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Crown price ranges are realistic or crazy for unfurnished houses?

  • MilwaukeeScott
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    Too high...
    -apartments
    -small houses
    -medium houses
    -large houses
    -manors
    -CAVERNS?


    Any info on the Caverns? They are the Crown Store exclusives.
    Edited by MilwaukeeScott on January 27, 2017 9:32PM
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Too high...
    Zvorgin wrote: »
    Grileenor wrote: »
    I came back to the game last month after a long break because of my excited for Homestead.

    I've done nothing since that time but prepare: Gathering mats, farming for gold, completing achievements. I even purchased more than 10,000 crowns to be able to both get the house and some of the cool crown only furniture.
    Really? Ever thought about buying 9000 crowns by subbing for 6 month getting both? :joy:

    The prices are as expected. There are loads of players hoarding their crowns due to ESO plus. The HOUSES are much more than mere wearables or mounts. And most HOUSES are even cheaper than some of the pets. Nearly nobody will pay real money for a 10000+ crowns island, right. But those islands are not for F2P players. And as mentioned above, it is not very bright to buy that much crowns without subbing anyway :lol:

    People seem to forget subbing for 6 months basically gives you any house you want.

    @Zvorgin

    Thats only 9000 crowns which only affords a large unfurnished home at best 10,000 is needed to start considering a manor but furnished homes would seem to exceed a 12 month subscription in the case of "any house"
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  • VampiricByNature
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    These unfurnished prices made me afraid to see the furnished prices. :/
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    It's actually less than I expected. But in my opinion the major advantage of crown houses is the furnished version, so the furnished version may be around what I expected.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    yeah that's fine. don't like it? don't buy it.

    #caveatemptor
  • Agobi
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    Too high...
    With housing in it's (imo) unfinished state,it is too much.

    Add storage chests,armor displays and all the other cool stuff associated with ingame housing ,then we can talk...
  • Riggsy
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    lol with all these people saying 10k is too high for a manor, go back and read the threads where people thought the manor would be atleast 15k if not 20k due to the gold cost in the millions. Now 10k is apparently too much... I have a feeling if they were 5k there would be unhappy people complaining.
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  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Too high...
    souravami wrote: »
    10k for a manor is very sensible when a damn motif book is going for 6k.

    That assumes that 6k for a motif book is sensible.

    And anyone with any sense at all knows it isn't.

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  • Tandor
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    I think they're very sensible, not least when compared with the price of a motif. I admit to being pleasantly surprised.

    As a non-trader with a large roster of characters who are largely self-sufficient I could only manage around 75K in terms of gold after playing for 3 years, but I don't mind in the slightest using the Crowns from a few months subscriptions in order to make a one-off purchase that will last me for the years I intend to continue playing the game. Dealing with the furnishing aspect will be one of the long-term aspects of the game that will keep me entertained as my crafting progresses.
  • Alaztor91
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    Why are people surprised about the prices?
    ZoS sells reskinned senches, horses and wolves on the CS for DLC price or more and people still buy them, those prices are obviously working for them.

    As long as this ''overpriced'' stuff is purely cosmetical and doesn't gives in game benefits, does it really matter?
  • Vudokan
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    Too high...
    Prices are OUTRAGEOUS for the larger homes, OMG. I would have seriously considered buying crowns to get a house if it meant reducing in-game grind, but there's no way they're going to convince me to pay more than 5k for a large house, MAYBE 7 or 8k for notable, at most.

    I've got to wonder what's up with ZOS when it comes to this type of thing. Crown store prices are getting more and more insane. They seem to rely rely on a few whales, but it seems they'd make more money with slightly more reasonable prices a few more players could afford.

    Oh well, they lose my crowns. I'm going straight in-game gold with all of this, for sure.
  • Grileenor
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    Zvorgin wrote: »
    Grileenor wrote: »
    I came back to the game last month after a long break because of my excited for Homestead.

    I've done nothing since that time but prepare: Gathering mats, farming for gold, completing achievements. I even purchased more than 10,000 crowns to be able to both get the house and some of the cool crown only furniture.
    Really? Ever thought about buying 9000 crowns by subbing for 6 month getting both? :joy:

    The prices are as expected. There are loads of players hoarding their crowns due to ESO plus. The HOUSES are much more than mere wearables or mounts. And most HOUSES are even cheaper than some of the pets. Nearly nobody will pay real money for a 10000+ crowns island, right. But those islands are not for F2P players. And as mentioned above, it is not very bright to buy that much crowns without subbing anyway :lol:

    People seem to forget subbing for 6 months basically gives you any house you want.
    People seem to forget to think before they cry :wink:
  • AlMcFly
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    souravami wrote: »
    10k for a manor is very sensible when a damn motif book is going for 6k.

