Global Auction House yes or no?

AllPlayAndNoWork · February 2017

No

I would like a master trader, to tell me what trader is selling something i'm after... To save some time.

LtCrunch · February 2017

zaria wrote: »

Brandalf wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

An problem with an global action house is that it would push prices downward on common items and upward on popular ones.
Say you have some loot who is listed for 500 gold, you sell yours for 499 as you want an fast sale, number of items you can sell at once is limited. Next player sell his for 498 and so on until price is close to npc trader.

Popular stuff on the other hand will have prices skyrocket. You have plenty of players with lots of gold and they will grab rare items and push prices up a lot.

An global AH will also allow for price manipulation. You have lots of gold, now select an item who is pretty cheap not in great demand but needed a lot, tempers is an good excample.
Buy everything of it, now sell expensive, other sellers will follow your price. Suddenly epic tempers are more expensive than legendary ones Continue this until you have sold out the stored ones.
Repeat this on another item.

This has actually happened many times in ESO. The standout in my mind will always be when some big trade guilds bought up virtually all of the refined nightwood and reset the market price at a stupid mark-up. That lasted for a good couple weeks. Until those of us who recognized what was going on farmed the wood ourselves and brought the market back down to where it should've been.

Yes, and imagine how much easier it would be to do with one action house.
As its now its doable but pretty hard, lots of smaller guilds making it hard to get all.
With an global AH you could simply keep ESO minimized and look at it a few times each hour to monitor the prices.

Which is why I think most people are smart enough to realize a full-blown AH would cause new issues, even if it does solve some current issues. The ideal scenario would be something that would integrate well with the existing kiosk systems but wasn't a full-blown AH. Though again if we're being honest people could accomplish the type of stuff we're talking about relatively easy using the TTC website.

LtCrunch · February 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

TTC only updates if someones using the mod with the program in the background I believe, I found stuff that wasn't even listed on TTC at most times.

Yep. People need to have the add-on active when they visit a guild store.

It's pretty accurate for trading hubs, but people rarely visit traders that are outside of Rawl'kha, Mournhold, Wayrest, Grahtwood, and Belkarth so you don't get the complete picture.

I've started a guild with Cyx's approval(and help). We make sure every single kiosk in the game gets scanned on a daily basis. This has lead to listing older than 2 days to be completely removed from the pricing data. A Million+ (easily) of listed items scanned daily. Can't beat it really...well except for a true AH I suppose.

MLGProPlayer · February 2017

Yes

Brandalf wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

TTC only updates if someones using the mod with the program in the background I believe, I found stuff that wasn't even listed on TTC at most times.

Yep. People need to have the add-on active when they visit a guild store.

It's pretty accurate for trading hubs, but people rarely visit traders that are outside of Rawl'kha, Mournhold, Wayrest, Grahtwood, and Belkarth so you don't get the complete picture.

I've started a guild with Cyx's approval(and help). We make sure every single kiosk in the game gets scanned on a daily basis. This has lead to listing older than 2 days to be completely removed from the pricing data. A Million+ (easily) of listed items scanned daily. Can't beat it really...well except for a true AH I suppose.

Wow, You sir/madam are a hero. Wish there was some way players could donate gold to you guys without being flagged as gold sellers.

LtCrunch · February 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Brandalf wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

TTC only updates if someones using the mod with the program in the background I believe, I found stuff that wasn't even listed on TTC at most times.

Yep. People need to have the add-on active when they visit a guild store.

It's pretty accurate for trading hubs, but people rarely visit traders that are outside of Rawl'kha, Mournhold, Wayrest, Grahtwood, and Belkarth so you don't get the complete picture.

I've started a guild with Cyx's approval(and help). We make sure every single kiosk in the game gets scanned on a daily basis. This has lead to listing older than 2 days to be completely removed from the pricing data. A Million+ (easily) of listed items scanned daily. Can't beat it really...well except for a true AH I suppose.

Wow, You sir/madam are a hero. Wish there was some way players could donate gold to you guys without being flagged as gold sellers.

Hehe well just helping spread the word around is a good donation *wink* *wink*. Lots of misunderstanding and misinformation centered around TTC. I had a discussion with a trade guild leader who was convinced that TTC was breaking the TOS, simply because he didn't understand how it works . I explained it and he did a complete 180 on the whole subject. I've had to explain that TTC pricing isn't terribly easy to manipulate due to how the suggested prices are calculated. I get the feeling that's largely typical unfortunately. .

