Bad players hate dps

BuddyAces · April 2017

As a person who only ever tanks dungeons, yall can post whatever ya want.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Allthough I kind of asked the community a question, and so far I still get hate ish posts about how much I brag. I don't see how my post can be that missunderstood when I tried my best to explain my point very detailed.
And for those who wonder, yes I am proud of what I have and will achieve in this game. Gold, dps, achievement, scores etc. I am proud of what I achieve and everyone should be proud as well. Is that a crime?

It really looks like you enjoy being the self-called "victim".

As a result, whatever rational explanation is useless, but I'll still give it another try :

Being "proud" of your ingame achievements is not a crime. But it will only be well-received and appreciated in circles of like-minded (competitive) players. Most players don't have a competitive mindset and therefore will not care about anyone's achievements. They will only take care of fun. You bragging among them expecting recognition and acknowledgement from them will always fall flat, if not trigger negative reactions. Don't expect water and fire to mix, that's against universal physics.

OrphanHelgen · April 2017

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

I have screenshots and even reported my group members for harassment, so no badge farming here

If I want to farm badges, these type of posts are not the right way to do it.

Edit: Sorry, you never mentioned badges, I just assumed.

phileunderx2 · April 2017

This one does not care how big ones dps is...This one just wants to be happy at the end and get a nice purple key.

Slurg · April 2017

I think it's tacky to post numbers without being asked, but there's no need to be cruel to someone for doing it. If I don't care about your DPS numbers - and I generally don't, I care about completing content in a reasonable amount of time - I'll just ignore it.

I think Stormfist is a lot of fun to use. I'm not surprised if others do too.

Luigi_Vampa · April 2017

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

What part do you think is bs? The high dps? It is entirely possible to reach those numbers with some AoE damage from adds thrown in.

OrphanHelgen · April 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Allthough I kind of asked the community a question, and so far I still get hate ish posts about how much I brag. I don't see how my post can be that missunderstood when I tried my best to explain my point very detailed.
And for those who wonder, yes I am proud of what I have and will achieve in this game. Gold, dps, achievement, scores etc. I am proud of what I achieve and everyone should be proud as well. Is that a crime?

It really looks like you enjoy being the self-called "victim".

As a result, whatever rational explanation is useless, but I'll still give it another try :

Being "proud" of your ingame achievements is not a crime. But it will only be well-received and appreciated in circles of like-minded (competitive) players. Most players don't have a competitive mindset and therefore will not care about anyone's achievements. They will only take care of fun. You bragging among them expecting recognition and acknowledgement from them will always fall flat, if not trigger negative reactions. Don't expect water and fire to mix, that's against universal physics.

I don't expect water and fire to mix. But I was grown up and didn't talk negative about his 5k dps, so he should shut up and not talk negative about my 60k either. That's the point. So far in this community, only the "elitists" have to be nice and respectful, but not the other way around. I queue for pug group, group was bad, I didn't say anything about it and did my job. I never tired to mix water with fire, but that doesn't mean I accept getting hate spams.

WhitePawPrints · April 2017

I once saw someone boasting their numbers of killing a Fellrunner in Craglorn zone chat. First posted 9k burst it, then a 21k burst hit. I thought it was weird but ignored it as I went along my quests.

He was full on bragging and challenging the zone to beat him. Zone chat mostly ignored him, and maybe one person responded with "no one cares". Which he responded with "like to see you do better", and thus solidified his position as a prick.

I went along and came across a Fellrunner, hit it once and did 36k burst damage. Which is probably half of what my PVP build can do, but I wasn't going to waste time to change my build.

Why was this guy bragging? Because he thought he was getting high numbers, but no one cares. Burst damage is meaningless. Posting DPS on a boss with adds is meaningless.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I don't expect water and fire to mix. But I was grown up and didn't talk negative about his 5k dps, so he should shut up and not talk negative about my 60k either. That's the point. So far in this community, only the "elitists" have to be nice and respectful, but not the other way around. I queue for pug group, group was bad, I didn't say anything about it and did my job. I never tired to mix water with fire, but that doesn't mean I accept getting hate spams.

You posted your 60K DPS in the face of people who (so say you) pulled 5K.
That equals to shouting "Hey Noob I'm doing all the work you slacker, you suck !". You actually SAID SOMETHING really agressive by posting those numbers.

If you don't get that, I cannot help you further. You should "git gud" at social intelligence.

