Favorite magblade setup?

code65536 · November 2016

Main account, PvE: 5xTBS + 5x Infallible or 5x Scathing with dual-destro
Main account, PvP: 5x Winterborn + 2x Iceheart + 3x Willpower with destro/dual-wield or destro/resto
Alt account, PvE: 5x Kag + 5x Destruction Mastery with dual-destro (build guide in the link; I'm particularly fond of this build because of how inexpensive yet effective it is)

altemriel · November 2016

AzuraKin wrote: »

i just gotta put out there, rattlecage isnt a good set. if it shared the buff with team, be one thing but sap essence and braain fart the mages dot both give the buff. they are not hard to manage the buff uptime, and both do good things, sap essence is like the ultimate aoe for mageblades and the mage ability (brain farting still) is really good dot (and the empower from using it is best time to use ultimate and/or cripple).

yes, I read about this.

altemriel · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

Main account, PvE: 5xTBS + 5x Infallible or 5x Scathing with dual-destro

Main account, PvP: 5x Winterborn + 2x Iceheart + 3x Willpower with destro and dual-wield

Alt account, PvE: 5x Kag + 5x Destruction Mastery with dual-destro (build guide in the link; I'm particularly fond of this build because of how inexpensive yet effective it is)

very nice, thanx for sharing

I have a question about that one with Destruction Mastery - how is your health sustainability when using destro/destro, instead of using destro/restro?

code65536 · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

I have a question about that one with Destruction Mastery - how is your health sustainability when using destro/destro, instead of using destro/restro?

No problems whatsoever. You have more than enough self-heals with Funnel and Sap, and if you need to shield, use Harness Magicka. Even in vMA, I don't use a resto as a magblade.

Knootewoot · November 2016

code65536 wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

I have a question about that one with Destruction Mastery - how is your health sustainability when using destro/destro, instead of using destro/restro?

No problems whatsoever. You have more than enough self-heals with Funnel and Sap, and if you need to shield, use Harness Magicka. Even in vMA, I don't use a resto as a magblade.

Indeed. I find hardened ward not only unreliable, but in the time I switched to resto staff I could have already spammed harness magicka and a few swallow souls which heal pretty quick.

Im my current setup (preparing for 1st time vMA and testing on overland bosses) I use dualwield+destroy. Work pretty good so far.

Jim_Pipp · November 2016

Some friends recently returned to the game and are at low-CP so I did a cheap reroll on my magblade to provide support in PVE groups, but the things that make it good for the group make it really good for solo-pve including maelstrom. Weapon swapping changes the build from tanky to DPS.

3 Willpower Jewellery (robust traits because this needed to be a cheap build)
5 Armour master (3 armour, 2 x weapons - mainly S +B for the taunt and classic sap-tanking while blocking, sometimes dual wield for more oomph)
5 Jullianos (4 armour, 1 staff, mainly destro, but sometimes resto for more healing).

With armour master, shadow barrier and mirage up, I buff myself to over 33,000 resistance (spell and physical) on a light armour character who can cast good damage shields and almost every attack heals me (and the group).

FrostFallFox · November 2016

Twice-Born Star because 1 crit Mundas is edgy but 2 is twice as edgy. Kena because "the Elder Scroll is mine!"

Willpower because I'm always in control. And my Maelstrom Honey Dipper staff of freezing.

altemriel · November 2016

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Some friends recently returned to the game and are at low-CP so I did a cheap reroll on my magblade to provide support in PVE groups, but the things that make it good for the group make it really good for solo-pve including maelstrom. Weapon swapping changes the build from tanky to DPS.

3 Willpower Jewellery (robust traits because this needed to be a cheap build)
5 Armour master (3 armour, 2 x weapons - mainly S +B for the taunt and classic sap-tanking while blocking, sometimes dual wield for more oomph)
5 Jullianos (4 armour, 1 staff, mainly destro, but sometimes resto for more healing).

With armour master, shadow barrier and mirage up, I buff myself to over 33,000 resistance (spell and physical) on a light armour character who can cast good damage shields and almost every attack heals me (and the group).

what is your average dps with this setup?