Bardolf · February 2017

No

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

This is amazing, hahaha.

Vipstaakki · February 2017

No

Can't we just all agree that AH is not the solution?

Integral1900 · February 2017

Yes

Yes, oh god yes

Yesterday I spent, sorry... wasted, two hours combing every blasted guild store in tamriel for purple redguard or Breton bookcases. Plans or finished items..... and found absolutely nothing, not of any style....

Two

Blasted

HOURS!!!!!

I reached such a frenzy of frustration that at one point I would of happily paid a quarter of million gold per bookcase! No more though, I give up, it can't be done, either the drop rate is screwed up or ZOS forgot to include them. Never thought I'd say this but I reackon I'm going to buy them from the crown store....

I know when I'm beaten

notimetocare · February 2017

No

srfrogg23 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

I still don't understand the fascination with guild traders.

Been looking to buy a 160 ring of willpower for several days now and going to each trader has become so tedious that I've given up on the prospect of purchasing one off somebody.

It's so tedious, it's a wonder anyone manages to sell anything using them

@srfrogg23

Do not see why your having an issue. Have no issue selling or buying myself. Maybe talk with some of your fellow guild trader friends about how they do it. Oh, if your not in a trading guild that may explain some things. Zero reason to not be.

^THIS! I belong to four Trade Guilds and have no problems making tons of gold each day; I just wish they would allow us more than 30 slots per Trader I could make even more.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

I'm trying to buy a specific thing at a decent price.

Looking through each and every vendor across each and every zone is lame.

It's tedious.

It sucks.

Guild traders are a crappy system. I have wasted ridiculous amounts of time looking for the things I want on something that doesn't even take that long in real life, let alone other MMOs.

Guild traders are a stupid idea.

Or... Just hear me out... You dont know where to look or what a decent price is.

Gorgoneus · February 2017

Yes

Of course YES. All modern games hase auction house but only TESO still using retrogradic system with separated traders people must *fight* for (if I want unnecessary complications in gameplay - I'll go play some corean game). And of course only salted hucksters voting NO, because this can shake their profit.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · February 2017

No

Artemiisia wrote: »

lets take the perfect thing thats happening right now as a example:

Heartwood hard to come by mat, supply and demand for sure, there are people running around buying all the mats and reselling it for 150% of normal price.

if we had just one AH, you would make it extremely easy for people like that to make gear/mats and so on, much more expensive than it would be.

AH = the rich gets richer, and the new people cant buy anything

Why do people keep spreading this "untruth".

The Kiosk system by limiting supply to market does more to push prices up than an AH that widens supply to market.

All The Best

Ojustaboo · February 2017

Yes

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

Just tried it for my first time.

yes I agree it's much better than nothing and is something I shall use from now, but it is no where near as good as a global AH or some form of in game real time search

Iv'e been farming to try and get a sharpened Inferno Staff of Necropotence, decided to see how much they were selling for, on that website.

They had a blue one listed for 150K from 2 days ago, another from 1 day ago at the same price at the same trader, I presume it's the same item, went there and the item must have already been sold.

They had a purple one listed for 189.999 from 13 hours ago again I went there, again it must have already been sold.

So I've wasted my time looking at an external website, then going to two traders (thankfully both were in Belkarth), only to find the item isn't there.

If I'm after a particular expensive item in real life, I contact the store before leaving my house to check they actually have the item and check the price. I do not spend ages travelling around various stores around the country on the off chance they might have it in stock.

I'm OK to have something different from a Global AH, but the current way the trading system works, doesn't do it for me . A proper real time search so I can go there and hope no ones beaten me to it would be a much preferred route if we have to keep this system.

SheepdogPaladin · February 2017

Yes

I played ESO for the first time back in September 2015 and I was very surprised that this game does not have a real auction house. Of course, there are some downsides to the auction house system, or any system for that matter, but the ESO trading system is very unfair and inconvenient.

My opinion mostly comes from a solo player's perspective. I'd rather not have to join a guild ever, but I am forced to do so in ESO if I want to sell things regularly. In other MMOs, I only have to head to the auction house, post whatever I wish, and then leave it at that. No joining a player guild required in other MMOs.

