren't allowed to even say they were testing it.
That is correct, everyone please remember to not disclose that you have been selected to test the Morrowind beta. This is considered an NDA violation.Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:58PM7 -
[Deleted User]✭✭✭The user and all related content has been deleted.Edited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:58PM5
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Nutshotz✭✭✭✭@ShadowViper How's it easy mode? Explain. Most of us know our characters and skills to a T. What they are doing than transferring it to warden is pure ***!
Most people like myself are just tired. What they really need to do is separate CP for pvp and pve. So neither get affected by ones nerf. Nerfing ones area greatly affects the other.5 -
ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »I've honestly gone through some phases on this.
1st was kind of an "eh. it's not so bad and everyone is affected by the nerfs. A bit questionable that magicka steal, helping hands, and siphoning gets nerfed yet dark deal doesn't but I guess I play my sorc if its that big of a deal."
Then I'm starting to go through and see what actually affects me personally and and my big concern is away from resource management as I play in non-CP Azuras anyway and I start looking at actual ability. I really started to feel like my mains of stamblade and magplar; I could make my stamblade still work. Magplars sustain will be down and major mending obviously hurt but what really looks to hurt is I notice major defile on a spammable AOE! I mean; sweeps in PvP is already asking for people to just step through you but having the health return is really a form of mitigation allowing my magplar to do melee for a while. That hurts. So I figure my magplar is now my PVE soloer which it has been and my stamblade can adjust and use the new 2 second dodge roll root immunity as a god send along with the nerf to gap closer spam, and my sorc can be leveled up for my magicka player.
Then I read through in detail the warden skills and began to theory craft. Stamina is a bit lack luster in general as well as warden itself with the lesser morphs but holly hell! Why should I play anything other than magicka warden? Only thing it doesn't have is bling like sorcs streak or a cloak. It has every other buff you could possibly want. Even major heroism.
I'm with Deltia on this. If you want to nerf everything then fine, but don't come up and spit on my cheesburger than try to sell me another one.
[Snip]
NDA?
He didn't give away the Morrowind story.
Oh ok. Thought they weren't allowed to even say they were testing it.
That is correct, everyone please remember to not disclose that you have been selected to test the Morrowind beta. This is considered an NDA violation.
ZOS spotted! People keep claiming ya'll don't visit the forumsEdited by [Deleted User] on April 19, 2017 6:59PM0 -
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✭✭✭sticx45_ESO wrote: »I know this is a crazy thought. But what if the skills we've seen released so far for the warden were the first iteration, and warden is loosing access to major mending (maybe making it minor mending) as well in the next week or two on PTR? Just playing devil's advocate here...
You sound like an ESO negotiator. Go back and tell Wobel .. no! Leave our characters alone and then I will buy the expansion pack and keep subbing.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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