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loot spies
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cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why are you all TROLLING OP?
They are simply asking for a way to hide their loot. Everyone feels entitled to everything. And others being able to spy on your loot can get annoying. Yes I just say no if it's something I do the want/need. But if not I will tell them no. It will be accepted but still annoying that I was put in that situation.
And all OP is asking is if there is something that hides your loot from others. All of you are just trying to show how amazing you are with long "clever" ways of telling op to say no. Chill out jeeeez.3 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah they feel entitled for the person that looted it to give it up for some odd reason, which they don't need to give it up since its there's no matter what.
Just be thankful atleast the mod doesn't broadcast it like in WoW, ha.0 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭One time someone in a pug saw what dropped for me and asked me for my loot. But I needed it, so I told him no and that I planned on using it. That's the end of this story, thank you for your time.3 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »One time someone in a pug saw what dropped for me and asked me for my loot. But I needed it, so I told him no and that I planned on using it. That's the end of this story, thank you for your time.
If he was that demanding i bet he left the group as well?1 -
SolidusPrime✭✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »Why even show other players what I have looted to begin with? It's really none of their business. If you just HAVE to know what I looted, ask like a big boy. It really isn't that hard.
Too many hypocritical edgelords jumping on this guy for a simple question. How you want the game to be isn't any more valid than what he wants.
Do you really want to link every item in chat if you don't have to?
This makes it easier...as long as you're not just being selfish.
I guess the question really comes down to this:
What's more important the 1 purple temper that you might get, the 51 gold from vendoring that item, or helping someone get the gear they need?
If you answered either of the first two, then you're just selfish.
Im all for sharing drops and stuff. I do it pretty much every time.
But for people to act like they are entitled to know what I got, or that the time it takes to link items in chat is a good excuse to display my info, is just silly to me.
If someone ever asks me for an item because they saw it drop to me, I'll refuse to give it to them just because. It feels pushy and intrusive.2 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I actually like it. Ive been playing for a long time and have much of the gear i need. I typically pay no attention to what i get until im out of the dungeon/trial/group and standing in a town somewhere. So i dont mind when someone says hey that sword of kung-fu death you got, can I haz it? Because id never even know i got it until much later.1 -
cjthibs✭✭✭✭✭
✭SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Why even show other players what I have looted to begin with? It's really none of their business. If you just HAVE to know what I looted, ask like a big boy. It really isn't that hard.
Too many hypocritical edgelords jumping on this guy for a simple question. How you want the game to be isn't any more valid than what he wants.
Do you really want to link every item in chat if you don't have to?
This makes it easier...as long as you're not just being selfish.
I guess the question really comes down to this:
What's more important the 1 purple temper that you might get, the 51 gold from vendoring that item, or helping someone get the gear they need?
If you answered either of the first two, then you're just selfish.
Im all for sharing drops and stuff. I do it pretty much every time.
But for people to act like they are entitled to know what I got, or that the time it takes to link items in chat is a good excuse to display my info, is just silly to me.
If someone ever asks me for an item because they saw it drop to me, I'll refuse to give it to them just because. It feels pushy and intrusive.
How do you share every time if you're so busy telling them no?0 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »One time someone in a pug saw what dropped for me and asked me for my loot. But I needed it, so I told him no and that I planned on using it. That's the end of this story, thank you for your time.
If he was that demanding i bet he left the group as well?
No, the dungeon was over. We continued on to finish the other pledges though. Later on a helm dropped in a good trait that he could make use of. This time when he asked, I happily gave it to him. So ends the tale of adults playing a video game and communicating like normal, well adjusted adults in a virtual world.2 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah this seems ridiculous to me. What's the problem with people being able to see what loot you got? They might attempt to engage you in conversation to see if you'd be willing to trade the item you got to them - oh the humanity!
Or you could engage in conversation with your group at the beginning of the dungeon. Say hello and tell them you are looking for a specific piece instead of just snooping in their bags until they get something you want and only then engage them.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault3 -
cjthibs✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah this seems ridiculous to me. What's the problem with people being able to see what loot you got? They might attempt to engage you in conversation to see if you'd be willing to trade the item you got to them - oh the humanity!
Or you could engage in conversation with your group at the beginning of the dungeon. Say hello and tell them you are looking for a specific piece instead of just snooping in their bags until they get something you want and only then engage them.
Ha. Snooping their bags?
You guys are aware that this is fairly normal for MMO's? To share loot in dungeons.
