ZOS, stop moving skills around, if...

fred4 · February 2017

...you aren't competent enough to retain the levelling of said skills. You didn't do it properly in One Tamriel. You screwed it up in the Homestead patch again. See this thread:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/323010/some-abilities-have-de-leveled-after-respec

jircris11 · February 2017

Eh honestly I prefer how it is. Besides lvling a skill line is not hard

Tryxus · February 2017

Skyreach Catacombs

> that way

ADarklore · February 2017

I think it took me 30 minutes to level Bound Armor up to level 4 after the update, as others have said, it's not difficult and none of the skills effected are 'life or death' skills... it's a pain, but not something to rage about. Besides that, they have never changed the order of skills before, so saying they 'didn't do it properly in One Tamriel' isn't true... there is a LOT they did extremely well with One Tamriel.

fred4 · February 2017

I am not talking about the general merits of One Tamriel. Moreover, please do your research before saying something is or isn't true. From the One Tamriel patch notes, available here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294849/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-4-update-12-one-tamriel

Dragonknight

Ardent Flame
Fiery Grip: Switched the position of this ability with the Lava Whip ability as seen in the skill line UI.

That skill was switched in OT and I can assure you it de-levelled for me then. If you don't believe me you can also search for Sypher mentioning it in one of his videos. You're welcome to your opinions, but please don't back them with false assertions.

While many (but not all) skills level quickly to morph, they do tend to level much more slowly afterwards.

STEVIL · February 2017

fred4 wrote: »

I am not talking about the general merits of One Tamriel. Moreover, please do your research before saying something is or isn't true. From the One Tamriel patch notes, available here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294849/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-4-update-12-one-tamriel

Dragonknight

Ardent Flame
Fiery Grip: Switched the position of this ability with the Lava Whip ability as seen in the skill line UI.

That skill was switched in OT and I can assure you it de-levelled for me then. If you don't believe me you can also search for Sypher mentioning it in one of his videos. You're welcome to your opinions, but please don't back them with false assertions.

While many (but not all) skills level quickly to morph, they do tend to level much more slowly afterwards.

In reference to how quickly they restore...

But from my own personal experience in this very patch... had skill drop from morphed rank 4 to unmorphed rank 3. it leveled quickly to morphable and as soon as i morphed it back to the original morph it went straight to rank 4.

It turned out to ne a minor annoyance that resolved itself within a couple undaunted delves.

THAT SAID - i agree it should have been handled better and not dropped at all. just not to the level of ire some seem to have.

fred4 · February 2017

My level of ire has to do with being a programmer myself.

Preyfar · February 2017

It's not difficult to do... but it's not something we should have to do.

STEVIL · February 2017

fred4 wrote: »

My level of ire has to do with being a programmer myself.

So i guess that means you take your work "home" or at least into your "forums"?

20+ years as coder/it project manager for multiple major software releases myself and as bugs go in terms of severity, scope, difficulty to overcome and permanent loss in the context of a release the size and scope of Homestead with all the housing systems plus big balance shifts... this bug wouldn't even cause a raised eyebrow or cause me to pause chewing my morning bagel

unlike say, the map chest painting one where due to it folks "burned" treasure maps they wont get replaced.

i save any ire i might generate for issues where its more than a brief hiccup that vanishes on its own with no permanent loss.

But some have more ire to spare than i do, it seems.

SanTii.92 · February 2017

welcome to almost three weeks ago...

lailoken · February 2017

OP, did you participate in the PTS? No? Then you blew a chance to leave feedback and possibly prevent the change, and you don't really have anyone but yourself to blame.

If you did, disregard.

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

The morphs retained their levels, just not the base skills. I had to grind up Poison Arrow, but that only took an hour or so I guess...

Alpheu5 · February 2017

lailoken wrote: »

OP, did you participate in the PTS? No? Then you blew a chance to leave feedback and possibly prevent the change, and you don't really have anyone but yourself to blame.

If you did, disregard.

If OP plays on a Mac then there was no way for them to participate in that aspect of the PTS.

fred4 · February 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

this bug wouldn't even cause a raised eyebrow or cause me to pause chewing my morning bagel

I'll make a note not to hire you.

fred4 · February 2017

Guys, this was written immediately after respeccing my DK today. I am glad to learn skills will fix themselves as soon as morphed. Thank you everyone.

Solariken · February 2017

Having to re-level skills is annoying AF, especially on alts I rarely play.

fred4 · February 2017

Solariken wrote: »

Having to re-level skills is annoying AF, especially on alts I rarely play.

It seems to only happen, this patch, for skills you previously levelled, but not currently invested points in, OR when you do a respec.

phaneub17_ESO · February 2017

While they went down in base level, they seemed to have kept their previous Morph levels. It may be back down to Rank 1 or 2 after the switch, once you morph it the skill immediately jumps back to whatever it was previously before the change.

STEVIL · February 2017

fred4 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

this bug wouldn't even cause a raised eyebrow or cause me to pause chewing my morning bagel

I'll make a note not to hire you.

not a risk of that, you dont have enough money for that.