Luigi_Vampa · April 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Allthough I kind of asked the community a question, and so far I still get hate ish posts about how much I brag. I don't see how my post can be that missunderstood when I tried my best to explain my point very detailed.
And for those who wonder, yes I am proud of what I have and will achieve in this game. Gold, dps, achievement, scores etc. I am proud of what I achieve and everyone should be proud as well. Is that a crime?

It really looks like you enjoy being the self-called "victim".

As a result, whatever rational explanation is useless, but I'll still give it another try :

Being "proud" of your ingame achievements is not a crime. But it will only be well-received and appreciated in circles of like-minded (competitive) players. Most players don't have a competitive mindset and therefore will not care about anyone's achievements. They will only take care of fun. You bragging among them expecting recognition and acknowledgement from them will always fall flat, if not trigger negative reactions. Don't expect water and fire to mix, that's against universal physics.

I don't expect water and fire to mix. But I was grown up and didn't talk negative about his 5k dps, so he should shut up and not talk negative about my 60k either. That's the point. So far in this community, only the "elitists" have to be nice and respectful, but not the other way around. I queue for pug group, group was bad, I didn't say anything about it and did my job. I never tired to mix water with fire, but that doesn't mean I accept getting hate spams.

I've encountered way more angry and hostile casual players in this game than mean elite players. My anecdotal evidence so take it for what it is, but I think the casual fanbase is the more toxic. Especially in PvP. I don't get much hate from good players in PvP, but that guy spamming bow light attacks sure is mad that I didn't die.

OrphanHelgen · April 2017

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

I once saw someone boasting their numbers of killing a Fellrunner in Craglorn zone chat. First posted 9k burst it, then a 21k burst hit. I thought it was weird but ignored it as I went along my quests.

He was full on bragging and challenging the zone to beat him. Zone chat mostly ignored him, and maybe one person responded with "no one cares". Which he responded with "like to see you do better", and thus solidified his position as a prick.

I went along and came across a Fellrunner, hit it once and did 36k burst damage. Which is probably half of what my PVP build can do, but I wasn't going to waste time to change my build.

Why was this guy bragging? Because he thought he was getting high numbers, but no one cares. Burst damage is meaningless. Posting DPS on a boss with adds is meaningless.

Yeah its most of the time meaningless, allthough there is option to post both single and multitarget, which gives more accurate information.

Some trial bosses can whipe the group if the adds doesn't get killed in time, and therefore AOE dps are needed.

Sigtric · April 2017

EvilCroc wrote: »

No one care about your dps. Really.

zaria · April 2017

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

The real question is..

Is it really necessary to spam the chat with your DPS score on each enemy that you slain with random players? Sometimes you need to keep your DPS scores private... unless if you're in a group that welcomes DPS sharing. Just because you're proud of your score doesn't mean that the rest of the group cares.

As I understand it was one posting as dps was high because of adds.
Posting it over and over would be stupid,
posting high values after intense trash rounds is just fun.

Ep1kMalware · April 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

A tip for you guys. Let the dd's post and let them be proud of the numbers they see, specially if they worked hard for it. This game doesn't give you dps if you spam random buttons, it actually require proper rotation. Just ignore the posts if it bothers you and be happy the dungeon are going smooth.

Let's put it this way :

Imagine a beautiful person walking like a top model. Obviously this person is nice to look at, and has put some effort into his/her appearance and body shape. Along with the beauty given at birth, which is pure random luck.

If you see this person at a fashion show or a beauty competition, it's all OK.
If the same person does it in the street, in a shop or in an office... how does that look like ? Like someone who's claiming loud to be better than others, and therefore making everyone else feel miserable.

Context matters.

To be honest, it DOES annoy me when someone posts DPS statistics in a pugged dungeon. It's not that bad that I actually react or reply to it, I just swallow it, but if you ask me, the truth is that it is annoying. To me.

I'm well aware that it actually "helps" the whole group... but that's a benefit that doesn't compensate the negative feeling of being ... less ? carried ? whatever...

Don't post your DPS in a PUG. That's my position, if you ask me.

Other people's dps scores make you feel miserable? Wtf? I hope I'm wrong because that would be some hardcore seld esteem issue. Smh

Elsonso · April 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Allthough I kind of asked the community a question, and so far I still get hate ish posts about how much I brag. I don't see how my post can be that missunderstood when I tried my best to explain my point very detailed.
And for those who wonder, yes I am proud of what I have and will achieve in this game. Gold, dps, achievement, scores etc. I am proud of what I achieve and everyone should be proud as well. Is that a crime?

It really looks like you enjoy being the self-called "victim".

