Favorite magblade setup?

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

Stygian is a nb set, otherwise it's a waste for just openers. You could also argue clouding swarm for all classes which on my Khajiit his harder than eye of storm.

Stygian is great paired with la and ha, ha is really specific on the sets that work with Stygian.

DW is great with Skoria if you have axe and sword as that's an easy for to proc Skoria. I've migrated away from dw for awhile now though because I love doing big damage while weaving and being able to not have to worry about gap closing. It also makes aforementioned la work better imho

Lexxypwns · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

wait wait, how can you combine two pieces of two monster sets, when monster sets come only in helm or shoulders? or am I missing something here ?

I saw lately a death recap in cyro, when I died and there were two monster sets hitting me, so I was wondering, how can one person have 2 monster sets active with the 2nd bonus? So I thought that it was from two people, each of them wearing 2 pieces of a monster set..

oh and rattlecage, I am farming Vaults of Madness now for this set and also Crypt of Hearts for Lich set, also a nice one, for my magblade. But Rattle, Surge, 2 monster set sound devastating !!

I gotta try that out :smiley

oh and that surge, if that would be an aoe, not single target, wow

Rattlecage is seriously bad for all builds, its not enough damage to be worth using, even with the permanent sorcery.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

Yeah rattle is only valuable off the jump, then you have sap essence or a potion. At least Dreugh King Slayer, with expedition, makes a fun farming set.

altemriel · November 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

Stoopid_Nwah · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

altemriel · November 2016

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

exeeter702 · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

Sorry but I simply can't see how building toward's an entire 5 piece bonus when you can achieve the same benefit from a potion as being worth the item slots.

Outside of ganking you have better options for the buff so the potion cd and duration is a non issue.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

exeeter702 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

Sorry but I simply can't see how building toward's an entire 5 piece bonus when you can achieve the same benefit from a potion as being worth the item slots.

Outside of ganking you have better options for the buff so the potion cd and duration is a non issue.

With proper passive, you get around 49 seconds with a 45 seconds cool down.

exeeter702 · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

Sorry but I simply can't see how building toward's an entire 5 piece bonus when you can achieve the same benefit from a potion as being worth the item slots.

Outside of ganking you have better options for the buff so the potion cd and duration is a non issue.

With proper passive, you get around 49 seconds with a 45 seconds cool down.

I know this.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

exeeter702 wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

Sorry but I simply can't see how building toward's an entire 5 piece bonus when you can achieve the same benefit from a potion as being worth the item slots.

Outside of ganking you have better options for the buff so the potion cd and duration is a non issue.

With proper passive, you get around 49 seconds with a 45 seconds cool down.

I know this.

I don't think they do our they wouldn't trade a 5pc for something that is the exact same build and function and can be kept up perpetually.

DPG76 · November 2016

i've recently had my hands on 5 tbs, 3 willpower and 2 grothdar wich isn't bad but i aim to get my second way of martial knowledge staff to wear 4 pieces of it instead of willpower

also if i'd wear a 5/5/ 1 type build i'd rather take Iceheart 1pc than Kena 1 pc for the crit

exeeter702 · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me

or elegance+rattlecage would be nice too, not so much magicka as with necropotence, but the 5th bonuses stack, right?

They do stack yes, and if you plan on using elegance as a non-gank build I would recommend using a lightning staff. Actually I'd recommend a lightning staff even if you don't use elegance, just because of the current meta in Cyrodiil.

By all means test out rattlecage, but as many have warned, it really is not worth it. Using structured entropy gives the same buff, healing, a dot (if you use skoria), and +5% max health on the bar it's on. Sap essence also would give the same buff and is a decent aoe with healing for you and your group members.

yes I know that sorcery is buffed with these skills, but while I used to use structured entrophy as an opener, because of its large range, sap essence is nice, but very short range. I can swap it for wall of elements and crippling grasp or fear

Sorry but I simply can't see how building toward's an entire 5 piece bonus when you can achieve the same benefit from a potion as being worth the item slots.

Outside of ganking you have better options for the buff so the potion cd and duration is a non issue.

With proper passive, you get around 49 seconds with a 45 seconds cool down.

I know this.

I don't think they do our they wouldn't trade a 5pc for something that is the exact same build and function and can be kept up perpetually.

Yep lol

Tryxus · November 2016

So I decided to update my MagBlade setup after seeing several ppl here (and on Youtube) running Necropotence. And after getting that lucky drop from a friend in vDSA I went ahead and crafted me some new gear.