At least it isn't like the old days where only one person got to loot or you had to roll the dice.1 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭cpuScientist wrote: »Why are you all TROLLING OP?
They are simply asking for a way to hide their loot. Everyone feels entitled to everything. And others being able to spy on your loot can get annoying. Yes I just say no if it's something I do the want/need. But if not I will tell them no. It will be accepted but still annoying that I was put in that situation.
And all OP is asking is if there is something that hides your loot from others. All of you are just trying to show how amazing you are with long "clever" ways of telling op to say no. Chill out jeeeez.
@cpuScientist Are you trolling right now, or are you unaware of what trolling is.
OP is saying they dislike this feature of the API and the mods that make use of it, others are saying they think it's fine and can be resolved by simply keeping one's loot if they want to. Encouraging someone to stand up and say "no" when they don't wish to do something is not trolling.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].2 -
Taysa✭✭✭✭✭If uttering the word "no" is far too frightening, I suggest giving up MMOs and retreating to your single player safe space.5/24/18: The day ZoS suspended my forum account for trolling a troll.1 -
Nebthet78✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭for some inexplicable and weird reason a lot of players are still using addons to see the group loot, and for those who play frequently on group events this is really annoying since we have to constantly deal with intrusive beggars. the only solution i found until now is an addon to mute the players, but i was looking for a better way, a way to prevent the group to see what am i looting. is there any way to do that?
I feel your pain. I had the same issue with a group I ran trials with. It peeved me off to know end getting people whispering me and begging me for a piece of loot that dropped before I even had the time to take a look at what I had gotten and decide whether or not I wanted it.
It got to the point I now run with the general rule that if someone begs me for my loot before I post it for trade myself, everything but what I want to keep gets sold to the vendor! Gold rings and all!!! And if people whine about it in teamspeak, I tell them that sorry, but such and such a player decided to bug me for the loot before I posted it, so every one looses out.
I f'n hate that addon!!Far too many characters to list any more.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Yeah they feel entitled for the person that looted it to give it up for some odd reason, which they don't need to give it up since its there's no matter what.
Just be thankful atleast the mod doesn't broadcast it like in WoW, ha.
This is a rather negative viewpoint. Most that I've seen certainly don't feel entitled. They merely ask.
I expect a few really want it bad and offer gold. It would be very rare to find someone who feels entitled though I'd put that into the same boat as the oppinion I quoted.0 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭for some inexplicable and weird reason a lot of players are still using addons to see the group loot, and for those who play frequently on group events this is really annoying since we have to constantly deal with intrusive beggars. the only solution i found until now is an addon to mute the players, but i was looking for a better way, a way to prevent the group to see what am i looting. is there any way to do that?
I feel your pain. I had the same issue with a group I ran trials with. It peeved me off to know end getting people whispering me and begging me for a piece of loot that dropped before I even had the time to take a look at what I had gotten and decide whether or not I wanted it.
It got to the point I now run with the general rule that if someone begs me for my loot before I post it for trade myself, everything but what I want to keep gets sold to the vendor! Gold rings and all!!! And if people whine about it in teamspeak, I tell them that sorry, but such and such a player decided to bug me for the loot before I posted it, so every one looses out.
I f'n hate that addon!!
This is a good plan. Give one person the power to troll the whole group. Well done.
On a related note maybe you should start ignoring the people that bother you. Since you seem to be running with a bunch of people who beg you for your loot and then whine in teamspeak about it.
I guess if you want to keep grouping with a bunch of dingdongs that is cool, but ignoring them and looking for a better group seems like it would work out better for you.0 -
Nebthet78✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »for some inexplicable and weird reason a lot of players are still using addons to see the group loot, and for those who play frequently on group events this is really annoying since we have to constantly deal with intrusive beggars. the only solution i found until now is an addon to mute the players, but i was looking for a better way, a way to prevent the group to see what am i looting. is there any way to do that?
I feel your pain. I had the same issue with a group I ran trials with. It peeved me off to know end getting people whispering me and begging me for a piece of loot that dropped before I even had the time to take a look at what I had gotten and decide whether or not I wanted it.
It got to the point I now run with the general rule that if someone begs me for my loot before I post it for trade myself, everything but what I want to keep gets sold to the vendor! Gold rings and all!!! And if people whine about it in teamspeak, I tell them that sorry, but such and such a player decided to bug me for the loot before I posted it, so every one looses out.
I f'n hate that addon!!
This is a good plan. Give one person the power to troll the whole group. Well done.
