Tell us when Crown Crates are being released (Announced)

Mic1007 · November 2016

There's maintenance next Thursday instead of Monday. Thursday is usually Crown Store update day. Adding 2 and 2 together equals bad news.

Cazzy · November 2016

Mic1007 wrote: »

There's maintenance next Thursday instead of Monday. Thursday is usually Crown Store update day. Adding 2 and 2 together equals bad news.

Oh really? Well if that's the case they've really made me quite mad. I was hoping for details to be released ahead of time and more communication about any "changes" they made.

Their behaviour is totally disrespectful and ungrateful towards their community.

elvenmad · November 2016

Mic1007 wrote: »

There's maintenance next Thursday instead of Monday. Thursday is usually Crown Store update day. Adding 2 and 2 together equals bad news.

Funny..was my first thought after seeing the maintenance schedule.. right after a Crown sale too

vyndral13preub18_ESO · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

There's maintenance next Thursday instead of Monday. Thursday is usually Crown Store update day. Adding 2 and 2 together equals bad news.

Oh really? Well if that's the case they've really made me quite mad. I was hoping for details to be released ahead of time and more communication about any "changes" they made.

Their behaviour is totally disrespectful and ungrateful towards their community.

Well if it is anything like the ptr when the crates were there, they wont even be able to tell you what should or shouldnt be in the crate. What is a crate exclusive or isnt.

So maybe they would communicate, if they actually had any idea what was what.

kevlarto_ESO · November 2016

I am pretty sure they will raise there ugly heads at some point, it is money and these crazy things make big money on other games, they will not pass up another avenue for revenue, but after testing them on the pts, I really don't see anything to worry about all I got was crap.

Guess time will tell.

L2Pissue · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

Cazzy · November 2016

L2Pissue wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

Hi I'm Cazzy

We've never spoken before and I'm sure you have your resources for knowing enough about me to predict how I will act - but perhaps we could discuss this topic as two mature adults rather than making assumptions about one another?

I'll understand if you have a busy evening though. If so, thank you for the interest in my thread

Abeille · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

L2Pissue wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

Hi I'm Cazzy We've never spoken before and I'm sure you have your resources for knowing enough about me to predict how I will act - but perhaps we could discuss this topic as two mature adults rather than making assumptions about one another?

I'll understand if you have a busy evening though. If so, thank you for the interest in my thread

Shhh...

Just remind him of that post of his in one month

Cazzy · November 2016

Abeille wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

L2Pissue wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

Hi I'm Cazzy We've never spoken before and I'm sure you have your resources for knowing enough about me to predict how I will act - but perhaps we could discuss this topic as two mature adults rather than making assumptions about one another?

I'll understand if you have a busy evening though. If so, thank you for the interest in my thread

Shhh...

Just remind him of that post of his in one month

Oh I will

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Cazzy · November 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Yeah I'm not touching ESO until I know everything I need to about the crates. Drop rates, what they are putting in them, how to "refund" items for gems, how many gems are given - if everything is reasonable then I'll return and just not buy them. If, however, they are as bad as they apparently were on the PTS then I won't be back. Not for a while anyway

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Yeah I'm not touching ESO until I know everything I need to about the crates. Drop rates, what they are putting in them, how to "refund" items for gems, how many gems are given - if everything is reasonable then I'll return and just not buy them. If, however, they are as bad as they apparently were on the PTS then I won't be back. Not for a while anyway

Good luck where ever you end up going Cazzy . I doubt seriously they will change their minds or make any major adjustment to the crown gem ratios per refund because profits are bottom line here . You are making a wise decision given your background and I admire your honesty and drive to bettering yourself . Very inspirational .

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2016

Siriana_IthilRakka wrote: »

Here's a crazy idea? Don't buy them if you don't want them? People who do have no issues with the idea, people who don't, need never think about it. There's nothing in them that gives anyone an advantage, have a little impulse control and they're fine. Nothing is going to "pop up" and force you to spend all your money.