    That assumes that 6k for a motif book is sensible.

    And anyone with any sense at all knows it isn't.

    All The Best

    Right. I wouldn't be surprised if ZOS planned for homes to cost this much a year ago. The Elk mount and Dro'mathra absurd prices were just to mentally prepare consumers for the insane housing prices. This economic plan has probably been building to this moment with steady Crown Store valuation increases for a long time.
    Edited by AlMcFly on January 27, 2017 9:41PM
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Too high...
    Riggsy wrote: »
    lol with all these people saying 10k is too high for a manor, go back and read the threads where people thought the manor would be atleast 15k if not 20k due to the gold cost in the millions. Now 10k is apparently too much... I have a feeling if they were 5k there would be unhappy people complaining.

    5k for a cosmetic item that has no function at all except to be a time and gold sink is more than enough to be honest.

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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Riggsy wrote: »
    lol with all these people saying 10k is too high for a manor, go back and read the threads where people thought the manor would be atleast 15k if not 20k due to the gold cost in the millions. Now 10k is apparently too much... I have a feeling if they were 5k there would be unhappy people complaining.

    hey, they could be free and people would still whine....
  • GawdSB
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    Too high...
    Unfurnished... Housing literally does nothing for you, unless you get the dummy.
  • GawdSB
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    Too high...
    But, it does leave good opportunities for crafters to actually build stuff for the houses, instead of everyone getting them furnished.
  • Velvelya
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    Too high...
    Too high, lemme know when you can actually store items and it has a purpose beyond aesthetic and being a money sink.
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    The higher end houses are more than I would spend in real-world money for something with no story attached, however it doesn't seem out of line with the other cosmetic-only things in the Crown Store--certainly it seems better value than the Elk mount. I do suspect I am going to need to let go of any dreams of owning Earthtear Cavern as it seems unlikely it's going to be in my price range. :p

    @Oreyn_Bearclaw They said they hadn't set the 'furnished' prices yet.
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  • Danikat
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    Too high...
    The smartest way to do housing seems to be, buy the house with gold, craft most of your furniture, and buy select, hard to get items with crowns. Of course you will be investing time, 3 - 4 months maybe, to get all your furniture through crafting.

    That's my plan. I decided after checking it out on the PTS that I'd spend about £10 (2,500 crowns) on housing. Since I can't get the house I want for that I'll buy the house with gold, buy most of the decorations with gold and save the crowns for decorations I can't find anywhere else.
    BigBragg wrote: »
    ....just like whoever is coming up with the Crown Store prices.

    ^This.

    And for those saying "You can get them in game with gold!" They've already said that there's going to be Crown Store exclusive homes as well. So no. No matter how many times I try to throw my gold that way, it's not going to matter for those houses.

    True, but that only applies if you want those two. (Which by the way are a cave, or rather a rock shelf under an overhang and a beach next to a small island which is blocked off by invisible walls.)

    There's 36 other homes to choose from. Based on discussions on the PTS the store-exclusives aren't even the most popular.
    Marto wrote: »
    Double what they should be.

    Hell, horses and apartments are the same price with gold.
    But with crowns, horses are 400c and apartments 1000c

    Horses (the plain ones without any effects) cost 900 crowns.

    Come to think of it a few people (including me) tried using horses and other items that can be bought with gold or crowns to estimate house prices and then wrote it off as a method because there wasn't any consistency between crown store items.
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  • Tryxus
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    Too high...
    Considering they don't have storage and are unfurnished... way too high

    Better to fork over ingame gold instead
    Edited by Tryxus on January 27, 2017 9:52PM
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  • itehache
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    I don't really mind the prices since I was never going to spend real money for an online house. While I agree it's a lot of money, 3,5milion in-game gold it's also a lot of farming and I was expecting the crown prices to be this high.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Not surprised. I feel I need to discuss this "100 dollar" myth. The cost is not $100 dollars, your assuming you 100 crowns are valued at $1. Stop that.

    Retail cost for crowns is 5500 crowns for $39.99, or $0.73 for 100.