On a related note maybe you should start ignoring the people that bother you. Since you seem to be running with a bunch of people who beg you for your loot and then whine in teamspeak about it.
I guess if you want to keep grouping with a bunch of dingdongs that is cool, but ignoring them and looking for a better group seems like it would work out better for you.
Well it changed their behaviour real quick once they realized what I was doing, so as far as I'm concerned mission accomplished. So now I'm no longer bothered until I've posted what I'm willing to give away.Far too many characters to list any more.0 -
SolidusPrime✭✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Why even show other players what I have looted to begin with? It's really none of their business. If you just HAVE to know what I looted, ask like a big boy. It really isn't that hard.
Too many hypocritical edgelords jumping on this guy for a simple question. How you want the game to be isn't any more valid than what he wants.
Do you really want to link every item in chat if you don't have to?
This makes it easier...as long as you're not just being selfish.
I guess the question really comes down to this:
What's more important the 1 purple temper that you might get, the 51 gold from vendoring that item, or helping someone get the gear they need?
If you answered either of the first two, then you're just selfish.
Im all for sharing drops and stuff. I do it pretty much every time.
But for people to act like they are entitled to know what I got, or that the time it takes to link items in chat is a good excuse to display my info, is just silly to me.
If someone ever asks me for an item because they saw it drop to me, I'll refuse to give it to them just because. It feels pushy and intrusive.
How do you share every time if you're so busy telling them no?
As the group gets ready to start, people quickly announce the sets and pieces they are looking for. If I find one of those I link it. It's like this in almost every run I do with the group finder and seems pretty standard.1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Why even show other players what I have looted to begin with? It's really none of their business. If you just HAVE to know what I looted, ask like a big boy. It really isn't that hard.
Too many hypocritical edgelords jumping on this guy for a simple question. How you want the game to be isn't any more valid than what he wants.
Do you really want to link every item in chat if you don't have to?
This makes it easier...as long as you're not just being selfish.
I guess the question really comes down to this:
What's more important the 1 purple temper that you might get, the 51 gold from vendoring that item, or helping someone get the gear they need?
If you answered either of the first two, then you're just selfish.
Im all for sharing drops and stuff. I do it pretty much every time.
But for people to act like they are entitled to know what I got, or that the time it takes to link items in chat is a good excuse to display my info, is just silly to me.
If someone ever asks me for an item because they saw it drop to me, I'll refuse to give it to them just because. It feels pushy and intrusive.
How do you share every time if you're so busy telling them no?
As the group gets ready to start, people quickly announce the sets and pieces they are looking for. If I find one of those I link it. It's like this in almost every run I do with the group finder and seems pretty standard.
Only ones I don't give to are ones under Cp 160, cause they need to be atleast max level to be able to ask for something imo.0 -
Jawasa✭✭✭@SolidusPrime That's not how it works from what I have seen. I allways state what I need at start then I'll wait until the end and several times I see loot I need drop but no1 announce it. So at the end I just play dumb and ask if any1 got the items that I need (that I know dropped because of addon.). That makes them actually look at there loot and then if they don't need it i'll get it. But because of people like you I play dumb so no1 get offended win win for every1.
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TARAFRAKA✭✭✭✭✭@SolidusPrime That's not how it works from what I have seen. I allways state what I need at start then I'll wait until the end and several times I see loot I need drop but no1 announce it. So at the end I just play dumb and ask if any1 got the items that I need (that I know dropped because of addon.). That makes them actually look at there loot and then if they don't need it i'll get it. But because of people like you I play dumb so no1 get offended win win for every1.
Awesome. That whole if someone asks for the loot I have, I vendor it on principle because they snooped is BS.
If you dont need it, and vendor or decon it because someone asked for it when they saw it dropped for you..dont be pissy when they show up undergeared in a vet dungeon later on.
People like OP are why we have to have group loot to begin with. No one thinks they are entitled to your drops, but if you get it and dont need it, WHO CARES?1 -
willlienellson✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Yeah they feel entitled for the person that looted it to give it up for some odd reason, which they don't need to give it up since its there's no matter what.
Just be thankful atleast the mod doesn't broadcast it like in WoW, ha.
This is a rather negative viewpoint. Most that I've seen certainly don't feel entitled. They merely ask.
I expect a few really want it bad and offer gold. It would be very rare to find someone who feels entitled though I'd put that into the same boat as the oppinion I quoted.
I disagree. I think it's a positive viewpoint.