Here in ESO, I am limited to how many items I can post on each guild. With the auction house systems of other MMOs, I can post unlimited items. Shopping around in ESO is a pain in the backside and requires frequent travel to multiple zones if you want to find bargains. With the auction house of other MMOs, I can do all of my buying and selling from any single AH location and without having to join a guild. The ESO trading interface really sucks and why is there no search field function? I guess Zenimax never heard of the concept of search engines like Google.

Speaking of guilds, I feel that the ESO trading system is very unfair. Guild Masters have to bid weekly on their guild trader to win the spot they desire. Having a guild trader is a very costly ongoing concept. The ESO system fosters elitism on a grand scale. The "best" trading guilds won't accept you as a member unless your sales volume is very high. This is not the fault of the guilds themselves, but it is a very elitist in concept that was designed into the game.

If you want your guild trader to be in a prime location, a guild has to spend thousands to millions every week, along with continuous unreasonable work like running weekly raffles and selling stuff to raise the gold to keep winning your desired guild trader spot. The competition is fierce when it comes to keeping the guild trader spot you want. With the auction house of other MMOs, guilds don't have to put up with this and guilds can instead focus on the grouping and social aspect of what guilds were meant to be. I give credit to all the guild masters in ESO who put up with this system as it looks like an unreasonable amount of work. I suspect that guild masters who run the more elite trading guilds don't have much of a real life outside the game, as I can't see how a busy working adult (and possibly with family obligations) could have the time to put up with running an ESO trading guild.

I have to put up with the frequent in-game emails from guild masters begging people to participate in their weekly raffles. I'd rather not receive such constant "spam" to my in-game inbox, but I understand that guild masters are forced to do so in order to stay competitive for their guild trader spot. So I'm constantly hounded to participate in raffles and donate gold and items to all of my guilds on a weekly basis. I don't have to put up with this in other mainstream MMOs that have a real auction house.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2017

Yes

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Can't we just all agree that AH is not the solution?

Lol...

This thread is like a discussion between a Big network of shops and small trade, single shop owners.
Big network of shops:
"Nooo, we are the only one that have the holy right to sell stuff, and to dictate prices and to hoist them up ! We are the only one to deserve to have the monopoly ! "
Small trade, single shop owners:
"Erm.. I have a house, can I open store in it ?"

The problem lies in one simple thing that some people just refuse to understand:
How many % players actually "have" a guild store with merchant NPC ? How difficult is to keep that spot (even obscure one) ?
How difficult is to stay for a longer period of time in a trading guild that has a vendor NPC ?

You see where I am going ? 80 - 90 % of players simply don't even know how this trading mechanics work - because solo players & small guilds don't even have a chance to actually "have" a vendor NPC. And those people who are against Auction House are afraid that it will ruin the economy and cut big trading guilds profit.
And let me tell you one thing - such topics exists and will exists until ZOS will do something in that matter. It can be a couple of things:

No "auction house" - just a global "store" - with a limit of daily / weekly sales for solo / small guilds players and with the limited amount of profit they can make (example you earn more that 10 K to fast - and your daily / weekly limit is smaller etc.)

Or just add 3 NPC to the game (one per faction) - and they will simply "gather" a bunch of small guilds into one, but with some limitation of course, so the "big" trading guilds will not lose their position.

As you can see there are many ways - it don't necessarily need to be an "auction house".

Tranquilizer · February 2017

No

snakester320 wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

lets take the perfect thing thats happening right now as a example:

Heartwood hard to come by mat, supply and demand for sure, there are people running around buying all the mats and reselling it for 150% of normal price.

if we had just one AH, you would make it extremely easy for people like that to make gear/mats and so on, much more expensive than it would be.

AH = the rich gets richer, and the new people cant buy anything

Wrong at first it would be expensive but as more of the same items appeared there the price would go down simple marketing!
Volume dictates pricing more items cheaper prices
Besides the fact that's happening already at least with a AH very few ppl will under cut buy massive amounts and it will also put far more volume into the markets do the math amount of players vs guilds with traders x that by guild member limits ...
At a guess the volume of items being sold with a AH could be near a huge % more so lower prices ..
Once again the only ppl against this are the traders monopolising the markets and scared of what it will do to there business .. argue all you want but when you see the same guilds over and over in the same area what about the other 200 maybe more guilds or the 10000+ players that have stuff to sell?

