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SameMeteor26
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Which morph should I choose for my Stam nb?
Edited by SameMeteor26 on January 29, 2017 4:42AM Shadow cloak 59 votes
Shadowy disguise
94%
56 votes
Dark cloak
5%
3 votes
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Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shadowy disguiseMinor resistance buffs for such a short period of time are pointless (especially seeming you are immediately stunning your opponent). Guaranteed critical is huge, whether it be an opener or before dropping an ult.
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chaserstorm16909✭✭✭✭✭Shadowy disguiseMinor resistance buffs for such a short period of time are pointless (especially seeming you are immediately stunning your opponent). Guaranteed critical is huge, whether it be an opener or before dropping an ult.
Agreed. Dark Cloak used to be a good morph, but it got nerfed really hard a couple patches ago.1 -
Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shadowy disguisei didn't mind dark cloak as you tend to spam it in pvp when escaping, but it depends on how you use the skill.
that said the predicable crit is super useful as you can guarantee proc crit rally, crit vigor, crit attacks, etc.
so it wins out.ESO player since beta.
game got too disappointing.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shadowy disguisechaserstorm16909 wrote: »Minor resistance buffs for such a short period of time are pointless (especially seeming you are immediately stunning your opponent). Guaranteed critical is huge, whether it be an opener or before dropping an ult.
Agreed. Dark Cloak used to be a good morph, but it got nerfed really hard a couple patches ago.
It used to be a good morph on paper. It was always finicky and frequently broken (as in, non-functional, not overpowered). I mean, I used to use Dark Cloak, but it's never really been worth it.0 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When it used to purge stuff instead of being a crappy DoT suppressor, which doesn't even work because of the 50 different ways people break you out of cloak, Dark Cloak was amazing.
Nowadays, it's pretty much Shadowy Disguise or nothing because god knows that the cheap resistance buff from Dark Cloak won't save you from that 20k+ Viper+Veli+Widowmaker comboArgonian forever1 -
kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dark cloakI still run Dark Cloak over Disguise on my Stam NB. He's not your typical medium roll monkey though. He's got ~45% crit, and a lot of mitigation (29k resists on Bow bar) while retaining his damage dealer status. I consider the 8% damage reduction to be more valuable than a guaranteed crit because I use Cloak for defensive play only, the benefit of Disguise is often negated because I'm going to crit half the time anyway, and the guaranteed crit is often consumed by something other than your intended Surprise Attack or full Heavy attack.Edited by kadar on March 16, 2017 9:09PM0 -
SameMeteor26✭✭✭
Yeah but if possible to ( Idk if bc I'm still learning this game ) crit vigor, that would be super helpful for the defensive side.The_Outsider wrote: »I still run Dark Cloak over Disguise on my Stam NB. He's not your typical medium roll monkey though. He's got ~45% crit, and a lot of mitigation (29k resists on Bow bar) while retaining his damage dealer status. I consider the 8% damage reduction to be more valuable than a guaranteed crit because I use Cloak for defensive play only, the benefit of Disguise is often negated because I'm going to crit half the time anyway, and the guaranteed crit is often consumed by something other than your intended Surprise Attack or full Heavy attack.
So if it is possible, I think that's why most would use it.Edited by SameMeteor26 on March 16, 2017 9:11PM0 -
kadar✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm not sure if it's possible, though by the phrasing of the tooltip I'd guess not: "Your next attack...will crit..." I trust someone will correct me if I'm wrong, lol. That said, even if it is able to crit a Vigor heal, you simply have no reliable way to make sure that happens. It's the next damaging (or possibly heal) tick to happen after cast, so even if you do absolutely nothing but Vigor after casting, the guaranteed crit could still be consumed by a DoT, or even a Rally tick. And even IF you manage to get the crit on the attack that you want it, you still would have already crit half the time anyway (cause weapon crit does effect attacks and vigor/rally heal).SameMeteor26 wrote: »
Yeah but if possible to ( Idk if bc I'm still learning this game ) crit vigor, that would be super helpful for the defensive side.The_Outsider wrote: »I still run Dark Cloak over Disguise on my Stam NB. He's not your typical medium roll monkey though. He's got ~45% crit, and a lot of mitigation (29k resists on Bow bar) while retaining his damage dealer status. I consider the 8% damage reduction to be more valuable than a guaranteed crit because I use Cloak for defensive play only, the benefit of Disguise is often negated because I'm going to crit half the time anyway, and the guaranteed crit is often consumed by something other than your intended Surprise Attack or full Heavy attack.
So if it is possible, I think that's why most would use it.
Pls keep in mind this is just my opinion on why I personally don't like Disguise for my particular build/play style.
Edited by kadar on March 16, 2017 9:39PM0 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dark cloakGuaranteed crit does not work on shields, or when your poison procs. Same is if you use any proc set such as sheer venom, viper etc. Dark cloak is way better atm in PvP since it can be the difference between life and death if you need to escape/evade/kite ppl.1