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Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭Do we need safe spaces in groups?
I have that add on, not sure which one it is. I've asked to buy or trade for stuff before and if I'm told they want to keep it, I say "ty for replying, grats on the drop".
I know, I know...somebody is asking for something while helping you complete something, we're rude ***.
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »for some inexplicable and weird reason a lot of players are still using addons to see the group loot, and for those who play frequently on group events this is really annoying since we have to constantly deal with intrusive beggars. the only solution i found until now is an addon to mute the players, but i was looking for a better way, a way to prevent the group to see what am i looting. is there any way to do that?
I feel your pain. I had the same issue with a group I ran trials with. It peeved me off to know end getting people whispering me and begging me for a piece of loot that dropped before I even had the time to take a look at what I had gotten and decide whether or not I wanted it.
It got to the point I now run with the general rule that if someone begs me for my loot before I post it for trade myself, everything but what I want to keep gets sold to the vendor! Gold rings and all!!! And if people whine about it in teamspeak, I tell them that sorry, but such and such a player decided to bug me for the loot before I posted it, so every one looses out.
I f'n hate that addon!!
This is a good plan. Give one person the power to troll the whole group. Well done.
On a related note maybe you should start ignoring the people that bother you. Since you seem to be running with a bunch of people who beg you for your loot and then whine in teamspeak about it.
I guess if you want to keep grouping with a bunch of dingdongs that is cool, but ignoring them and looking for a better group seems like it would work out better for you.
Well it changed their behaviour real quick once they realized what I was doing, so as far as I'm concerned mission accomplished. So now I'm no longer bothered until I've posted what I'm willing to give away.
Glad you got it worked out.0 -
SleepyTroll✭✭✭✭✭
✭I must hail from a different planet, because where I come from people say "No" when they feel disinclined to entertain a request.
do you come from a planet where people check what you have in your bag?
anyway... i don't have any problem saying "No", i've been saying that to everyone who knows my loot ...i was just trying to find out if anyone knew an addon or some way to prevent the loot broadcast.
if players can use an addon to see the other players loot, why wouldn't another player have the right to search for a way to prevent that? what's so wrong about it?
Do you come from a planet where you slay giant monsters and cut off its head and have it magically turn into a helmet all the while also taking a giant sword out of its kangaroo pouch in front of people and no one's sees?1 -
cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »cpuScientist wrote: »Why are you all TROLLING OP?
They are simply asking for a way to hide their loot. Everyone feels entitled to everything. And others being able to spy on your loot can get annoying. Yes I just say no if it's something I do the want/need. But if not I will tell them no. It will be accepted but still annoying that I was put in that situation.
And all OP is asking is if there is something that hides your loot from others. All of you are just trying to show how amazing you are with long "clever" ways of telling op to say no. Chill out jeeeez.
@cpuScientist Are you trolling right now, or are you unaware of what trolling is.
OP is saying they dislike this feature of the API and the mods that make use of it, others are saying they think it's fine and can be resolved by simply keeping one's loot if they want to. Encouraging someone to stand up and say "no" when they don't wish to do something is not trolling.
So trolling it is got yah. Well have found with it.0 -
NeKryXe✭✭✭✭✭
✭SleepyTroll wrote: »I must hail from a different planet, because where I come from people say "No" when they feel disinclined to entertain a request.
do you come from a planet where people check what you have in your bag?
anyway... i don't have any problem saying "No", i've been saying that to everyone who knows my loot ...i was just trying to find out if anyone knew an addon or some way to prevent the loot broadcast.
if players can use an addon to see the other players loot, why wouldn't another player have the right to search for a way to prevent that? what's so wrong about it?
Do you come from a planet where you slay giant monsters and cut off its head and have it magically turn into a helmet all the while also taking a giant sword out of its kangaroo pouch in front of people and no one's sees?
hummm... maybe you should read why i said that and what i replied to before start trolling. it's just a tip.1 -
Gallifreyy✭✭✭im just gonna say if your pugged in a group and you are being carried through trials or dungeons just for another loot option and then act arrogant and say your just gonna vendor items because someone needs that piece you are the reason why some say the eso community is cancerousCP1000+Gallifreyy - DragonKnight - Imperial - EPDeath by Tray - Nightblade - Dunmer - EPMoustacheasaurs - Templar - Dunmer - EPZerief - Sorcerer - High Elf - EPAfro Leap - DragonKnight - Redguard - DC+ 4 other Lvl 50sDK IS BACK0