Crown price ranges are realistic or crazy for unfurnished houses?

Zvorgin · January 2017

Sensible

Ackwalan wrote: »

Considering crown store items are just "cosmetic" spending a hundred dollars on a single item should include a month or two of ESO+ with it.

The reverse is the case, paying a subscription gives you crowns toward a house (or anything else you want to purchase with crowns).

Sigtric · January 2017

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Legoless wrote: »

These prices are crazy if they want to have Crown Store-exclusive housing. That's a content paywall as far as I'm concerned.

Much content in this game is behind a paywall. Pay to get the base game. Pay to get the previous DLC content, pay to get incoming DLC content. Housing is a free update you can use in game gold for to get most of it. Paywall for a couple large properties. So... ?

PurifedBladez · January 2017

Other....

Unforgivable

Tavore1138 · January 2017

Other....

Seriously why bother playing if the crown prices just mock people who bother playing the game?

I can spend a few months playing or I can spend a single nights beer money... ffs...

PurifedBladez · January 2017

Other....

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

The smartest way to do housing seems to be, buy the house with gold, craft most of your furniture, and buy select, hard to get items with crowns. Of course you will be investing time, 3 - 4 months maybe, to get all your furniture through crafting.

And then when it's all done it's an empty hollow shell just like the rest of the buildings in eso.

altemriel · January 2017

Too high...

Mitoice wrote: »

Too high for a cosmetic only home

no storage, no banker access to guild store, no wayshrine access, low visitor cap, no stolen items show up.....

Slurg · January 2017

Too high...

Alaztor91 wrote: »

Why are people surprised about the prices?
ZoS sells reskinned senches, horses and wolves on the CS for DLC price or more and people still buy them, those prices are obviously working for them.

As long as this ''overpriced'' stuff is purely cosmetical and doesn't gives in game benefits, does it really matter?

I wouldn't say most people are surprised; a lot of us expect high prices. Doesn't mean we have to like it or agree with it.

After seeing furniture prices on PTS I wondered if they would make unfurnished houses relatively affordable with crowns to encourage people to buy more houses, and ultimately spend more on crown furnishings. Looks like no. But we haven't seen the prices on furnished houses yet - maybe this is meant to make those look like a bargain.

It's mostly a mental exercise on my part - I am buying with gold anyway, and in the big picture, it is only cosmetic. But I do feel sympathy for the people for whom this stuff matters a lot more.

Turelus · January 2017

Sensible

Seems about what I was expecting. Considering the manors are 3.7mil gold they needed to add a reasonably high price to keep it balanced.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

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altemriel wrote: »

Mitoice wrote: »

Too high for a cosmetic only home

no storage, no banker access to guild store, no wayshrine access, low visitor cap, no stolen items show up.....

Atleast its account wide but other than that way way to high for average player base imo, the largest house in Swtor was only about 20$ to unlock it with CCs.

2500 ccs to unlock tatooine stronghold which is the largest house - 5500 ccs = 39.99 (Exact pricing as ZoS's crowns 5500 = 39.99)

Tavore1138 · January 2017

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PurifedBladez wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

The smartest way to do housing seems to be, buy the house with gold, craft most of your furniture, and buy select, hard to get items with crowns. Of course you will be investing time, 3 - 4 months maybe, to get all your furniture through crafting.

And then when it's all done it's an empty hollow shell just like the rest of the buildings in eso.

Says it all - they don't want people playing the game they want us to spend crowns and skip any kind of actual play experience, pitching the crown stuff just high enough to suck in minimum cash - effing scumbags... morals are for others...

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2017

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WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

The higher end houses are more than I would spend in real-world money for something with no story attached, however it doesn't seem out of line with the other cosmetic-only things in the Crown Store--certainly it seems better value than the Elk mount. I do suspect I am going to need to let go of any dreams of owning Earthtear Cavern as it seems unlikely it's going to be in my price range.

@Oreyn_Bearclaw They said they hadn't set the 'furnished' prices yet.

@WhiteCoatSyndrome

Thanks for the clarification and info.