The point is that those who will buy arent here to complain about it. Theyll buy into it and just show off their terrible gambling addiction to others in game via their mounts and costumes. But we've been over this whole tiresome argument with your type too many times. Not buying into it is not going to solve the issue that these things WILL IMPACT CONTENT CREATION. They will focus more and more on what goes into the Crates and less and less on new zones like Wrothgar and Hews Bane. So please, if you have nothing to actually add except the tired and useless "DONT BUY IT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT" arguement.

Cazzy · November 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Yeah I'm not touching ESO until I know everything I need to about the crates. Drop rates, what they are putting in them, how to "refund" items for gems, how many gems are given - if everything is reasonable then I'll return and just not buy them. If, however, they are as bad as they apparently were on the PTS then I won't be back. Not for a while anyway

Good luck where ever you end up going Cazzy . I doubt seriously they will change their minds or make any major adjustment to the crown gem ratios per refund because profits are bottom line here . You are making a wise decision given your background and I admire your honesty and drive to bettering yourself . Very inspirational .

Aww thank you

That actually makes me feel better about the whole thing.

My biggest problem will be how to keep in touch with people on here without discussing ESO :I May have to find other ways to keep in touch.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Yeah I'm not touching ESO until I know everything I need to about the crates. Drop rates, what they are putting in them, how to "refund" items for gems, how many gems are given - if everything is reasonable then I'll return and just not buy them. If, however, they are as bad as they apparently were on the PTS then I won't be back. Not for a while anyway

Good luck where ever you end up going Cazzy . I doubt seriously they will change their minds or make any major adjustment to the crown gem ratios per refund because profits are bottom line here . You are making a wise decision given your background and I admire your honesty and drive to bettering yourself . Very inspirational .

Aww thank you That actually makes me feel better about the whole thing.

My biggest problem will be how to keep in touch with people on here without discussing ESO :I May have to find other ways to keep in touch.

Dont do it! We are all a bunch of bitter wankers!

Recremen · November 2016

Siriana_IthilRakka wrote: »

Here's a crazy idea? Don't buy them if you don't want them? People who do have no issues with the idea, people who don't, need never think about it. There's nothing in them that gives anyone an advantage, have a little impulse control and they're fine. Nothing is going to "pop up" and force you to spend all your money.

@Siriana_IthilRakka

You misunderstand, the gambling boxes are preventing me from spending money on the game, and I don't like it. I've been a huge fan of the costumes and mounts they've come out with, bought loads of them, and even written some stories and such based on them, paired with screenshots to show them off. Unfortunately, they're planning on putting exclusive items in the gambling boxes, which means a whole class of items I literally can't buy. You see, if you actually do the math, it is not possible to guarantee that you'll actually get whatever rare mount or costume you're going for, even if you had infinite money.

If the items were offered on the Crown Store proper then it would be another story, even if they were very pricy. You'd be able to look at it, say "oh heck yeah that's right in my spending range" or "Oh heeell no I'm peacing out", like a normal customer. With gambling boxes, though, you can never make a decision for how much you'd be willing to spend on it. You can only make a decision for how much you'll risk spending on it, with the extremely likely possibility that you'll walk away having spent money and gotten nothing you wanted. What the heck kind of product is that? It's rubbish.

The game itself might be all rainbows and butterflies, but if the things we're actually able to spend money on aren't even realistically acquirable. then how much faith are we supposed to have in the game's longevity? They're literally resorting to turning themselves into a casino, and it does not send a positive message to informed consumers. Moreover, it is a direct contradiction to what the playerbase actually wants in the product, minus a few trolls and people willing to spend money just to be contrarian. If they just put the items for sale in the Crown Store then it's a guarantee that loads of people will buy it, but they'd rather run the risk of very few people buying it because maybe, just maybe, a few people will dump their life savings into it (and, again, still probably not even get what they were going for).

Siriana_IthilRakka · November 2016

If you do the math, it makes enormous sense for ZoS to put these rare items into RNG boxes. Why wouldn't they? Some people will boycott it, ok fine. Many more people will be perfectly happy to drop money on crates, just like many people are happily spending money on Overwatch's loot boxes. Especially if you get some reward for duplicate items that let you eventually just buy the thing you want to get in the crate drop anyway.