Tryxus · November 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

5 Lich(jewels, 1 armor, defending resto) 5 Necropotence (4 armor, destro) 1 Grothdarr

Infinite sustain, huge shields, solid damage from the enormous magika pool. You can run 1 kena instead of 1 grothdarr, but since we're stacking magika with this setup I decided to go all in on that and squeeze every ounce of shield that I can.

Edit: Spinners is a really solid set as well if you can manage your shields well it can replace necro, but you'll lack some damage against sorcs and other shield users. Pirate king 2 piece is also dope AF

But you'll need to spam shades in order to get that 5pc bonus.

That's why Necropotence is perfect, you're already spamming Shades anyway!

So I was thinking of running Necropotence and mix it up with Spinners (kinda like Blobs build) but I prefer to run a Destro/Resto build instead

Should I run 5x Spinner 5x Necro and 1x Grothdarr then?

Or 5x Necro with 5x Seducer in case the sustain is terrible with the above. Would that work too? (like Lexxy but Seducer instead of Lich)

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

AzuraKin · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

while yes it could be possible, most abilities like pets respond to changes in your stats, for example restoration staff's mutagen will buff up if you were to swap to a dw bar with higher spell power after its cast.

altemriel · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

depends on your setup, if you would go 5 necropotence armor, then no, you can swap bars and all is ok.

SublimeSparo · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

I'm loving Stygian with destro staff. One if the most fun setups I've done in awhile. Anyone else have a magblade setup they live that's with trying?

Stygian + VD + 2x Kena + proxi

I guess instead of Stygian, Rattlecage would be even stronger for this setup:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Rattlecage+Set

I guess so too. I had a complete set of (prosperous and training) rattlecage. I might try to get 3 jewels so I only have to wear 2 heavy pieces of armor. Sadly I hardly find grind groups for the vaults of madness.

token systemmmmm

hmm, I usually que in group finder tool - works well, sometimes it is 30 minutes, sometimes 15, I already got some divines and impen pieces and jewelry in "healthy" trait, I read on the forums someone confirming, that there is also unique jewelry pieces with "arcane" trait. I have no weapons so far.

Fitst boss drops the arcane jewellery, can't remember if it's a ring or necklace

Junipus · November 2016

Enslaved wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

I'm loving Stygian with destro staff. One if the most fun setups I've done in awhile. Anyone else have a magblade setup they live that's with trying?

Stygian + VD + 2x Kena + proxi

Switch VD with Martial Knowledge and your bombing will be even stronger. If you duo it then the other guy can run VD, but the 10% extra damage from MK should be enough so you don't need VD.

Junipus · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

Unless they changed it from last time I used it, you only need to cast shades once but you then need to switch the bar to get the buff so always put the shade on your off bar (for magblade at least).

Hopefully they fixed it so it procs as soon as the shade is cast, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

If I remember correctly pets are mostly buffed by magicka, so wouldn't switching to a dw bar not offset the set bonus?

altemriel · November 2016

Junipus wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

Unless they changed it from last time I used it, you only need to cast shades once but you then need to switch the bar to get the buff so always put the shade on your off bar (for magblade at least).

Hopefully they fixed it so it procs as soon as the shade is cast, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

it does proc right when you cast it, I tested it out yesterday

Unsent.Soul · November 2016

I've been in love with my current setup. The damage numbers I'm seeing make me smile.

2x Nerien'eth (gotta be that guy) hvy helm, med shoulders
5x TBS all body all light
3x willpower jewelry
2x torugs swords
1x random destro (no MA yet)

All gold with max magicka enchants.

Just killing random trash last night my swallow soul was hitting 17.9k crits consistantly. Sap essance was hitting for 14.5k crits. Meteor drops pretty frequently for 40k+ initial impact.

Ive moved on to farming other sets for other characters and am content with my magblades current setup.

All pre 1T but it works wonderfully.

Lexxypwns · November 2016

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

5 Lich(jewels, 1 armor, defending resto) 5 Necropotence (4 armor, destro) 1 Grothdarr

Infinite sustain, huge shields, solid damage from the enormous magika pool. You can run 1 kena instead of 1 grothdarr, but since we're stacking magika with this setup I decided to go all in on that and squeeze every ounce of shield that I can.

Edit: Spinners is a really solid set as well if you can manage your shields well it can replace necro, but you'll lack some damage against sorcs and other shield users. Pirate king 2 piece is also dope AF

But you'll need to spam shades in order to get that 5pc bonus.