    On sale the value drops more, 5500 crowns for $24.99, or $0.45 for 100.

    The actual value is between those two numbers, since, regardless if you bought them or not, crowns put on sale reduced the over all value. That means the value of your homes are:

    Apartments - 1000 crowns = $4.54/$7.27
    Small homes - 3100 to 4000 = $14.09/$22.54 to $18.17/$29.08
    Medium homes - 5000 to 6500 = $22.72/$36.35 to $29.53/$47.26
    Large homes - 7500 to 8500 = $34.08/$54.53 to $38.62/$61.80
    Manor - 10,000 = $45.44/$72.71

    Keep in mind to zenimax, this value could be even lower, as they probably sell ESO plus crowns at a discount given the other features you get with that.

    Now if your upset that you never got your crowns on sale, never fear, the 2nd anniversary is right around the corner! And with such events, new crown pack discounts are typical to drive down the value of your crowns.
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  • Ackwalan
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    Too high...
    Considering crown store items are just "cosmetic" spending a hundred dollars on a single item should include a month or two of ESO+ with it.
  • UrQuan
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    I agree with your post @HeroOfNone and thanks for doing some math on these. That said, I look at this:
    HeroOfNone wrote: »
    Apartments - 1000 crowns = $4.54/$7.27
    Small homes - 3100 to 4000 = $14.09/$22.54 to $18.17/$29.08
    Medium homes - 5000 to 6500 = $22.72/$36.35 to $29.53/$47.26
    Large homes - 7500 to 8500 = $34.08/$54.53 to $38.62/$61.80
    Manor - 10,000 = $45.44/$72.71
    And I wonder why anyone would ever pay crowns for an unfurnished apartment in the first place. Sure, you could argue that in real money it costs less than $5, but why would you spend anything on them? Apartments don't even cost any gold to get unfurnished... So why even offer them for sale unfurnished in the crown store? Am I missing something?
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  • Velvelya
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    Too high...
    72$ is not that much better then 100$ for an unfurnished home that stores nothing.


    Just my opinion.
  • Eocosa
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    I personally don't feel they are TOO unreasonable. This comes from the fact that they are accessible via gold and crowns.

    As there are two means of getting any of these listed houses there has to be some gold to crown ratio even if it is wonky. Thus they WILL have to make it rather costly in crowns given how costly they are in gold. Yet, as you can get it either way I don't think it's too absurd as you can either gradually gather the gold and purchase it in game, or shell out the cash (~$40 when crowns are on sale for a manor), or even do what I am of using my ESO+ crowns I've gathered since housing was announced and maybe spending $20 or so to get a manor on release or waiting another month or two on ESO+.

    I am much more curious to see how they price crown store exclusive housing!

    Like all things though, for some it will not be worth it and they will not buy it, for others (like me) who spend a LOT of time on player housing in MMOs, this will provide for a LOT of gameplay crafting, gathering achievements, getting it set up just right, etc.
  • Tandor
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    Vudokan wrote: »
    Prices are OUTRAGEOUS for the larger homes, OMG. I would have seriously considered buying crowns to get a house if it meant reducing in-game grind, but there's no way they're going to convince me to pay more than 5k for a large house, MAYBE 7 or 8k for notable, at most.

    I've got to wonder what's up with ZOS when it comes to this type of thing. Crown store prices are getting more and more insane. They seem to rely rely on a few whales, but it seems they'd make more money with slightly more reasonable prices a few more players could afford.

    Oh well, they lose my crowns. I'm going straight in-game gold with all of this, for sure.

    Which is exactly the way it should work. We all have a choice as to whether we buy a house and if so which one, and how we fund it. You (presumably as a trader) have surplus gold and wouldn't dream of being in a position to spend crowns at that level, while I (as a subscriber) have surplus crowns and would't dream of being in a position to spend gold at that level. The point is that we can both afford to buy the house we want and can choose the purchasing option that suits us best.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    I voted other, as in extremely way to high for average player base.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Velvelya wrote: »
    72$ is not that much better then 100$ for an unfurnished home that stores nothing.


    Just my opinion.

    But what is a fair price with value? Keep in mind 72 is EVERYONE bought their crowns @ full retail. With folks stocking up during the sales, we only know the value index is between 72 and 45, it could be more in the 50s even.
    Edited by HeroOfNone on January 27, 2017 10:10PM
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