No, Artemiisia is basically right, although heartwood is not a good example because it's not really hard to come by. There is just an overwhelming demand the first few days or weeks. atm heartwood is dramatically dropping in price.

But imagine this would be done to real rare items, like sharpened spriggan daggers for example. Imagine there is a player (or a handful of players) who own so much gold that they can buy every sharpened spriggan dagger, which will be sold for example for 200k each, and resell it for 600k. I saw these bahavior in lots of mmos I've played, a few real rare items in the hands of one player, dictating the price.

I wouldn't say these things are impossible with the current guild merchant system, but it makes it much more difficult to get into a market dominating position. With a global auction house, it requires literally no effort.

So no, no global ah.

snakester320 · February 2017

Yes

Sharee wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Yeah, arcane preferred. I've gone to just about every vendor over the last several days. My issue with this system is the asinine amount of time I've spent looking for the stupid ring.

But the asinine amount of time one has to spend to find a rare piece of equipment is the very reason why it is possible to find a good deal on it at all.

If looking it up took 3 seconds, a gold farmer (for whom gold is absolutely a non-issue) would find them all, and resell them at 4x - 10x the price (and continue to do so automatically), making it impossible to afford by getting gold from normal gameplay, pushing people into buying the gold from the gold farmer's website instead .

Doing that in a market that is split between many many small unconnected stores is much harder.

And that doesn't happen now with players scouting [snip] trader sites to sell in populated ones I see no valid argument here..
When you have high volume of items they will eventually get so cheap that they will make no money because the volume of players being able to sell will increase driving prices down not up!

[Edit for censor bypass]

Gandrhulf_Harbard · February 2017

No

Tranquilizer wrote: »

No, Artemiisia is basically right, although heartwood is not a good example because it's not really hard to come by. There is just an overwhelming demand the first few days or weeks. atm heartwood is dramatically dropping in price.

Artemiisia is wrong.

The single biggest factor that decides the price of a commodity is supply.

The shallower the supply-side pool the less likely it is to be able to cope with demand - whatever that level of demand is.

The Kiosk system has a very limited number of suppliers - because there are a fixed number of kiosks, each kiosk can only be owned by one guild, each guild has a limited number of slots, and each kiosk only allows each guild member to post a limited number of goods. As many high end traders are in more than one guild, and high end trade guild have developed ways of owning more than one kiosk we see the supply-side pool get ever shallower and so commodity prices rise. With kiosk fees rising this also pushes up the cost of commodities.

In effect the kiosk system reduces the possibility of a genuinely "free market".

With an global trade system (AH or Store List) anyone and everyone can list goods to be sold, offer the deepest supply-side pool possible - and so lowering prices because such a supply side pool is far more likely than any other to be able to keep up with demand.

Theoretically, less "leg work" is involved in cornering the market if there is only "one market outlet" but with a wider and deeper supply-side the pool the likelihood of anyone person doing so diminishes to the point of being inconsequential.

I have never once seen an game with a global trade system have a commodity "market cornered" - I have seen it tried, but I have never seen it succeed.

All The Best

snakester320 · February 2017

Yes

Tranquilizer wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

lets take the perfect thing thats happening right now as a example:

Heartwood hard to come by mat, supply and demand for sure, there are people running around buying all the mats and reselling it for 150% of normal price.

if we had just one AH, you would make it extremely easy for people like that to make gear/mats and so on, much more expensive than it would be.

AH = the rich gets richer, and the new people cant buy anything

Wrong at first it would be expensive but as more of the same items appeared there the price would go down simple marketing!
Volume dictates pricing more items cheaper prices
Besides the fact that's happening already at least with a AH very few ppl will under cut buy massive amounts and it will also put far more volume into the markets do the math amount of players vs guilds with traders x that by guild member limits ...
At a guess the volume of items being sold with a AH could be near a huge % more so lower prices ..
Once again the only ppl against this are the traders monopolising the markets and scared of what it will do to there business .. argue all you want but when you see the same guilds over and over in the same area what about the other 200 maybe more guilds or the 10000+ players that have stuff to sell?

No, Artemiisia is basically right, although heartwood is not a good example because it's not really hard to come by. There is just an overwhelming demand the first few days or weeks. atm heartwood is dramatically dropping in price.