Or just every twenty seconds...unless that constitutes spamming to you.

Right? I'll use soul harvest as often as shades

No kidding...imo necropotence is mandatory (to be competitive) for magblades in pvp with the exceptions being tanks and gankers.

Yeah, I really don't know how else you get dampen big enough to realistically protect healing ward without making far too many other sacrifices. I suppose you could run 5 lich 2 pirate king 4 X and rely on pirate king procs to effectively increase the size of your shield, but you'd have trouble finding enough damage that way

I mean there's always cloak okay but sarcasm aside, yes I agree, dampen isn't big enough without that 50k magicka pool. Pirate king is interesting, I got the shoulders finally today in divines, just not sure what sort of setup will fit with what I'm wanting to do with it.

I'm playing around with 5 Necro 2 pirate king 4 seducer, as long as you keep siphoning attacks up you have enough sustain, you just have to make sure you time your healing between procs, but since you've got a 12k dampen shield with 30% mitigation its not too much of a problem. It feels nearly broken in duels and its a game changer for open world.

Junipus · November 2016

altemriel wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

Unless they changed it from last time I used it, you only need to cast shades once but you then need to switch the bar to get the buff so always put the shade on your off bar (for magblade at least).

Hopefully they fixed it so it procs as soon as the shade is cast, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

it does proc right when you cast it, I tested it out yesterday

That's good to know. Still don't regret deconning my gold divines set though. Too much hassle in trials and not that useful in divines for PvP.

Amorpho · November 2016

I have a fully levelled magblade and I hate it with a passion. I hate its playstyle and its squishiness. I tried all sorts of set-ups but I just can't seem to make it work. The other three chars (see below) I love them to bits!

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

Amorpho wrote: »

I have a fully levelled magblade and I hate it with a passion. I hate its playstyle and its squishiness. I tried all sorts of set-ups but I just can't seem to make it work. The other three chars (see below) I love them to bits!

How often do you use mirage? Have you tried going 5pc HA?

Koolio · November 2016

Jsmalls wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Elegant jewelry 2pc body. Alchemist 4 body and resto. 1 kena Maelstrom Destro. 11-20k plus heavy attacks into Soul assault. Good Night.

@Koolio

Tip for your build, drop the Maelstrom destro and replace it with an elegant inferno staff, then add a max Magicka monster piece into your body slots in place of that elegant piece.

What this will do is give you larger bursts with the 350 spell damage enchant over the consistent 190 spell damage from Maelstrom destro. It also gives you an 1500 Magicka (after passives) which equates to an extra 150 spell damage. So for your bursts you'll be hitting with an extra 310 spell damage worth of extra damage. (Personally I would swap the kena for a different Max Magicka piece as well, means bigger shields and the damage due to night blade max magicka passives is negligible and you get that much bigger shields)

Just don't want to drop the 500k for the staff(been farming with no luck). But o was thinking with continuous attack buffing spell damage I figured I can get it higher by keeping this buff. The spell damage enchant is on my resto so I weave it in before merciless resolve Procs. I also only gank with this build so max magic for shields is of little concern to me. I only use this character when I have 1-2 friends on and are wanting to Gank. But might just have to test this and see the difference. Thank you for the advice though. Can never have too much.

Master_Kas · November 2016

Atm using 5x spinner, 2x groth, 5x vd (sometimes I swap out the vd jewerly for willpower)

DW + destro to kill as much as possible before going down.

Magblade feels pretty meh, you're either a kamikazee bomber, a weaker sorc (if you go destro/resto) or a weak stamblade (mag melee , dw resto).

WTB Magicka melee nb from 1.5 or before

PS4_ZeColmeia · November 2016

Can anyone give a necro ss on character sheet? I would like to compare stats. FYI, nothing is gold in my setup, fully buffed and I still need divine shoulders.

Amorpho · November 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

I have a fully levelled magblade and I hate it with a passion. I hate its playstyle and its squishiness. I tried all sorts of set-ups but I just can't seem to make it work. The other three chars (see below) I love them to bits!

How often do you use mirage? Have you tried going 5pc HA?