You're all talking like we will only ever be able to buy crown crates and RNG everything from the crown store from now on. This isn't the case. There will still be a crown store with things to spend your money on, and a supplemental shop using the gems that drop from crate duplicates. From what I understand, the things that are going into crown crates are things like the limited edition mounts that are available for a weekend, and a small chance in a crown crate.

Again, you don't need any of it.

Rohamad_Ali · November 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

prettynink wrote: »

Who's ducking out? Are you ducking out? The 1st of Dec huh, what leads you to think that?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Hopefully never ever but if you're looking to duck out before , I think it's around the 1st of December .

Cazzy does not want to be here for it . Her thread , basic post goes to the op . Standard forums reply etiquette .

Yeah I'm not touching ESO until I know everything I need to about the crates. Drop rates, what they are putting in them, how to "refund" items for gems, how many gems are given - if everything is reasonable then I'll return and just not buy them. If, however, they are as bad as they apparently were on the PTS then I won't be back. Not for a while anyway

Good luck where ever you end up going Cazzy . I doubt seriously they will change their minds or make any major adjustment to the crown gem ratios per refund because profits are bottom line here . You are making a wise decision given your background and I admire your honesty and drive to bettering yourself . Very inspirational .

Aww thank you That actually makes me feel better about the whole thing.

My biggest problem will be how to keep in touch with people on here without discussing ESO :I May have to find other ways to keep in touch.

This is my Five Thousandth comment , right here , right now and I'm pretty sure two things are certain . I can always be reached right here and two , ... I post way too much .

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Recremen · November 2016

Siriana_IthilRakka wrote: »

If you do the math, it makes enormous sense for ZoS to put these rare items into RNG boxes. Why wouldn't they? Some people will boycott it, ok fine. Many more people will be perfectly happy to drop money on crates, just like many people are happily spending money on Overwatch's loot boxes. Especially if you get some reward for duplicate items that let you eventually just buy the thing you want to get in the crate drop anyway.

You're all talking like we will only ever be able to buy crown crates and RNG everything from the crown store from now on. This isn't the case. There will still be a crown store with things to spend your money on, and a supplemental shop using the gems that drop from crate duplicates. From what I understand, the things that are going into crown crates are things like the limited edition mounts that are available for a weekend, and a small chance in a crown crate.

Again, you don't need any of it.

@Siriana_IthilRakka

Actually, we can't do the math, as we have no data regarding player interest in gambling versus player in buying items normally. Unless you have a treasure trove of this data lying around, you're talking out your butt. It's just as valid for me to assert that "sure, some people won't be able to gamble if they don't bring in gambling boxes, but more people would be willing to buy it outright from the store so they'll make tons of money that way."

And you do not understand what these gambling boxes are. If it were just "limited time" items that were up for a weekend and then go in the shop, that'd be slightly less awful, but it's not just that. It's also a whole class of exclusive mounts and other cosmetics that won't be available for purchase ever. It is also wrong to say that not needing something somehow invalidates the argument that things should be available for normal purchase. We're talking about the customer/service provider relationship here, and it is perfectly valid to push back on practices that are heinous or out of touch with the previous business relationship.

Elsonso · November 2016

Mic1007 wrote: »

There's maintenance next Thursday instead of Monday. Thursday is usually Crown Store update day. Adding 2 and 2 together equals bad news.

Yeah, can't have anything to do with some major holiday that has caused patch testing to be delayed. But, who knows, maybe you are right.

elvenmad · November 2016

Siriana_IthilRakka wrote: »

If you do the math, it makes enormous sense for ZoS to put these rare items into RNG boxes. Why wouldn't they? Some people will boycott it, ok fine. Many more people will be perfectly happy to drop money on crates, just like many people are happily spending money on Overwatch's loot boxes. Especially if you get some reward for duplicate items that let you eventually just buy the thing you want to get in the crate drop anyway.

