tri stat enchants

Syiccal · December 2016

are these worth using on armour or will I loose to much of my main resource

starkerealm · December 2016

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Syiccal · December 2016

I main a stamplar ww at min only use magika for rune focus and clense was just wondering if I would benifit from extra health and magika

paulsimonps · December 2016

Unless you are a tank I would not recommend it at all but if you are a tank I would recommend it wholeheartedly.

Reverb · December 2016

paulsimonps wrote: »

Unless you are a tank I would not recommend it at all but if you are a tank I would recommend it wholeheartedly.

Even on a tank, I've found it's only worth it if you're using them on all 8 pieces.

paulsimonps · December 2016

Reverb wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Unless you are a tank I would not recommend it at all but if you are a tank I would recommend it wholeheartedly.

Even on a tank, I've found it's only worth it if you're using them on all 8 pieces.

Which you have no reason not to do. Why wouldn't you? 8 pieces of tri glyphs and tri food and then just change attributes as you need is the best way of tanking. The overall total resources will get a huge boost.

Astanphaeus · December 2016

They are good in PvP, less so in PvE I believe.

idk · December 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

IronCrystal · December 2016

I use them on my Tava's/Dragonguard/BS tank in vet trials. I need stamina for blocking and a few of my skills but my self heals and resistance buff requires magicka.

paulsimonps · December 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

You are limiting yourself if you class yourself as magicka or stamina tank. Tanks need all 3 resources. I thought of myself as a stamina tank for a long time. But when I swapped over to 8 tri glyphs and tri food instead of having stam glyphs and stam HP food I was working way better. More chains, more talons, more igneous shields, and since more igneous shields more stamina and my sustainability became immensely better. If you go with Magicka or Stamina glyphs or even Health glyphs on your armor you are limiting yourself.

Bryanonymous · December 2016

As a magic DPS with everything allocated into magic, spell power, and spell crit, these enchants put me just over the 18k mark on health with purple food at the cost of some magicka, plus I get some extra stamina too. I feel that they are worth it because they have 50% more resource than other glyphs. Sometimes the extra resource is worth it. It's not like mages never use stamina. I keep dark conversion on my overload bar, which really comes in handy when I blow through my magicka pool during huge boss fights, and also use stamina to break free from those heavy cc mobs. It's worth it.

Iselin · December 2016

If the 3 stat numbers added up to the same total but they were bi stat health + "x" instead, I'd be all over them. As they are, they're situational. Yes you do get a better overall stat boost from using them but 1/3 of that boost is meaningless for most of us.

Julianos · December 2016

Syiccal wrote: »

are these worth using on armour or will I loose to much of my main resource

they are good on tanks i wouldnt recommend on dps they might usefull on hybrid pvp builds also

SolarCat02 · December 2016

Most effective on tanks, especially on tank builds that rely on frequently casting magicka abilities.

They are pretty much a hybrid build glyph. All tanks are hybrids, so always useful there. Other hybrid builds would also benefit of course... But non-tank hybrid builds aren't really viable for endgame content and the glyphs are somewhat rare and therefore pricy. So for tanks, or for fooling around if you don't mind spending the funds, in my opinion.

Birdovic · December 2016

Using tri-stat glyphs on all my armour pieces, on my mag sorc in pvp, works great.

WalksonGraves · December 2016

I honestly don't see the point unless you really use a ton of off main stat utility skills. If you really want tri stats use food, the benefits over single stat enchants are marginal at best and the glyphs are a pain to get. Personally I think it's always best to go reinforced as a tank.

idk · December 2016

paulsimonps wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

You are limiting yourself if you class yourself as magicka or stamina tank. Tanks need all 3 resources. I thought of myself as a stamina tank for a long time. But when I swapped over to 8 tri glyphs and tri food instead of having stam glyphs and stam HP food I was working way better. More chains, more talons, more igneous shields, and since more igneous shields more stamina and my sustainability became immensely better. If you go with Magicka or Stamina glyphs or even Health glyphs on your armor you are limiting yourself.

@paulsimonps

I think you may have misread what I posted or maybe splitting hairs a little to close to be worthwhile in the context of this thread or even replying to my post.

Maybe read again since I addressed your concern raised in what you quoted.

Thx, and enjoy the game.

paulsimonps · December 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I honestly don't see the point unless you really use a ton of off main stat utility skills. If you really want tri stats use food, the benefits over single stat enchants are marginal at best and the glyphs are a pain to get. Personally I think it's always best to go reinforced as a tank.

Resistance is the most overrated stat as a tank. There are far better ways of getting mitigation.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

You are limiting yourself if you class yourself as magicka or stamina tank. Tanks need all 3 resources. I thought of myself as a stamina tank for a long time. But when I swapped over to 8 tri glyphs and tri food instead of having stam glyphs and stam HP food I was working way better. More chains, more talons, more igneous shields, and since more igneous shields more stamina and my sustainability became immensely better. If you go with Magicka or Stamina glyphs or even Health glyphs on your armor you are limiting yourself.

@paulsimonps

I think you may have misread what I posted or maybe splitting hairs a little to close to be worthwhile in the context of this thread or even replying to my post.