It's permanently on, but unless I use shields I am still too squishy. However, using Dampen Magic is only effective if I boost my Magicka pool with Necropotence, giving up on other sets. I don't know, I can't seem to make it work...

thankyourat · November 2016

I usually play destro with 5 seducer 5 necroprentence 1 Max magic monster helm, but right now I'm playing melee and having alot of fun. I'm using 5 Julianos 5 lich 3 willpower. I use to run this back in thieves guild it was alot stronger then, but it still works now. I want to run 5 spinners, 5 necro, and 2 groth, and try a melee build with that but I can't find sharpened spinner swords

Lexxypwns · November 2016

Junipus wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

Unless they changed it from last time I used it, you only need to cast shades once but you then need to switch the bar to get the buff so always put the shade on your off bar (for magblade at least).

Hopefully they fixed it so it procs as soon as the shade is cast, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

it does proc right when you cast it, I tested it out yesterday

That's good to know. Still don't regret deconning my gold divines set though. Too much hassle in trials and not that useful in divines for PvP.

its bad for trails because the shades absorb group buffs

Master_Kas wrote: »

Atm using 5x spinner, 2x groth, 5x vd (sometimes I swap out the vd jewerly for willpower)

DW + destro to kill as much as possible before going down.

Magblade feels pretty meh, you're either a kamikazee bomber, a weaker sorc (if you go destro/resto) or a weak stamblade (mag melee , dw resto).

WTB Magicka melee nb from 1.5 or before

Nah, magblade > sorc by far. You have ranged snares and roots, a cheaper spammable that heals you, allowing you to cast dampen and go offensive to refill your health. You have cloak to relive pressure and help protect your healing ward, shades as a superior positioning tool to streak, better aoe CC, and you can guarantee your high burst skill procs when you want it to, your burst isn't purgable, magika based dodge chance, better sustain, minor berserk, etc.

The only advantage sorc has really is mines, but these days most people know how to counter them.

edit: Its also worth noting that mageblade is able to run blue health/mag food for pvp and not have to worry about dying to 3 CCs because siphoning attacks handles your stamina.

WildWilbur · November 2016

5 x Elegant, 5 x Transmutation, 1 Kena

Playstyle: Ganking... Yeah, i know. But I'm to lazy to farm proc sets or respecc to stam.

thankyourat · November 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Don't you have you technically have to cast pets 2x to get the set buff and then to get pets that are buffed by it?

Unless they changed it from last time I used it, you only need to cast shades once but you then need to switch the bar to get the buff so always put the shade on your off bar (for magblade at least).

Hopefully they fixed it so it procs as soon as the shade is cast, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

it does proc right when you cast it, I tested it out yesterday

That's good to know. Still don't regret deconning my gold divines set though. Too much hassle in trials and not that useful in divines for PvP.

its bad for trails because the shades absorb group buffs

Master_Kas wrote: »

Atm using 5x spinner, 2x groth, 5x vd (sometimes I swap out the vd jewerly for willpower)

DW + destro to kill as much as possible before going down.

Magblade feels pretty meh, you're either a kamikazee bomber, a weaker sorc (if you go destro/resto) or a weak stamblade (mag melee , dw resto).

WTB Magicka melee nb from 1.5 or before

Nah, magblade > sorc by far. You have ranged snares and roots, a cheaper spammable that heals you, allowing you to cast dampen and go offensive to refill your health. You have cloak to relive pressure and help protect your healing ward, shades as a superior positioning tool to streak, better aoe CC, and you can guarantee your high burst skill procs when you want it to, your burst isn't purgable, magika based dodge chance, better sustain, minor berserk, etc.

The only advantage sorc has really is mines, but these days most people know how to counter them.

edit: Its also worth noting that mageblade is able to run blue health/mag food for pvp and not have to worry about dying to 3 CCs because siphoning attacks handles your stamina.

Is that for pve cause swallow soul heals you for only like 1000hp over a period of time max. I think sorc is better too only because it has an anti melee kit with mines and streak and it's alot more bursty. And all of it's abilities work as intended where as magblade is just buggy. Agony is also pure garbage because it breaks on dot ticks. Magblade isn't far off from sorc, they are pretty close but sorc with better defenses and better offense. shield stacking is still as op as it's ever been. Shade is nice to get distance but it's only better than streak if you are fighting in a place with a lot of elevation. And if someone gap closes you they follow you to your shade either that or you just won't teleport at all. It's 50/50 lol