I actually think they got these prices just about right. They are just low enough that I am saying, yeah 10k crowns is a lot, but I can earn that money a heck of a lot faster IRL than I can grind 3.8 million in game. I have plenty of gold to buy any house I want, but at this point, I frankly see myself buying an unfurnished manor with crowns and using my gold to trick it out with trophies. Well played, ZOS, well played. If they had been much more, I probably would have just bought a large house with in game gold and been done with it. I think they found the line.

DHale · January 2017

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Holy s batman..... smokes I meant smokes.

czar · January 2017

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HeroOfNone wrote: »

I feel I need to discuss this "100 dollar" myth. The cost is not $100 dollars, your assuming you 100 crowns are valued at $1. Stop that.

[...]

Keep in mind to zenimax, this value could be even lower, as they probably sell ESO plus crowns at a discount given the other features you get with that.

I don't see why it matters. People pay in different currencies.

Haroeris · January 2017

Too high...

Considering previous DLC updates with entire zones were <<5k crowns each (or the first 4 DLCs together for 5k crowns with the pack bundle), this is an unprecedented step up in price, and simply a IRL price I am not willing to pay.

I am fortunate enough however to be able to purchase a large house with enough scrounged-up in-game gold -- an option I am very pleased ZOS implemented -- but it's obvious that the vast majority of players can't do that, and will be disappointed in their inability to explore much of this new (albeit mainly cosmetic) content.

So I'm not spending a dime, only my in-game time! Because it's too freaking expensive.

Xsorus · January 2017

I understand why they did it this way.
They put it high in the beginning and get any whales that might be playing. Most players will instead decide to spend gold which has the benefit of removing large sums of gold from the economy which will reduce inflation some what. After the initial splurge has worn off they'll drop the house prices down or offer crown sales which will end up with another burst of cash for them.

Jsmalls · January 2017

Sensible

3.5 million isn't hard to acquire in game... That being said it's COSMETIC. I encourage Zos to keep funding their business with ideas like this. Keeps not content coming and the audience's attention alive. Good job Zos.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2017

Too high...

Turelus wrote: »

Seems about what I was expecting. Considering the manors are 3.7mil gold they needed to add a reasonably high price to keep it balanced.

@Turelus

Honest question

Why should balance apply to a cosmetic only item?
Is there an impact to the gold sink that is on some sort of table or chart to relate this to others?

Asking in terms of the concept you're applying and not for any actual tables so to speak. The gold doesn't transfer between players and these are unfurnished prices.

Seems a worthwhile discussion to have as many are just complaining.

Acrolas · January 2017

Would I rather have a $100 Lego building set that will last generations or a $100 laggy digital dollhouse that won't exist when they turn the server off?

I ask myself, What Would Lobster-Lovin’ Batman™ Do?™

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

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Jsmalls wrote: »

3.5 million isn't hard to acquire in game... That being said it's COSMETIC. I encourage Zos to keep finding their business with ideas like this. Keeps not content coming and the audience's attention alive. Good job Zos.

You might want to reconsider that last statement, the CM is failing hardcore in Swtor right now since they're paying more attention to the cash shop than the actual game. Also the prices seem to rise higher = more players end up leaving.

Turelus · January 2017

Sensible

@NewBlacksmurf when I wrote balance I actually deleted it as it wasn't really saying what I wanted, but then put it back as I couldn't think of a better word.

Generally game balance or gold/crowns balance it doesn't matter no, there is no balance per say. I mean more erm... ugh I don't know, keeping a somewhat consistent ratio of crown to challenge to gain in game? If that makes any sense.

Sorry I am crashing (coffee is wearing off) so can't think how to say what I want.

Senk3tsu · January 2017

Surprised....

I was expecting the manor houses to be around that price range, but it is a tad crazy when you think that it is the price for the unfurnished home. There is a ton of space in those three.
That being said I'm going to guess that the furnished prices for the most expensive are going to be upwards of 15,000 crowns.
Either way it looks like I won't be getting one anytime soon, gold or crowns.

Bouldercleave · January 2017

Too high...

Jsmalls wrote: »

3.5 million isn't hard to acquire in game... That being said it's COSMETIC. I encourage Zos to keep funding their business with ideas like this. Keeps not content coming and the audience's attention alive. Good job Zos.