Maybe read again since I addressed your concern raised in what you quoted.

Thx, and enjoy the game.

Just trying to say that tanks should not call themselves "Magicka Tank" or "Stamina Tank" its very limiting. I did the post describing my experience moving away from those labels. They are restricting and if you instead focus less on that label you can do more. Thou of course when it comes to tanking some think that simply holding block and having you team stay alive means that you are amazing but there is always room for improvement.

idk · December 2016

paulsimonps wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I honestly don't see the point unless you really use a ton of off main stat utility skills. If you really want tri stats use food, the benefits over single stat enchants are marginal at best and the glyphs are a pain to get. Personally I think it's always best to go reinforced as a tank.

Resistance is the most overrated stat as a tank. There are far better ways of getting mitigation.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

You are limiting yourself if you class yourself as magicka or stamina tank. Tanks need all 3 resources. I thought of myself as a stamina tank for a long time. But when I swapped over to 8 tri glyphs and tri food instead of having stam glyphs and stam HP food I was working way better. More chains, more talons, more igneous shields, and since more igneous shields more stamina and my sustainability became immensely better. If you go with Magicka or Stamina glyphs or even Health glyphs on your armor you are limiting yourself.

@paulsimonps

I think you may have misread what I posted or maybe splitting hairs a little to close to be worthwhile in the context of this thread or even replying to my post.

Maybe read again since I addressed your concern raised in what you quoted.

Thx, and enjoy the game.

Just trying to say that tanks should not call themselves "Magicka Tank" or "Stamina Tank" its very limiting. I did the post describing my experience moving away from those labels. They are restricting and if you instead focus less on that label you can do more. Thou of course when it comes to tanking some think that simply holding block and having you team stay alive means that you are amazing but there is always room for improvement.

But there are only 4 types of tanks. Health (high health), Stam, Magika, and Hybrid.

It is in how they build but also changes how they tank. In each of the builds they should not have much issue with using chains and igneous for DKs since most tanks I know use the Atro. Granted, many good tanks that are not DKs and with some the choice is very different.

Believe me, have seen all types tank vet raids and they do just fine.

Nifty2g · December 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I honestly don't see the point unless you really use a ton of off main stat utility skills. If you really want tri stats use food, the benefits over single stat enchants are marginal at best and the glyphs are a pain to get. Personally I think it's always best to go reinforced as a tank.

Resistance is the most overrated stat as a tank. There are far better ways of getting mitigation.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

If you're running a hybrid build, and not using Pelinal, then they're better than mixing all three enchants on your gear.

If you're running trials or vet dungeons you're probably not running a hybrid build. It might be possible to make a good hybrid build, but I'm not aware of anyone succeeding with the current state of the game.

If you have a "main resource," at all, then no, pass on these. If you don't... then go wild.

Actually, these might also be very good for tanks. I don't run any at endgame, so I'm not used to thinking about those, but it's worth sticking out there as a possibility.

Basically this.

Tanking with a magika tank or a stam tank that uses a lot of magika they can be nice, especially a few more chain pulls. Certainly not required.

Magika tank gets more stamina which can be nice.

You are limiting yourself if you class yourself as magicka or stamina tank. Tanks need all 3 resources. I thought of myself as a stamina tank for a long time. But when I swapped over to 8 tri glyphs and tri food instead of having stam glyphs and stam HP food I was working way better. More chains, more talons, more igneous shields, and since more igneous shields more stamina and my sustainability became immensely better. If you go with Magicka or Stamina glyphs or even Health glyphs on your armor you are limiting yourself.

@paulsimonps

I think you may have misread what I posted or maybe splitting hairs a little to close to be worthwhile in the context of this thread or even replying to my post.

Maybe read again since I addressed your concern raised in what you quoted.

Thx, and enjoy the game.

Just trying to say that tanks should not call themselves "Magicka Tank" or "Stamina Tank" its very limiting. I did the post describing my experience moving away from those labels. They are restricting and if you instead focus less on that label you can do more. Thou of course when it comes to tanking some think that simply holding block and having you team stay alive means that you are amazing but there is always room for improvement.

But there are only 4 types of tanks. Health (high health), Stam, Magika, and Hybrid.

It is in how they build but also changes how they tank. In each of the builds they should not have much issue with using chains and igneous for DKs since most tanks I know use the Atro. Granted, many good tanks that are not DKs and with some the choice is very different.

Believe me, have seen all types tank vet raids and they do just fine.

Agreed with @paulsimonps anyone who labels themselves as Magicka or Stamina tank is just doing it wrong. Tristat glyphs are amazing. I was playing around with attributes and got something like this the other day. Don't know if I want to keep these but damn the chains and igneous are amazing.

I really dislike people who say they either magicka or stamina tank lol, gets me triggered

Brutusmax1mus · December 2016

I use them in PvP, between all 8 and heavy armor I've never had an issue cc breaking on any of my magicka characters

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · December 2016

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Bobby_V_Rockit · December 2016

I use one on an infused helm, I wouldnt change it for my main resource as the extra 500 health and magicka give me juuuust enough to get to 18.5k health