But imagine this would be done to real rare items, like sharpened spriggan daggers for example. Imagine there is a player (or a handful of players) who own so much gold that they can buy every sharpened spriggan dagger, which will be sold for example for 200k each, and resell it for 600k. I saw these bahavior in lots of mmos I've played, a few real rare items in the hands of one player, dictating the price.

I wouldn't say these things are impossible with the current guild merchant system, but it makes it much more difficult to get into a market dominating position. With a global auction house, it requires literally no effort.

So no, no global ah.

what stops them doing that now but time??? ppl will always under cut there stupid prices much easier to see a bargain with a ah than to screw around going from trader to trader.. items like the daggers while rare do you know how many players who don't have a guild with a trader have them?? why is there already a price diff between traders doubt you will find any for 10k so ppl will pay a price and that's it do you really think ppl are going to just pay 600k went they have been 200k No they will wait till someone puts some in at the decent price..
now it's about guilds with big bids on traders to monopolise the markets already how is that any diff to buying up all the rare stuff and reselling high to own the market?
I've played mmos and the markets within them for 3 + years ffxiv has a global AH of sorts and here's how it works if the item is new and rare say the first set of your sharpened daggers ever to be put in the AH and you want 10 mill till you sell them 10 mill means nothing if no one buys them you will keep dropping the price till some one buys then you have set the price unless others start to undercut you in which case you will undercut them till the items sells..
Even if you have a group that buys up all the rare stuff and dumps it back in higher if the price has been set at 200k very few will blow another 400k on something they can just wait till some one undercuts the high price!

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Yes

notimetocare wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

I still don't understand the fascination with guild traders.

Been looking to buy a 160 ring of willpower for several days now and going to each trader has become so tedious that I've given up on the prospect of purchasing one off somebody.

It's so tedious, it's a wonder anyone manages to sell anything using them

@srfrogg23

Do not see why your having an issue. Have no issue selling or buying myself. Maybe talk with some of your fellow guild trader friends about how they do it. Oh, if your not in a trading guild that may explain some things. Zero reason to not be.

^THIS! I belong to four Trade Guilds and have no problems making tons of gold each day; I just wish they would allow us more than 30 slots per Trader I could make even more.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

I'm trying to buy a specific thing at a decent price.

Looking through each and every vendor across each and every zone is lame.

It's tedious.

It sucks.

Guild traders are a crappy system. I have wasted ridiculous amounts of time looking for the things I want on something that doesn't even take that long in real life, let alone other MMOs.

Guild traders are a stupid idea.

Or... Just hear me out... You dont know where to look or what a decent price is.

Such as...?

Castagere · February 2017

Yes

srfrogg23 wrote: »

I still don't understand the fascination with guild traders.

Been looking to buy a 160 ring of willpower for several days now and going to each trader has become so tedious that I've given up on the prospect of purchasing one off somebody.

It's so tedious, it's a wonder anyone manages to sell anything using them

This system sucks and is one of the reasons why some people don't play the game. It rewards guilds that have the gold to have a trader. Its total BS.

bloodthirstyvampire · February 2017

Yes

I agree but i dont think zos could pull it off sure maybe something similar tho i dont know what

jedtb16_ESO · February 2017

No

do people who call for an auction house even know what they are asking for?

do you know what an auction is?

auction definition: a public sale in which goods or property are sold to the highest bidder.

that is what you are asking for.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Yes

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

do people who call for an auction house even know what they are asking for?

do you know what an auction is?

auction definition: a public sale in which goods or property are sold to the highest bidder.

that is what you are asking for.

You're talking about real auction houses.

We're talking about MMO auction houses. MMO auction houses are not real auction houses.

MMO auction houses are an in game consolidated listing of items being sold by players. They are a one-stop-shop for buying and selling BoE items.

They save time. The current system wastes time.

Tasear · February 2017

No

It's interesting this way.

danno8 · February 2017

Integral1900 wrote: »

Yes, oh god yes

Yesterday I spent, sorry... wasted, two hours combing every blasted guild store in tamriel for purple redguard or Breton bookcases. Plans or finished items..... and found absolutely nothing, not of any style....

Two

Blasted

HOURS!!!!!