Right now, I'm running 5x Necropotence and 5x Seducer with a vDSA Ice Staff Sharpened and a vMSA Resto Staff Defending. Stats unbuffed:

With Blue Food and a Shade out:

It's a lot of fun to play with: great damage, incredible sustain, plenty of roots and snares, strong shields and more

And judging by the reactions I got from a few Sorcs I duelled, it's apparently very annoying to fight against

(yes, I had one cussing at me after he forfeited, so I'm happy)

brandonv516 · November 2016

Currently changed my magblade to 5 martial knowledge (sharp destro on front bar), 5 lich (defend resto on back bar), 2 infernal guardian. All light armor for a strong shield.

Large magicka pool, excellent magicka recovery, very good damage.

I seem to always go back to the lich set because it benefits greatly by being able to proc it just by switching to the second bar (resto in my case).

This build may not be meta for PvE but it does perform well with some skill changes. It shines in PvP.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

Currently changed my magblade to 5 martial knowledge (sharp destro on front bar), 5 lich (defend resto on back bar), 2 infernal guardian. All light armor for a strong shield.

Large magicka pool, excellent magicka recovery, very good damage.

I seem to always go back to the lich set because it benefits greatly by being able to proc it just by switching to the second bar (resto in my case).

This build may not be meta for PvE but it does perform well with some skill changes. It shines in PvP.

could you explain the mechanic

brandonv516 · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

Currently changed my magblade to 5 martial knowledge (sharp destro on front bar), 5 lich (defend resto on back bar), 2 infernal guardian. All light armor for a strong shield.

Large magicka pool, excellent magicka recovery, very good damage.

I seem to always go back to the lich set because it benefits greatly by being able to proc it just by switching to the second bar (resto in my case).

This build may not be meta for PvE but it does perform well with some skill changes. It shines in PvP.

could you explain the mechanic

You use 4 of one set and 4 of lich set for chest, hands, waist, legs, feet, and 3 jewelry (8 pieces). Destro weapon for first set and resto weapon for lich set. Monster set is open for your choosing.

The idea is that when you get low on magicka, you simply switch bars to proc the insane magicka regen from the lich set.

You can also switch lich set for the Warlock set but that only adds a set amount of magicka which I feel isn't as beneficial.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

Ok so you're primarily going max magicka and sustain with your approach then?

Nutshotz · November 2016

Ok everyone here has excellent build ideas. Whether it be for gank burst builds, sustain builds or balanced builds. I for one have these that I run.

5 clever/5 spinner/1 Kena. Stats are - 41k MM , 2.6k SD , 1.5k MR.

5 spinners/5 necropotence/1 Kena- 49k MM , 1.8 k SD, 1.7k MR

5 lich/5 necropotence/1 Kena- 40k MM, 1.6k SD, 1.7k MR.

As of right now the clever comes out on top, but I'm not used to playing with so low of SD and shades. 7 months of being away.

Oh and the builds are either dw/destro or destro/resto.

What I find very difficult is the lack of dmg. Even in 5L,1M,1H. For max resources.

It's the dmg out put. I know I'm comparing mag vs stam and I shouldn't but still. Magblade are gimped right now in my perspective.

If anyone wants to help me reconfigure my build or play style I'm all ears. Whisper me in game or send me mail in game.

I have an AD magblade and EP magblade.

Nutshotz AD
Nutshots EP

PC NA

Artis · November 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

5 Lich(jewels, 1 armor, defending resto) 5 Necropotence (4 armor, destro) 1 Grothdarr

Infinite sustain, huge shields, solid damage from the enormous magika pool. You can run 1 kena instead of 1 grothdarr, but since we're stacking magika with this setup I decided to go all in on that and squeeze every ounce of shield that I can.

Edit: Spinners is a really solid set as well if you can manage your shields well it can replace necro, but you'll lack some damage against sorcs and other shield users. Pirate king 2 piece is also dope AF

Won't you lose necropotence bonus when you swap to resto?

code65536 wrote: »

[*]Main account, PvE: 5xTBS + 5x Infallible or 5x Scathing with dual-destro

It is because you don't want to farm monster sets or will such setup be simply better? I was always wondering how would 5+5+vma weapon work, but never got all gear.

code65536 · November 2016

Artis wrote: »

It is because you don't want to farm monster sets or will such setup be simply better? I was always wondering how would 5+5+vma weapon work, but never got all gear.

That was my old setup. I've since migrated to Grothdarr, which I really like. It does force me into melee, which is one reason it took me so long to adopt it--I just instinctively want to range on a magblade, and breaking that habit took a bit of doing.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

It is because you don't want to farm monster sets or will such setup be simply better? I was always wondering how would 5+5+vma weapon work, but never got all gear.

That was my old setup. I've since migrated to Grothdarr, which I really like. It does force me into melee, which is one reason it took me so long to adopt it--I just instinctively want to range on a magblade, and breaking that habit took a bit of doing.

I'm still farming for sharpened Stygian swords and I'm switching out spinners for HA julianos.