As a result, whatever rational explanation is useless, but I'll still give it another try :

Being "proud" of your ingame achievements is not a crime. But it will only be well-received and appreciated in circles of like-minded (competitive) players. Most players don't have a competitive mindset and therefore will not care about anyone's achievements. They will only take care of fun. You bragging among them expecting recognition and acknowledgement from them will always fall flat, if not trigger negative reactions. Don't expect water and fire to mix, that's against universal physics.

I would counter that a lot of players have a competitive mindset, but don't really care about another person's competitive mindset.

As for PVE DPS, I am a firm believer that a lot of people spend too much time fiddling with it. In this game, we need one health point more than it takes to survive long enough to kill the immediate threat. There are only a few places where TTK matters, and thus DPS matters.

So, unlike the title to this thread, it is not that bad players hate DPS. It is players who know super high DPS doesn't matter, when super high DPS doesn't matter, that don't care what another person's DPS is.

phileunderx2 · April 2017

I did 129000 on some trash in fungal grotto on my dunmer scorc on a solo normal run. Last boss I got around 11000..lol still cool to see those big numbers even though there is no way I can sustain that in a long fight. Which is why I mostly play healer in group dungeons.

Ep1kMalware · April 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Read my post carefully, and I actually describe that specific situation where that was not the case

I did read your post carefully.
What you don't understand - or pretend to not understand , is that you posted your DPS with the INTENT to inform tank and helaers. The reality is, noone knows your intent.
If you really want to know why people react negatively, you have to understand that what matters is the perception of your acts, not the intention behind them.
This is what I'm trying to explain.
If you persist in saying that PERCEPTION is not relevant because it was not your INTENTION, then I cannot help you further. Sorry.

Doesn't matter. Let's assume op was stoked about the score and wantes to brag, why should he be subject to abuse? Being good is a GOOD thing, has everybody lost their minds? Only in eso is it good to be bad and being good makes you an enemy. Srsly wtf. Other mmo's I played you had casuals that seldom if ever ran raid content, and were there for the social aspect. If they were running with 'leet' playersor saw them pass by Insure as hell can't recall anyone casting scorn. Maybe if thy were a known scammer.

It's ironic everyone praises people like deltia, for beimg good then turn around and do this crap. The atmosphere in this game is crap. @OP nice parse dude, sorry you had to deal with those idiots. I got kicked out of a group before for doing too much dps, or soloing lord warden after the group ate *** 12x in a row. The entire atmosphere this game has is negative, proretarded, and does its best to drag everyone else down with it. All you can really do is find a good guild so you can tune everyone else out, or find a different game.

If morrowind has fail content, it's a flop. If it has better gear then more cry babies will be crying. Won't get better m8.

Balamoor · April 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

I have screenshots and even reported my group members for harassment, so no badge farming here If I want to farm badges, these type of posts are not the right way to do it.

Edit: Sorry, you never mentioned badges, I just assumed.

Whoa whoa wait a minuet......

You reported people for harassment, with your degrading posting history talking about "Bads" "Causals" and what not? I mean this thread could be construed as a shame piece.

Some would say that is toolish of you, I mean it's typical uber gamer mentality, I'm just surprised you admitted to it.

L2Pissue · April 2017

people are getting too sensitive and emotional over video games because other players are not worshiping or /kowtow ing their dps
you need to go out more and learn not to take things personal in pixel land

Iyas · April 2017

ESO where to be a bad player is a good thing

Voxicity · April 2017

Balamoor wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

I have screenshots and even reported my group members for harassment, so no badge farming here If I want to farm badges, these type of posts are not the right way to do it.

Edit: Sorry, you never mentioned badges, I just assumed.

Whoa whoa wait a minuet......

You reported people for harassment, with your posting history talking about "Bads" "Causals" and what not? I mean this thread could be construed as a shame piece.

Some would say that is toolish of you, I mean it's typical uber gamer mentality, I'm just surprised you admitted to it.

Calling someone ''bad'' or ''casual'' is not shaming. There are bad players in this game, and casual players. Saying someone is bad or casual is not shaming, unless we are living in a politically correct safe space world.