It is for very large percentage of the population. Not everyone plays the market game. It took me a LONG time to acquire that much wealth.

billp_ESO · January 2017

Other....

Housing has no value until it has at least some kind of function in the game, like storage, rest bonuses, etc.

I didn't buy ESO to play the Sims and play house offline.

E-Zekiel · January 2017

Too high...

They're too high. The increments need to be smaller. The small one being 1k is fine, but then it should go 1k, 2k, 3k, 4k, maybe up to 5k.

Not going from like...1k, then 3k, then 5k, then 10k. The jumps are way too big. Particularly when they're unfurnished. If they were furnished, then maybe, but then I'd say it should be an increment of like 1.5k rather than 1.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

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Senk3tsu wrote: »

I was expecting the manor houses to be around that price range, but it is a tad crazy when you think that it is the price for the unfurnished home. There is a ton of space in those three.
That being said I'm going to guess that the furnished prices for the most expensive are going to be upwards of 15,000 crowns.
Either way it looks like I won't be getting one anytime soon, gold or crowns.

Lmao take what i said back about how cheap the largest house was in Swtor, I just found a chart in Swtor for the max priced for unlocking everything in each house it compares to exactly the same prices as Eso, or very very close to them.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2017

Too high...

Turelus wrote: »

@NewBlacksmurf when I wrote balance I actually deleted it as it wasn't really saying what I wanted, but then put it back as I couldn't think of a better word.

Generally game balance or gold/crowns balance it doesn't matter no, there is no balance per say. I mean more erm... ugh I don't know, keeping a somewhat consistent ratio of crown to challenge to gain in game? If that makes any sense.

Sorry I am crashing (coffee is wearing off) so can't think how to say what I want.

@Turelus

O K so if it's O K let's go with the phrase "close ratios"

Meaning that the price of a home in crowns seeks to establish close ratios based on the ability to earn in game gold and amounts currently moving in the economy vs the amount of crowns a customer has and the probability of them buying/spending crowns over working on gold.

If this.....my opinion is that crowns should not be in close ratio evaluations for gold.

I feel that each should stay completely seperate unless the crown item provides an in game advantage other than cosmetics.

Examples:
Bag space, mount upgrades, exp Scrolls should be on the higher scales while things like motif, mounts and costumes should be on a much lower scale not relative to current prices but an overall display in crowns

Thoughts?

Niaver · January 2017

Too high...

That's like 80$ for unfirnished manor?
Cool, that's like a half of an avarage wage in my country

I guess it's not that bad for USA and Germany and France, which are clearly their target audience. But still, 60$ is normal price for full AAA games.

Edit: typo.

HeroOfNone · January 2017

schip wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

I feel I need to discuss this "100 dollar" myth. The cost is not $100 dollars, your assuming you 100 crowns are valued at $1. Stop that.

[...]

Keep in mind to zenimax, this value could be even lower, as they probably sell ESO plus crowns at a discount given the other features you get with that.

I don't see why it matters. People pay in different currencies.

It is an assumption that most mean a $100 dollars USD, but you can take any of the values listed and convert the currency you desire. It still won't do much in changing the fact that the retsil price some are listing isn't the actual value of the houses after sales.

Frondale · January 2017

Sensible

MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

10k too high for a manor? Someone people would complain if Zo$ sold it for 2gold.

I am actually shocked the prices are that small. I thought for certain the manors would be 20k minimum. I am estaic to hear 10k....I don't really care if it is furnished or not. Decorating the thing is the fun part for me.

The decorating is the part I enjoy the most also.

I am torn between perhaps 3 homes to purchase however

I have decided to use crowns to buy my home and then use ingame gold or crafting to furnish it.

A higher decorating count would be awesome especially for decorating the gardens is my only wish so we can really get creative to our hearts content. Storage also and the beds are usable to gain a sleep bonus. We might get those later.

I have spent more real dollars buying Sims games than the dearest manors. Purely because I love to design and decorate.

Can someone confirm to me as I have not played the PTS this time. If I buy a particular faction home, I can use any style of furniture I like? I am not restricted to that faction only?

Cheers
Fron

Lukums1 · January 2017

Called it 10k + easy for manors regardless furnished or unfurnished.