GawdSB wrote: »

LMAOOO

Sorcs really about to come out of this whole thing unscathed. I'm livid, I'll probably be done when Morrowind comes if so.

Is this a joke? LITERALLY untouched...nightblades nerfed;everything else as well... I never believed since the game came out what people would say how Zos loves their magsorc over any and everything. It is early still but from right now this is it? REALLY? Stam has caltrops for pve dps? I bet as well that they kept the crap caltrops morph and changed razor caltrops into the pve version lmfao...if they did not than good job..?? I will enjoy eso for now.

It's really simple, either you nerf sustain for all classes or you don't need sustain. The fact that shields were left untouched and sorcs in general untouched is a freakin insult

Magicka sorc always has been and always will be overlords to the lesser classes.

Bow peasants.

KingJ wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Im fairly worried that all healing was nerfed pretty hard, for all classes and specially for stamina, but Bastion for damage shields wasnt touched.

You can't nerf wrobel favorite class but ruin the game for everyone else.

Ridiculous. Wrobel nerfed Sorcs for 2 years straight while buffing NBs. Now they spent the last 6 months buffing DKs and Temps while still ignoring Sorcs except to cut our Overload ultimate in half! The only actual buffs we've seen since the game LAUNCHED have been to pets.... PETS!

Class balance? W H A T

I am just curious, do the devs even look on the pve group trial leaderboards? Nightblades are practically nonexistent on NA live trial leaderboards right now, and with the heavy nerfs to sustain in general and NBs' class based sustain in particular, you are going to force all but the most determined NBs out of PVE raiding completely.

What class balance?

Love the patch notes, especially the sustain nerf, gj ZOS!

Game becomes way harder to play, its normal that potatoes start crying

Shadzilla wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

Heavy isn't the issue.

Hell BOL being as strong as it is isn't even the issue.

BOL being a 28 meter find-the-lowest-hp-dude-who-made-mistakes-and-heal-him-to-full-whilst-faced-the-completely-opposite-direction is the issue. AKA smart heal. Nerfing BOL to have a conal search pattern instead of a massive giant circular radius would be the proper fix for BOL spamming magplars. This is why BOL has invalidated other magicka heals in PVP - because the skill literally takes ZERO tactical or situational awareness to utilize. Just button mash and heal the right people.

THANK YOU

Now if only they would listen to anything we say about PVE dps... AWWWWW DUDE THEM CALTROPS THOUGH!!! STAMINA SHOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO COMPETE IN PVE NOW!

hey they did give us what we were lacking most. A solid AoE DoT. Sadly the fact that it has to be applied 3 times per 30 seconds has entirely nullified the 75% damage buff. So the single target DPS ain't changing.

Magicka Dragonknight abilities are seriously expensive.

Only burning embers, engulfing flames, whip and flames of oblivion are cheap.

Chains, Armour, dragon blood, talons, reflect, deep breath, stone fist, molten etc are costing 2.9K-3.8K magicka.....

mDKs always had the most expensive costing skills, sure the spammable is cheap but its damage is average, other classes spammable (or signature skills) hit much harder.

Also mDKs still have the most expensive ultimate, and with the nerf to battleroar.

As a "pressure" class, you seriously need to rethink this. If you wish the mDk to run around without burst skills, dots and pressure, then you need to seriously buff the damage of the dots and nerf the spammable IMO.

Since Wrothgar DLC mDKs have been using the same skills and rotation, just kept accepting the massive nerfs since imperial city update. Just recently they received 5% damage increase from a spammable but a 5% nerf of standard of might and finally a fixed self heal that was bugged for over a year and a half.

The mDK is no where near being a "pressure" build. Only reason they are needed in trails is because of the chains and engulfing flames. AOEs are useless since mSorcs and mTemplars can and will out dps the mDK, and the same for single target, the mDK has to work extra hard in melee to reach decent numbers.

in PvP this will not work at all, due to the fact that both engulfing and burning embers damage combined will not be a threat to anyone, it will be outbursted by....everything magicka/stamina. mDks in pvp have been running the same boring rotation, thats talons, petrify, whip whip, and repeat, Burning embers is used only as a melee burst heal. Reflect is still buggy as hell and does not work 50% of the time, and its sad to see everyone gaining acess to 1H and Shield ultimate that reflects ALL projectiles for 6 seconds AND block everything at no cost for 100 ulti. Building 100 ulti in cyordiil is easy, very easy, yet the mDK has the ability thats bugged out and can only reflect 4 projectiles in 4 seconds.

You should rethink the mDK in my opinion completely. if you truely wish to have a pressure class without mobility or execute running around in light amour, then make the dots hit harder, much harder, and reduce the damage of the spammables. That way mDks could be much more viable in pvp and pve. It is a DOT class afterall isnt it? Skills cost was too much, ulti cost is super high, melee class with little defences, burst does not apply to the mDk so make the DOTs counter this, no execute and no mobility. Running around in malstrom arena as a mDK with force pulse...you basically play like a very bad Sorcerer.

Flames of oblivion needs to be redesigned, that floating ball of fire randomly hitting any target is silly, either make it target focused or changed it back to its original aoe.

There is a lot more issues with the Dk class that need to be looked at (not buffed, tweaked) due to how dramatically the game has changed, but there are already countless threads about this, and yet here we are saying the same thing we have been saying for the past 16+ months now.

^Just give it back to us. No one agreed with this change, even the people that hate Magplars think this change was unnecessary. Recently I asked a NB Streamer to play with Fear to simulate Magplars without Blazing Spear. He lasted 10 mins then admitted that he needed fear and magplars needed Blazing Spear to stun again.
Please don't say that Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, and Luminous are reliable stuns

DKs are dead and useless

Wardens are meh

NB and Templars are garbage in comparison to Sorcs.

Get ready for the Sorcpocolaypse.

I'm happy about the overall changes. They're getting rid of the annoying parts of the game. I like the changes to heavy armour. I like the changes to Breath of Life.

However, here's my issues:
1) Why do you completely gut Templars? The whole point of having a Templar in group was 1] Shards 2] Repentance 3] Strong heals 4] Necrotic Orbs(In some cases).

What you can do: Lower the stamina-return on Repentance. But don't take it away completely. Make the 4k stamina into 1,5k per dead corpse or even 1k per dead corpse. Just do not take it away entierly.
You remove our entire reason to stay in a group.

Revert the changes to synergies. Let Orbs & shards be two different, that restores magicka / stamina respectively. The whole point of having a Templar in a group is to help our teammates sustain. Now we can't do any of those things.
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I can live with the Major mending change, I can live with the BoL change, 'cus I love it. But why do you take away everything else that matters to a Templar? x.x

I'm jst trying to find a reason. Please help me, Zenimax!
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Sustain.... Don't go overboard with it. Revert the changes to Siphoning & revert he change to armour. At least a tiny bit. Just a tiny bit of sustain back would be nice. And pleasedon't reward the light attack spammers(as LAs already proc poisons).