You're all talking like we will only ever be able to buy crown crates and RNG everything from the crown store from now on. This isn't the case. There will still be a crown store with things to spend your money on, and a supplemental shop using the gems that drop from crate duplicates. From what I understand, the things that are going into crown crates are things like the limited edition mounts that are available for a weekend, and a small chance in a crown crate.

Again, you don't need any of it.

Your right, but you're not looking at the big picture and obviously have not experienced these in other games, were they clearly stated at the beginning it would only be cosmetic items and would never contain anything that would give any kind of advantage or boost in progress. Anyone who played Neverwinter from launch will know how that turned out, oh also Tera...Archeage.........Blade & soul................yeah the list can go on, because they have all done the exact same thing, released the very same statements, promised the community this and that and have all eventually done the opposite.

This is why there is huge community uproar concerning these cash shop boxes, we have all seen them before, we have all heard the very same publishers promises before and we have all heard the White knights saying maybe it will be different here, Well. maybe it could be, but at the end of the day ZoS is just another business here with one goal, just like all the other publishers..........to make money.......so the question should be, why should they be different ?

Oh and just to add they have already stated the Crates will contain Crate exclusive items, so thats items that can not be obtained from anywhere else, so the ONLY way to obtain them is to gamble.

Valethar · November 2016

The BOHICA will be 'Soon™'.

BlanketFort · November 2016

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

EDIT: I've come to realise crown crates for what they are: an abomination in MMOs, and games in general. I take back everything I said, before the edit. This is exploitative business practice and only serves to benefit ZOS. It is a taint in the franchise, and gaming as a whole.

Alucardo · November 2016

L2Pissue wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

And I guarantee a month from now you'll be deep sea diving in search of your manhood to try and get it reattached.

Cazzy · November 2016

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

Please, please, please read the posts in this thread - and look up every other thread about the crates. This has been answered many times.

Cazzy · November 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

L2Pissue wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Tell us when Crown Crates are being released

(For the record: I'd like them never to happen. I just cannot stand the anxious feeling of not knowing when to expect them.)

LEL
i'll cut my weener and drop it in the sea if you wont buy 100 crates 1 month after crates release

And I guarantee a month from now you'll be deep sea diving in search of your manhood to try and get it reattached.

xD

Waffennacht · November 2016

I thought you quit? Are you like gonna play up to the very moment before release than gonna throw the disk out the window? Are you hoping that they don't get dropped?

I keep thinking the phrase from my professional time at poker, "it's only an addiction if you lose."

Cazzy · November 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

I thought you quit? Are you like gonna play up to the very moment before release than gonna throw the disk out the window? Are you hoping that they don't get dropped?

I keep thinking the phrase from my professional time at poker, "it's only an addiction if you lose."

Who am I justifying myself to?

Recremen · November 2016

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

While it's fine that you're not personally bothered by the exclusive cosmetics, it is very clearly already an issue for those of us who value fair access to the cosmetics being produced.

BuddyAces · November 2016

Absolutely hilarious that people can still think these things are good for the game. Any money made from these stupid ass items will not go back into the game. You will not see new devs being hired. You will not see more content being made, in fact you will be seeing less content being made as more work goes into these stupid ass crates. You think class/item balance is bad now? Lack of content? Wait till the devs are suddenly tasked with putting more *** into crates and trying to juggle all of that. Which one do you think is going to take priority?

The people who are against these things are for the longevity of the game. These things are a fast track to turning a game into a complete *** hole as has happened to EVERY SINGLE OTHER GAME that adds these in. You magically think that this will be the one game that won't be like the rest? HAHAHA.

Look, I get it. This is your first MMO. You're excited to gamble to get these new shiny things. Hell, I use to buy them in other games until I realized that the money I (and everyone else) was spending on them was not going back into the game and the game got worse and worse because of these dumb ass things.

Yall can post about how you can't wait for these crates and how we're stupid because we're whining about them. Yall can argue with us but the fact of the matter is that we've been there and seen first hand what happens when a game goes this route. Every single bad thing that ANYONE has posted on these here forums about these crates are FACT. Go back and look through all the crown crate threads. Every single person that is warning people about these things are telling the truth.