Actually I guess we are, so nevermind me, carry on in your safe space

alephthiago · April 2017

One day i was doing a VoM pug on my khajiit nightblade healer, the whole dungeon was going well but at the last boss i started getting hate whispers "what a s*** race for healing", "nightblade healers are a joke, you are lucky we are good players and didnt die", "you should learn to build a decent healer, there are many builds in the internet, you lazy ****".
It made me very upset, 2 players left the group and it was only me and the tank trying to queue to find 2 DPS, when the group was complete again we breezed thru the last boss, the tank then told everyone what happened earlier and everyone was very supportive and agreed we should play to have fun and love our toons the way they are.
We went ahead and started typing (like singing) in group chat "We are the world", it was so beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi0RpNSELas
After that everyone did the /pray emote for 2 minutes and added the others to the friends list.

Well, everything above is a lie, it never happened to me.
Just showing how easy is to make up a story like that.

Balamoor · April 2017

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

I have screenshots and even reported my group members for harassment, so no badge farming here If I want to farm badges, these type of posts are not the right way to do it.

Edit: Sorry, you never mentioned badges, I just assumed.

Whoa whoa wait a minuet......

You reported people for harassment, with your posting history talking about "Bads" "Causals" and what not? I mean this thread could be construed as a shame piece.

Some would say that is toolish of you, I mean it's typical uber gamer mentality, I'm just surprised you admitted to it.

Calling someone ''bad'' or ''casual'' is not shaming. There are bad players in this game, and casual players. Saying someone is bad or casual is not shaming, unless we are living in a politically correct safe space world.

Actually I guess we are, so nevermind me, carry on in your safe space

Actually depends on the context, most mature people understand that, if anything the OP is needing a safe space from the big meanies that didn't like his uberness...... it also occurs to me that this may be a alt account of the OP because you keep rushing in to play white knight.

GrigorijMalahevich · April 2017

I always show DPS, so pugs understand who is carrying the group.

Ep1kMalware · April 2017

Balamoor wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

alephthiago wrote: »

I call this one bs, you made up this story and is trying to farm reactions, like the person who made a post about how he was being kicked from dungeons for using the duchess personality in a male toon.

I have screenshots and even reported my group members for harassment, so no badge farming here If I want to farm badges, these type of posts are not the right way to do it.

Edit: Sorry, you never mentioned badges, I just assumed.

Whoa whoa wait a minuet......

You reported people for harassment, with your posting history talking about "Bads" "Causals" and what not? I mean this thread could be construed as a shame piece.

Some would say that is toolish of you, I mean it's typical uber gamer mentality, I'm just surprised you admitted to it.

Calling someone ''bad'' or ''casual'' is not shaming. There are bad players in this game, and casual players. Saying someone is bad or casual is not shaming, unless we are living in a politically correct safe space world.

Actually I guess we are, so nevermind me, carry on in your safe space

Actually depends on the context, most mature people understand that, if anything the OP is needing a safe space from the means that didn't like his uberness...... it also occurs to me that this may be a alt account of the OP because you keep rushing in to play white Knight.

I think people like you are too sensitive. Constantly sucking and ever so jelous when people feel some sense of accomplishment. I think you shame OP because you want that accomplishment and can't have it? Do you degrade other people's accomplishments so that you can lie to yourself about not wanting them as much? Yeh? No?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I swear I see alot of jealousy and laziness in this game.

Runs · April 2017

If someone questioned your ability to perform sure post it. If your in a guild/friends group, sure post it. If you are in a pug group and you feel they aren't pulling their weight, either say something about it or just continue on as you were. There is no need to post your dps just to rub it in their faces, which is exactly what it sounds like you were doing.

Iyas · April 2017

Valera Progib wrote: »

I always show DPS, so pugs understand who is carrying the group.

Runs wrote: »

If someone questioned your ability to perform sure post it. If your in a guild/friends group, sure post it. If you are in a pug group and you feel they aren't pulling their weight, either say something about it or just continue on as you were. There is no need to post your dps just to rub it in their faces, which is exactly what it sounds like you were doing.

Why though? I dont understand that. So they should get a particapation medal for getting the last place or what?

SirAndy · April 2017

The epeen is strong in this one ...

QUEZ420 · April 2017

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I earned my way to elite status through months upon months of hard work and dedication on my character.

The least I can do is show off my achievements and work my epeen a bit with my dps numbers.

This so much! Nothing else to it, bads r gonna hate regardless.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2017

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Doesn't matter. Let's assume op was stoked about the score and wantes to brag, why should he be subject to abuse? Being good is a GOOD thing, has everybody lost their minds?

No, being good isn't a good or a bad thing.
It's important to some, and to the rest, it's irrelevant. Throwing performance numbers into the face of people who think it's irrelevant is equal to forcing your own values onto them. It causes negative reactions, which are both logical and legit.