I reached such a frenzy of frustration that at one point I would of happily paid a quarter of million gold per bookcase! No more though, I give up, it can't be done, either the drop rate is screwed up or ZOS forgot to include them. Never thought I'd say this but I reackon I'm going to buy them from the crown store....

I know when I'm beaten

@Integral1900

https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade/SearchResult?ItemID=14264&TradeType=Sell&ItemNamePattern=Redguard+Bookcase,+Full&ItemCategory1ID=&ItemCategory2ID=&ItemCategory3ID=&ItemTraitID=&ItemQualityID=3&IsChampionPoint=false&LevelMin=&LevelMax=&PriceMin=&PriceMax=

SwimsWithMemes · February 2017

No

We just need an in game search function. Just type words from the item name or set, and it comes up. THen you combine this with stuff like TTC - go to the guild that listed it, type your 15 characters, and it's not there? Oh well, next shop. Still encourages diversity, and takes the major pain out of the current way of searching for specific items (Even AGS can be slow)

danno8 · February 2017

Ojustaboo wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

Just tried it for my first time.

yes I agree it's much better than nothing and is something I shall use from now, but it is no where near as good as a global AH or some form of in game real time search

Iv'e been farming to try and get a sharpened Inferno Staff of Necropotence, decided to see how much they were selling for, on that website.

They had a blue one listed for 150K from 2 days ago, another from 1 day ago at the same price at the same trader, I presume it's the same item, went there and the item must have already been sold.

They had a purple one listed for 189.999 from 13 hours ago again I went there, again it must have already been sold.

So I've wasted my time looking at an external website, then going to two traders (thankfully both were in Belkarth), only to find the item isn't there.

If I'm after a particular expensive item in real life, I contact the store before leaving my house to check they actually have the item and check the price. I do not spend ages travelling around various stores around the country on the off chance they might have it in stock.

I'm OK to have something different from a Global AH, but the current way the trading system works, doesn't do it for me . A proper real time search so I can go there and hope no ones beaten me to it would be a much preferred route if we have to keep this system.

Hot items like your sharpened inferno staff do go very fast. I used the site to get me a sharpened spinners sword. It took a couple tries but I eventually found one for under 200k, which was pretty good at the time considering they were often listed at 500k+.

Like you said, it isn't perfect, but it's a huge benefit to searching around all of Tamriel.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Yes

danno8 wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Yes, oh god yes

Yesterday I spent, sorry... wasted, two hours combing every blasted guild store in tamriel for purple redguard or Breton bookcases. Plans or finished items..... and found absolutely nothing, not of any style....

Two

Blasted

HOURS!!!!!

I reached such a frenzy of frustration that at one point I would of happily paid a quarter of million gold per bookcase! No more though, I give up, it can't be done, either the drop rate is screwed up or ZOS forgot to include them. Never thought I'd say this but I reackon I'm going to buy them from the crown store....

I know when I'm beaten

@Integral1900

https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade/SearchResult?ItemID=14264&TradeType=Sell&ItemNamePattern=Redguard+Bookcase,+Full&ItemCategory1ID=&ItemCategory2ID=&ItemCategory3ID=&ItemTraitID=&ItemQualityID=3&IsChampionPoint=false&LevelMin=&LevelMax=&PriceMin=&PriceMax=

Stop playing the game, minimize ESO, go to a third party website that consolidates a list of items for sale. I.e., a third party global auction house.

That is a bad idea. Cookies infected with key logging malware so people can hack your account and steal your credit card information are just one of the dangers associated with this kind of proposed solution.

Sausage · February 2017

No

I think its fine as its, but I would add Thief Guild Global Search Service.

Darkstorne · February 2017

Yes

danno8 wrote: »

I use this now any time I am looking for a specific item.

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

You can use the site for browsing all the guild kiosks across Tamriel, and if you want to participate you can use the addon and client so you can give them information when you use Kiosks.

Best thing ever and basically allows for a Global Auction House effect.

Wow! Seriously, this is exactly what the game needs. I would be fine needing to travel to individual trade stores to buy items, so long as there was a central database (perhaps in city banks?) that I could search for everything in one place. And in a weird way, it shouldn't be surprising that a TES game ends up relying on the modding community for a feature as essential as this

I get why a lot of people vote "no" - you're pretty much all salespeople in trade guilds. But from a casual player's perspective who just wants to buy things, the current system is complete garbage, and prevents me from buying anything from any of your stores.